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Content preview: pkill9 writes: > It instead seems to use Alsa directly, because when I then run > Pulseaudio, it just creates a 'dummy output'. This is annoying with the > default Pulseaudio behaviour of exiting after 20 seconds of [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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This is annoying with the > default Pulseaudio behaviour of exiting after 20 seconds of idling. I wonder if that could explain why my mic input is always reset back to the front port, even though I almost visit alsamixer daily to set it back to the rear port. 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[66.158.155.162]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w27sm8343517qtv.68.2020.08.13.20.00.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com X-Google-Original-From: maxim@hurd.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me To: pkill9 Subject: Re: bug#40675: Chromium doesn't start pulseaudio if pulseaudio isn't running References: <20200417001429.09fb8ba1@runbox.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 23:00:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200417001429.09fb8ba1@runbox.com> (pkill9@runbox.com's message of "Fri, 17 Apr 2020 00:14:29 +0100") Message-ID: <87sgcqszh9.fsf@hurd.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40675 Cc: 40675@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, pkill9 writes: > It instead seems to use Alsa directly, because when I then run > Pulseaudio, it just creates a 'dummy output'. This is annoying with the > default Pulseaudio behaviour of exiting after 20 seconds of idling. I did some more tests and it seem to work fine here. Perhaps you were bitten by this bug [0], where a dead pulseaudio connection will not be restarted. If you start Chromium without any pulseaudio server running, it will cause it to auto spawn when it requires sound access. Perhaps you can share the exacts step you use to reproduce this? Perhaps some interaction with other sound applications is required for the problem to manifest itself? Thanks! Maxim [0] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=968540&q=microphone%20pulseaudio&can=1