From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:41:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4036 <4036@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4036 <4036@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1; I can not understand a sentence. Reply-To: bug#4036 <4036@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 08:41:15 +0000 retitle 4036 23.1; I can not understand a sentence. reassign 4036 emacs submitter 4036 waterloo severity 4036 normal thanks From waterloo2005@gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:10:19 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Aug 2009 19:10:19 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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From: waterloo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14fcefb6871047055a169 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) --000e0cd14fcefb6871047055a169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In 2.3.3.1 Basic Char Syntax of Emacs Lisp Reference, I can not understant the last sentence in parenthesis. `\ ' is equal `space'. Why need an extra space after `\ ' to seperate it from the following text. Thanks If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file /usr/share/emacs/23.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.1) of 2009-07-31 on laptop Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10503000 configured using `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu' '--host=i686-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--program-suffix=-emacs-23' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-23' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xpm' '--with-xft' '--without-libotf' '--without-m17n-flt' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--without-hesiod' '--without-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '--with-dbus' 'build_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -pipe' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_CTYPE: zh_CN.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_MONETARY: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=SCIM locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: TeX-source-specials-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t yas/minor-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: l l C-x C-e C-x 2 C-g ? . C-x C-e \ C-x C-e C-x C-e C-x 1 Recent messages: byte-code: End of buffer [2 times] bunzip2ing elisp-5.info.bz2...done byte-code: End of buffer [3 times] bunzip2ing elisp-1.info.bz2...done bunzip2ing elisp-5.info.bz2...done bunzip2ing elisp-1.info.bz2...done byte-code: End of buffer 81 46 preceding-sexp: End of file during parsing 46 --000e0cd14fcefb6871047055a169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In 2.3.3.1 Basic Char Syntax of Emacs Lisp Reference, I can not
understa= nt the last sentence in parenthesis.

`\ ' is equal `space'.= Why need an extra space after `\ ' to seperate
it from the followin= g text.

Thanks


If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in t= he gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb comman= ds:
=A0=A0=A0 `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like t= o further debug the crash, please read the file
/usr/share/emacs/23.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 2= 3.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.1)
=A0of 2009-07-31 on lapto= p
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.= 10503000
configured using `configure=A0 '--prefix=3D/usr' '--build=3Di68= 6-pc-linux-gnu' '--host=3Di686-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=3D/u= sr/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/u= sr/share' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--localstatedir=3D/var/lib= ' '--program-suffix=3D-emacs-23' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/in= fo/emacs-23' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-t= oolkit-scroll-bars' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--w= ith-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xpm= 9; '--with-xft' '--without-libotf' '--without-m17n-flt&= #39; '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' '--without-hesiod' '--wit= hout-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '= --with-dbus' 'build_alias=3Di686-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias= =3Di686-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -march=3Dpentium-m -pipe' &= #39;LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1''

Important settings:
=A0 value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0 value of $LC_CO= LLATE: en_US.UTF-8
=A0 value of $LC_CTYPE: zh_CN.UTF-8
=A0 value of $= LC_MESSAGES: en_US.UTF-8
=A0 value of $LC_MONETARY: en_US.UTF-8
=A0 v= alue of $LC_NUMERIC: en_US.UTF-8
=A0 value of $LC_TIME: en_US.UTF-8
=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
= =A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3DSCIM
=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-uni= x
=A0 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Info
=
Minor modes in effect:
=A0 TeX-source-specials-mode: t
=A0 show-paren-mode: t
=A0 display-ti= me-mode: t
=A0 global-auto-complete-mode: t
=A0 desktop-save-mode: t<= br>=A0 yas/minor-mode: t
=A0 auto-image-file-mode: t
=A0 shell-dirtra= ck-mode: t
=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t
=A0 menu-bar-mode: t
= =A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0 font-lo= ck-mode: t
=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=A0 global-auto-composition-mode:= t
=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t
=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=A0 column-n= umber-mode: t
=A0 line-number-mode: t
=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
= =A0 abbrev-mode: t

Recent input:
<help-echo> <down-mouse= -1> <mouse-2> <down-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <down-mouse-1> &= lt;mouse-movement>
<mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <d= own-mouse-1> <mouse-1>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <= ;help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
<help-echo> <mouse-1> <help-echo> <help-echo> <d= own-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <double-down-mouse-5> <double-= mouse-5> <down-mouse-4>
<mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-= 4> <double-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= br><help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-= 1>
<double-down-mouse-1> <double-mouse-1> <help-echo&= gt;
<help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> &l= t;down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <double-down-mouse-1> <doub= le-mouse-1> <down-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <help-echo> &= lt;down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-2> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> &= lt;double-down-mouse-5>
<double-mouse-5> <triple-down-mouse= -5> <triple-mouse-5>
<triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mo= use-5> <triple-down-mouse-5>
<triple-mouse-5> <triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5> <= br><down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <dou= ble-mouse-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= triple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= br><triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse= -4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mo= use-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4&= gt;
<triple-mouse-4> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help= -echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <hel= p-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mous= e-4>
<double-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-m= ouse-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <down-= mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <double-down-mouse-5> <double-mouse-5> <trip= le-down-mouse-5>
<triple-mouse-5> <triple-down-mouse-5> = <triple-mouse-5>
<triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5&g= t; <triple-down-mouse-5>
<triple-mouse-5> <triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5> <= br><down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <dou= ble-mouse-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= triple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= br><triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse= -4>
<triple-mouse-4> <help-echo> <help-echo> <h= elp-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> l &= lt;down-mouse-4>
<mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <dou= ble-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <= down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-2> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> &= lt;double-down-mouse-5>
<double-mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> = <mouse-5> <double-down-mouse-5>
<double-mouse-5> <= triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5>
<triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <double-mouse-4> <tri= ple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4>= <triple-mouse-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4&= gt;
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse= -4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <help-echo= >
<help-echo> <help-echo> l <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>= ;
<help-echo> <mouse-movement> <mouse-1> <down-mou= se-1>
<mouse-2> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <doubl= e-down-mouse-5>
<double-mouse-5> <triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5> <= br><down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <double-down-mouse-5> <dou= ble-mouse-5>
<triple-down-mouse-5> <triple-mouse-5> <= triple-down-mouse-5>
<triple-mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down= -mouse-4>
<double-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <tri= ple-mouse-4>
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= triple-down-mouse-4>
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <= br><triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse= -4>
<triple-mouse-4> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> &l= t;mouse-1>
<double-down-mouse-1> <double-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> C-x C-e <down-mous= e-1>
<mouse-1> <help-echo> <help-echo> C-x <hel= p-echo> 2
<help-echo> <menu-bar> <buffer> C-g ? . C-x C-e <left&= gt;
\ C-x C-e <right> C-x C-e <help-echo> <down-mouse-1&= gt;
<mouse-1> C-x 1 <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <help= -echo>
<help-echo> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5>=
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5&= gt; <mouse-5>
<down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse= -4> <mouse-4> <help-echo>
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<mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4>= ; <help-echo> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-5> <mouse-5&= gt; <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <= ;help-echo>
<menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-re= port>

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--000e0cd14fcefb6871047055a169-- From cyd@stupidchicken.com Sun Aug 9 16:28:39 2009 Received: (at 4036-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2009 23:28:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n79NSbHP031559 for <4036-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:28:39 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D167A57E21E; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:29:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: waterloo Cc: 4036-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.1; I can not understand a sentence. Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: <87vdkwbm79.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > In 2.3.3.1 Basic Char Syntax of Emacs Lisp Reference, I can not > understant the last sentence in parenthesis. > > `\ ' is equal `space'. Why need an extra space after `\ ' to seperate > it from the following text. Because spaces are also used to separate Lisp objects. For such questions, please send email to help-gnu-emacs rather than bug-gnu-emacs in the future. Thanks: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:41:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:24:12 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator