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The help text for M-! says
"With prefix argument, insert the COMMAND=E2=80=99s output at point."
However, in Emacs 27 this is no longer the case if
`shell-command-dont-erase-buffer' is `beg-last-out'.
Run
emacs -Q -eval "(setq shell-command-dont-erase-buffer 'beg-last-out)"
Hit M-< to go to the beginning of the scratch buffer. Execute
C-u M-! echo hi RET
or any other command producing output. In Emacs 26.3, the output is
inserted at point, but in Emacs 27, it's inserted at the end of the
buffer.
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> From: Philipp Stephani
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 00:05:43 +0200
>
> The help text for M-! says
>
> "With prefix argument, insert the COMMAND’s output at point."
>
> However, in Emacs 27 this is no longer the case if
> `shell-command-dont-erase-buffer' is `beg-last-out'.
>
> Run
>
> emacs -Q -eval "(setq shell-command-dont-erase-buffer 'beg-last-out)"
>
> Hit M-< to go to the beginning of the scratch buffer. Execute
>
> C-u M-! echo hi RET
>
> or any other command producing output. In Emacs 26.3, the output is
> inserted at point, but in Emacs 27, it's inserted at the end of the
> buffer.
Thanks, I hope I fixed this now on the emacs-27 branch.
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Am Sa., 18. Apr. 2020 um 11:02 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii :
>
> > From: Philipp Stephani
> > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 00:05:43 +0200
> >
> > The help text for M-! says
> >
> > "With prefix argument, insert the COMMAND=E2=80=99s output at point."
> >
> > However, in Emacs 27 this is no longer the case if
> > `shell-command-dont-erase-buffer' is `beg-last-out'.
> >
> > Run
> >
> > emacs -Q -eval "(setq shell-command-dont-erase-buffer 'beg-last-out)"
> >
> > Hit M-< to go to the beginning of the scratch buffer. Execute
> >
> > C-u M-! echo hi RET
> >
> > or any other command producing output. In Emacs 26.3, the output is
> > inserted at point, but in Emacs 27, it's inserted at the end of the
> > buffer.
>
> Thanks, I hope I fixed this now on the emacs-27 branch.
Confirmed, thanks.
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From: Philipp Stephani
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Subject: 27.0.91; C-u M-! no longer inserts output at point
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 00:05:43 +0200
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Content preview: The help text for M-! says "With prefix argument, insert the
COMMAND’s output at point." However, in Emacs 27 this is no longer the
case if `shell-command-dont-erase-buffer' is `beg-last-out'.
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The help text for M-! says
"With prefix argument, insert the COMMAND=E2=80=99s output at point."
However, in Emacs 27 this is no longer the case if
`shell-command-dont-erase-buffer' is `beg-last-out'.
Run
emacs -Q -eval "(setq shell-command-dont-erase-buffer 'beg-last-out)"
Hit M-< to go to the beginning of the scratch buffer. Execute
C-u M-! echo hi RET
or any other command producing output. In Emacs 26.3, the output is
inserted at point, but in Emacs 27, it's inserted at the end of the
buffer.
In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.13)
of 2020-04-17
Repository revision: 6b297519b580df27d8721943f55629689b4c83e0
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