From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:27:57 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#40793 <40793@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#40793 <40793@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Documentation suggestion Reply-To: bug#40793 <40793@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:27:57 +0000 retitle 40793 Documentation suggestion reassign 40793 libtool submitter 40793 Reuben Thomas severity 40793 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 23 08:15:51 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2020 12:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRalj-0001qL-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:15:51 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40025) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRale-0001qA-1g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:15:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRald-0007Rz-G9 for bug-libtool@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:15:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRalc-0006qJ-3h for bug-libtool@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:15:45 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-x341.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::341]:36291) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRalb-0006ik-94 for bug-libtool@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:15:43 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-x341.google.com with SMTP id b13so5619952oti.3 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gu2RGMSPZvu3XvJhjhYVtvJIIcV6opyWVNgzcfqGrPs=; b=Aje61sbAPuBaKWcVCe17YP53ev3yJq+a555aWs85Jn9VANvETGBSbuaphjmfaduoF0 NLOEZ7gHpxJsup5KJUcdmSE9DIQbt36piHobTyu/teMz2y0JP/Tq3EHElGis3zwV2GUo zVzpKDq95TGS8UdgoMHEtJJ87TOn7biQylBOQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gu2RGMSPZvu3XvJhjhYVtvJIIcV6opyWVNgzcfqGrPs=; b=jsDWYRZ1fRCpNmULluWj5LVa0LzeEmUuDqZuJIedvVEeAmxKyoQO8M0I3bMiEbRZS9 7rsb2aScGNR2x+B2ixFRQSHF8vHi0comxxVH0OILTU4Uf44aQJZAuJWQHgxNiwyD4RZq APdx8yxHvMGNML/UIPc6TqP2R3QLX8aq/Qrn9uIthC5FvN/uTWwbG/1cyuFbMtCGLBI+ C4f2gU0Sjz0GuQViFptQIA7zH6efbCmf5kQs/PHJS8touZTiTOddHsrOnbmVVhBudvzF Kqup/z/cgRIdIXKnv1pl5V+FHNaSKmxjMmotTLBSX1GHkZy7njFOj+YNzyIxGocTUaHo 1buw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaOuU5T0J1SK4DAHbkWW8j4Vu9hS/S4ACzwYA7bwOf81AcmGBOQ DMHXnSYviJpjMiOfobgSQ730vgZ1CFpA2ToTAn+ZwOTiALofNA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK+tG/uSgp0+yuxzq/S1WGMex9DbcyvQOOHKMqJN+0lgajRaAFDhdzgqD0j3ogQypdYO3m0GxwcDLWSVhNVR5o= X-Received: by 2002:a54:4708:: with SMTP id k8mr629384oik.62.1587644141242; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:15:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Reuben Thomas Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Documentation suggestion To: bug-libtool@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000011fa0705a3f43586" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::341; envelope-from=rrt@sc3d.org; helo=mail-ot1-x341.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::341 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --00000000000011fa0705a3f43586 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" libtool.texi contains the following: "It was reported that GNU/Linux's glibc 2.0's 'dlopen' with 'RTLD_LAZY' (that libltdl uses by default) is not thread-safe, but this problem is supposed to be fixed in glibc 2.1. On the other hand, 'RTLD_NOW' was reported to introduce problems in multi-threaded applications on FreeBSD." I suggest removing this material: glibc 2.1 was released over 20 years ago. I have looked through both the glibc changelogs and git history to try to ascertain whether in fact this bug was mentioned as being fixed, but I can find nothing relevant. The same applies to the FreeBSD case. Evidence on the positive side is that dlopen(3) states explicitly that the function is thread safe, and POSIX defines it as such. Therefore it might be reasonable to state that modern dlopen implementations should be threads safe. Or it might not. (Does someone know more about this?) In the latter case, the rest of the paragraph could be left as-is, which is to say, reasonably conservative. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --00000000000011fa0705a3f43586 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
libtool.texi contains the following:

"It was reported th= at GNU/Linux's glibc 2.0's 'dlopen' with 'RTLD_LAZY'= ; (that libltdl uses by default) is not thread-safe, but this problem is su= pposed to be fixed in glibc 2.1.=C2=A0 On the other hand, 'RTLD_NOW'= ; was reported to introduce problems in multi-threaded applications on Free= BSD."

I suggest removing t= his material: glibc 2.1 was released over 20 years ago. I have looked throu= gh both the glibc changelogs and git history to try to ascertain whether in= fact this bug was mentioned as being fixed, but I can find nothing relevan= t. The same applies to the FreeBSD case.

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Evidence on the positive side is that dlopen(3) states e= xplicitly that the function is thread safe, and POSIX defines it as such. T= herefore it might be reasonable to state that modern dlopen implementations= should be threads safe. Or it might not. (Does someone know more about thi= s?) In the latter case, the rest of the paragraph could be left as-is, whic= h is to say, reasonably conservative.

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