From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 31 03:09:32 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2020 07:09:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJB1g-0008AV-Ir for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 03:09:32 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52499) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJB1e-0008AN-3L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJB1a-0003it-6B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 03:09:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJB1Z-0007pS-Va for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; 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filename=0001-doc-lispref-os.texi-Session-Management-make-example-.patch Content-Description: make example homoiconic >From 5a707993cdee582dcbc423f990205798ae3c421e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Bruno=20F=C3=A9lix=20Rezende=20Ribeiro?= Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 03:55:35 -0300 Subject: [PATCH] * doc/lispref/os.texi (Session Management): make example homoiconic --- doc/lispref/os.texi | 8 ++++---- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi index e72858b..680d327 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi @@ -2675,10 +2675,10 @@ Emacs is restarted by the session manager. @group (defun save-yourself-test () - (insert "(save-current-buffer - (switch-to-buffer \"*scratch*\") - (insert \"I am restored\"))") - nil) + (insert (format "%S" '(save-current-buffer + (switch-to-buffer "*scratch*") + (insert "I am restored")))) + nil) @end group @end example -- 2.7.4 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=20 Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) [0x28D618AF] --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 14 09:53:08 2020 Received: (at 40341) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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[99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm7706298qts.70.2020.04.14.06.52.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Apr 2020 06:52:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: oitofelix@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#40341: [PATCH] * doc/lispref/os.texi (Session Management): make example homoiconic References: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:52:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> (oitofelix@gnu.org's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:09:22 -0300") Message-ID: <85eesqyy13.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40341 Cc: 40341@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) severity 40341 minor quit oitofelix@gnu.org writes: > --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi > +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi > @@ -2675,10 +2675,10 @@ Emacs is restarted by the session manager. > > @group > (defun save-yourself-test () > - (insert "(save-current-buffer > - (switch-to-buffer \"*scratch*\") > - (insert \"I am restored\"))") > - nil) > + (insert (format "%S" '(save-current-buffer > + (switch-to-buffer "*scratch*") > + (insert "I am restored")))) > + nil) Shouldn't this example also be using set-buffer instead of switch-to-buffer? (Or rather, with-current-buffer instead of save-current-buffer + switch-to-buffer.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 14 13:54:58 2020 Received: (at 40341) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2020 17:54:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jOPly-0007PB-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:54:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jOPlv-0007Ow-RA for 40341@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:54:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOPlq-0003e8-LX; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:54:50 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3959 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jOPlo-0003y4-Fh; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:54:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:54:30 +0300 Message-Id: <83sgh6gdgp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-Reply-To: <85eesqyy13.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:52:56 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#40341: [PATCH] * doc/lispref/os.texi (Session Management): make example homoiconic References: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> <85eesqyy13.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40341 Cc: oitofelix@gnu.org, 40341@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:52:56 -0400 > Cc: 40341@debbugs.gnu.org > > > + (insert (format "%S" '(save-current-buffer > > + (switch-to-buffer "*scratch*") > > + (insert "I am restored")))) > > + nil) > > Shouldn't this example also be using set-buffer instead of > switch-to-buffer? (Or rather, with-current-buffer instead of > save-current-buffer + switch-to-buffer.) It wouldn't hurt to put our money where our mouth is, I agree. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 08 09:14:38 2020 Received: (at 40341) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2020 13:14:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58503 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4OgI-0007Zo-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 09:14:38 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4OgG-0007Zb-Mh for 40341@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 09:14:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=bEBR2Up5c8EADKTejyALLV/GSKWF7eTgaipo07oBys8=; b=PTyun9Z612tfauGJs8UvgeFr8M pK0Av2WrJxF1OifPahBuUBkEcyLpEfD0HwnxJfeteDKtuhSESHurW9Bhfyu0zmssoU2Jk1gsFtwrO e7KbjELUQnGPxsH+bDA1H7cRNU3KMbbPHTU8mxD+SfOoygOWT7SOBqqSbin6Juy9ccUs=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k4Og8-0004gU-C7; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:14:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: oitofelix@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#40341: [PATCH] * doc/lispref/os.texi (Session Management): make example homoiconic References: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:14:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> (oitofelix@gnu.org's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:09:22 -0300") Message-ID: <87y2mpz3d9.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: oitofelix@gnu.org writes: > I think hardcoded strings with Lisp code in Lisp code is a bad practice, > given that Lisp’s main distinguishing feature is its homocoinicity. In > my opinion the Lisp reference manual should enco [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40341 Cc: 40341@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) oitofelix@gnu.org writes: > I think hardcoded strings with Lisp code in Lisp code is a bad practice, > given that Lisp=E2=80=99s main distinguishing feature is its homocoinicit= y. In > my opinion the Lisp reference manual should encouraged homoiconic > programming --- or, at least, not to promote the contrary. [...] > @group > (defun save-yourself-test () > - (insert "(save-current-buffer > - (switch-to-buffer \"*scratch*\") > - (insert \"I am restored\"))") > - nil) > + (insert (format "%S" '(save-current-buffer > + (switch-to-buffer "*scratch*") > + (insert "I am restored")))) > + nil) Thanks; applied to Emacs 28.1. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 08 09:14:53 2020 Received: (at 40341) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2020 13:14:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58508 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4OgX-0007aK-M0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 09:14:53 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51616) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4OgW-0007a5-Bo for 40341@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 09:14:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T7dX2vFZiIEayFP82N81rosKtP3H7obOJmVRLu6pgow=; b=srBOY/YKPuPgziIrqQ3Rm1XFeD BeNT2ObSuobaBO3LrwiqKh7KU/lojmGLhepYc/n9/QcTNMhCucMi7zWt/jcQ9gE+7/EiPtGPqiSUz L6L6v/Ge9XIRm+YUQ+RybV7ykzrOei9clIRW21DeL841TnhDMeHtZ7mGiYd8NvR5ZkiY=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k4OgN-0004gb-UO; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:14:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#40341: [PATCH] * doc/lispref/os.texi (Session Management): make example homoiconic References: <87mu7xc865.fsf@oitofelix.com> <85eesqyy13.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:14:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <85eesqyy13.fsf@gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:52:56 -0400") Message-ID: <87tuxdz3ct.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Noam Postavsky writes: > Shouldn't this example also be using set-buffer instead of > switch-to-buffer? (Or rather, with-current-buffer instead of > save-current-buffer + switch-to-buffer.) 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