GNU bug report logs - #4043
23.1; thanks for emacs 23!

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>
Subject: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:22:42 -0700

not sure what's the best channel to say this, but i just compiled  
emacs 23 on my mac nari-a-hitch! Just wanted to say thanks to all the  
emacs developers. Thank you!

this is on a iMac (1.9 Ghz PowerPC G5; the last G5 model), running OS  
X 10.4.11.

GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-appkit-824.48)  
of 2009-08-04 on xahg5.local

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

Message #10 received at 4043 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>, 4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, xah <at> xahlee.org
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:15:25 -0400

You could really thank us
by switching from non-free MacOS to a free operating system
such as GNU/Linux or BSD.

Message #20 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: "Xah Lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>
To: <rms <at> gnu.org>, <4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:11:09 -0700

How about improving emacs? Because when you improve software of your 
philosophy, then automatically more people will use it.

I would like to see this area improved:

• Emacs's Menu Usability Problem
 http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html

Thank you.

 Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Stallman" <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: "xah lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>; <4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>; <xah <at> xahlee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!


> You could really thank us
> by switching from non-free MacOS to a free operating system
> such as GNU/Linux or BSD. 

Message #30 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: "Xah Lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>
To: "Xah Lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>, <rms <at> gnu.org>,
        <4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:28:10 -0700

Correction:

Xah wrote:
> I would like to see this area improved:

Should be:
> I think this area is good candidate for improvement:

Thanks.

Xah

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Xah Lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>
To: <rms <at> gnu.org>; <4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!


> How about improving emacs? Because when you improve software of your 
> philosophy, then automatically more people will use it.
>
> I would like to see this area improved:
>
> • Emacs's Menu Usability Problem
>  http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html
>
> Thank you.
>
>  Xah
> ∑ http://xahlee.org/
>
> ☄
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Stallman" <rms <at> gnu.org>
> To: "xah lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>; <4043 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
> Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>; <xah <at> xahlee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
>
>
>> You could really thank us
>> by switching from non-free MacOS to a free operating system
>> such as GNU/Linux or BSD.
> 

Message #40 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: "Xah Lee" <xah <at> xahlee.org>
Cc: 4043 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:29:18 -0400

    How about improving emacs?

The person who wrote to thank us for Emacs 23 already likes Emacs.
But he is running it on an operating system, MacOS, which does not
respect his freedom.  I suppose he does not recognize the problem in
this.

We do hope to improve Emacs, but improving Emacs will not
teach people to recognize and reject the evil in MacOS.
That is a separate job, and we need to do them both.

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