From unknown Mon Aug 18 02:07:56 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4089 <4089@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4089 <4089@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1.50; Emacs Manual Node Persistency Issues Reply-To: bug#4089 <4089@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:07:56 +0000 retitle 4089 23.1.50; Emacs Manual Node Persistency Issues reassign 4089 emacs submitter 4089 "Xah Lee" severity 4089 wishlist tag 4089 wontfix thanks From xah@xahlee.org Sat Aug 8 16:56:57 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Aug 2009 23:56:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8, STOX_REPLY_TYPE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n78Nutqw004844 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:56:56 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:38070 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MZvmR-0005hq-BB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:56:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MZvmN-0001nv-Nk for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:56:55 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:52013) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MZvmN-0001nj-EM for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:56:51 -0400 Received: from xahPC (c-76-102-12-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.12.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1MZvmL1y3D-0001O7; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:56:50 -0400 Message-ID: <70FDFC6E06E343C78C8A3B635E0CB868@xahPC> From: "Xah Lee" To: Subject: 23.1.50; Emacs Manual Node Persistency Issues Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:56:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3VQq2AEus+f87PCD1yTO/xt9Tdp0FIH9CgKP IfCnTyKc7dYrQQ19bA2kqM0jBKNWbuPrIxJI/eEllHzHcNk76u b03dCHBtYkB5IF22+hTJw== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. some issues with emacs manual persistency. Info Node Persistency ... In emacs 22, there's this node: (info "(emacs)Transient Mark") but it does not exit in emacs 23's manual. Shouldn't the manual nodes be persistant across versions, e.g. providing redirect when node changed? As a pratical matter, this means now i have to search my emacs publications to fix the nodes. A task that's not particularly trivial. This applies to any publication on emacs that reference to the manual by node. This is a problem with Python's documentation too. thinking about this, actually i don't know if there are any manual that: * (1) Provide a computable reference to the chapter/sections. * (2) Maintain this on different versions of the manual. However, since emacs does (1) already, it's easy to do (2) too. ------------------ GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched) Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 14 21:34:16 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2010 02:34:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVc0u-0002Nz-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:34:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVc0s-0002Nt-9H for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:34:14 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVc0o-0003pu-Q3; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:34:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19279.54306.760765.98090@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:34:10 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: red X-Ran: :m~t}wvg-c(~($msYvZ|;v.!JomO'3d}hwb{k1S4tPrXRnrVb!DCq)dD@=s-a^i3cq17iH X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) tags 3642 moreinfo unreproducible severity 3699 minor severity 3870 minor severity 4438 minor severity 4952 minor severity 5154 minor close 5215 severity 5239 wishlist close 5318 severity 5360 wishlist severity 5362 minor tags 4974 moreinfo unreproducible severity 4408 wishlist severity 4089 wishlist tags 4089 wontfix reassign 4044 emacs,ns merge 2280 5252 tags 5374 moreinfo reassign 4828 emacs,cc-mode tags 4828 patch reassign 5001 emacs,erc close 5371 reassign 4517 emacs,ns severity 3230 minor close 4930 close 5249 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 21 21:32:35 2012 Received: (at 4089-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2012 02:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S020R-0000eK-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:32:35 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55605 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S020P-0000eC-Bk for 4089-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:32:33 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S01y8-0006bZ-Pa; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:30:12 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 4089-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4089: 23.1.50; Emacs Manual Node Persistency Issues References: <70FDFC6E06E343C78C8A3B635E0CB868@xahPC> X-Spook: codes SEAL Team 6 target Sundevil S Key unclassified X-Ran: #E!iwjaY>6aE#t}@"+m'p-%JJMm?[KmZQqZ'j~y2+PQj%f"b(rN/.(XMw]mV^e_4}J#eg9 X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:30:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <70FDFC6E06E343C78C8A3B635E0CB868@xahPC> (Xah Lee's message of "Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:56:47 -0700") Message-ID: <4qk43feh1n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4089-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) I don't see any prospect of this being implemented. 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