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Pierre Neidhardt writes: > * gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl: Adjust root file-system to use Btrfs. > --- > gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl | 3 ++- > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/gnu/syste [...] Content analysis details: (1.4 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.4 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Pierre Neidhardt writes: > * gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl: Adjust root file-system to use Btrfs. > --- > gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl | 3 ++- > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl b/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl > index 3931bad60d..e61e8064cd 100644 > --- a/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl > +++ b/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl > @@ -34,7 +34,8 @@ > (list (file-system > (device (file-system-label "my-root")) > (mount-point "/") > - (type "ext4") > + (type "btrfs") > + (options "subvol=rootfs,compress=zstd") > (dependencies mapped-devices)) > (file-system > (device (uuid "1234-ABCD" 'fat)) I think Btrfs with compression is a fine, modern default of a file system, but we shall get a good samples of opinions (I expect a variety of them :-)) and common agreement before pushing this change. For those wondering about the benefits of having the root file system on a subvolume (named 'rootfs' in the proposed configuration), the following page [0] explains it as: [...] The above layout, which obviously serves as the system's "main" filesystem, places data directly within the top-level subvolume (namely everything for example /usr, that's not in a child subvolume) This makes changing the structure (for example to something more flat) more difficult, which is why it's generally suggested to place the actual data in a subvolume (that is not the top-level subvolume), in the above example, a better layout would be the following: toplevel (volume root directory, not mounted) \-- root (subvolume root directory, to be mounted at /) +-- home (subvolume root directory) +-- var (subvolume root directory) +-- www (subvolume root directory) +-- lib (directory) \-- postgresql (subvolume root directory) In short, it allows exposing just the subvolumes which should be visible, instead of everything. I've marked this blocked by 37305, which includes GRUB support for booting from a subvolume as well as documentation about Btrfs usage in Guix. [0] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SysadminGuide#Layout From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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I would oppose this change as I had too much troubles with Btrfs on my openSUSE machines. I used a simple partition layout spanning the whole disk. AFAIK this is not really recommended with btrfs. My laptop was from time to time unusable until I reinstalled it with ext4... Further do we need all this rollback stuff from btrfs if we have it already in Guix? From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158566645024926 (code B ref 40236); Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2020 14:54:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIHK-0006Ty-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:54:10 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:39725) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJIHI-0006TQ-3J for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:54:09 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E19E260002; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:54:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:53:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> (list (file-system >> (device (file-system-label "my-root")) >> (mount-point "/") >> - (type "ext4") >> + (type "btrfs") >> + (options "subvol=rootfs, compress=zstd") Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [217.70.183.195 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Content preview: Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> (list (file-system >> (device (file-system-label "my-root")) >> (mount-point "/") >> - (type "ext4") >> + (type "btrfs") >> + (options "subvol=rootfs,compress=zstd") Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Is it supported nonetheless in your patch? Is it supported in current Guix? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6DWYcACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH+L3wf/TfmDXShfWADKzcTk4o0YrQkVam5So3vgiAxciCEP1/vybnEB4qW8W3Wg XQxQikkpHkMBoagru/gg+06piUSzKPWkiqptmpTPef653nQu4JTzW//qV+YQeD+j 3I9ku/FvbDOvMy0KUELfrFyM0wq1YR4+5gYWaq7PX1dqdCCZhBWnyOn9vr1TYim4 8pRmIWYuTLsQouZCgL7cmWw7kiS7BcvGX/RjNxkpUp3fWcNhPWprt18E3EfuKGpE cJKXyENvoUtO8N3UDeVNt+USJtjwNXfreRvCRRqFSs65vw2N3GpIZcLgNNF8JQxN RyZ1g1nFjs9XGO2/qFU4E4yTPMYJ4Q== =FFaY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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[66.158.159.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s63sm300170qkh.64.2020.03.31.16.20.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:20:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 19:20:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:53:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Pierre! Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >>> (list (file-system >>> (device (file-system-label "my-root")) >>> (mount-point "/") >>> - (type "ext4") >>> + (type "btrfs") >>> + (options "subvol=rootfs, compress=zs [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.5 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.160.194 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.160.194 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Hello Pierre! Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >>> (list (file-system >>> (device (file-system-label "my-root")) >>> (mount-point "/") >>> - (type "ext4") >>> + (type "btrfs") >>> + (options "subvol=rootfs,compress=zstd") > > By the way in your patch you did not document the syntax (options > "subvol=..."). Are you sure you are looking at the right patch series (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16)? I documented usage examples for a root file system using Btrfs subvolumes. > Is it supported nonetheless in your patch? Yes. > Is it supported in current Guix? Not currently; the patch set is in review :-). I have it running on 3 machines and there's a system test which shows it working as well, so don't be afraid to try it! Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 07:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158572442729152 (code B ref 40236); Wed, 01 Apr 2020 07:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2020 07:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJXMQ-0007a6-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 03:00:27 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:49129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJXMN-0007ZF-UY for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 03:00:24 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A46E1BF212; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 07:00:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 09:00:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> By the way in your patch you did not document the syntax (options >> "subvol=..."). > > Are you sure you are looking at the right patch series > (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16)? I documen [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Content preview: Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> By the way in your patch you did not document the syntax (options >> "subvol=..."). > > Are you sure you are looking at the right patch series > (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16)? I documen [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: guix.info] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.201 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.5 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> By the way in your patch you did not document the syntax (options >> "subvol=3D..."). > > Are you sure you are looking at the right patch series > (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16)? I documented usage examples > for a root file system using Btrfs subvolumes. I was looking at the wrong patch indeed, sorry about that! :) >> Is it supported nonetheless in your patch? > > Yes. > >> Is it supported in current Guix? > > Not currently; the patch set is in review :-). I have it running on 3 > machines and there's a system test which shows it working as well, so > don't be afraid to try it! Does this go on master or core-updates? Does it rebuild the world? I don't have much hardware to build anything at the moment, so I can only t= est this if it's a small build ;) =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6EO/4ACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH94lQf+NhcqI68fQ04n/FcrzNbAzWzbHdMjV7SW5lqpbpMXLfktQaaSmNTS3tIO zbZ4atT4DlmWEdU7bXHLlEouc9gFpKouY89MOTHA7uIsjOWEj90D5UJzz2qO55rS 1O3wjbncSKHe2ydtnSJ2XzeFe/+/PnedpbPmfpiXdopJbhFbYsMxLsaMbeDx3R9T F9kYWknDiROcWd+11ZxBWEnJk58MARAeuFfJb87UAlrWCNm5oECm5E47Ch8RYYp1 yKXeJneiIpB2fifn0DeKAIBMyGKUEIhjEZtxJJPJOiHhhXZ4elvTtgqSCgYLFMRe 7va3s97e+X2u/Ys67XU2JxSwfhIzpg== =wHLf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Pierre Neidhardt Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158577649614606 (code B ref 40236); Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2020 21:28:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJkuF-0003nT-OT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:28:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJkuE-0003n5-L2 for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:28:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJku8-0003QR-FC; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:28:08 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=53832 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jJku6-0004gA-Vc; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:28:07 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 23:28:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Mon, 30 Mar 2020 21:52:43 -0400") Message-ID: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi! Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > I've marked this blocked by 37305, which includes GRUB support for > booting from a subvolume as well as documentation about Btrfs usage in > Guix. Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and that=E2=80=99s probably a more tes= ted configuration currently. Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= writes: > Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and =?UTF-8?Q?that=E2=80=99s?= probably a more tested > configuration currently. Could a subvolume-less Btrfs be more problematic than ext4? If not, it might be a good idea to also switch to Btrfs in the installer. Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Content preview: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= writes: > Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and =?UTF-8?Q?that=E2=80=99s?= probably a more tested > configuration currently. Could a subvolume-less Btrfs be more problematic than ext4? If not, it might be a good idea to also switch to Btrfs in the installer. Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.178.231 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.5 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and that=E2=80=99s probably a more t= ested > configuration currently. Could a subvolume-less Btrfs be more problematic than ext4? If not, it might be a good idea to also switch to Btrfs in the installer. I've tested Btrfs with Zstd:3 compression on a new GNOME + EXWM install: I've achieved a stunning 30% compression like Maxim. I must say that it's extremely useful, if not necessary, on a 60GiB SSD... = :D =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEyBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6FkQYACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH9BRAf3Y4mjvrWwbe+Gc9AKOPqFT1HU48ChERkW024J4KXU8ABJnMKsE2tI0T7f FdpjTjRpzcYS8vmFMJTUlGSn4WaWAMTcZBWGGKebn0R59GdD2bh5brNXTRWy1Lsf LFQyxZO0eotRIshIqYomS3Uk6gSwl8AbfvaBM1bG2ldztYzwUwuSGcf8jJJBGo1m Ivqdtdjx2DeXpKZKi2j6AFDoJPP5MLRp9LsV2l7AGot9F2/CpNtdZQkiUvQqgGno Er7tX7cm27omJU7+xMMzknmqynauSJsdS0d9EyVenYze44D3X8INQiJXKEDwdhVR 8UTsUQvVWYuNnR6EqqXLbbv0xSie =yP4m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158581468928770 (code B ref 40236); Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2020 08:04:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39108 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJuqH-0007Tx-AR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:04:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jJuqG-0007Th-9o for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:04:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJuqA-0004WB-J9; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:04:42 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=55524 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jJuqA-0005j9-3o; Thu, 02 Apr 2020 04:04:42 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 14 Germinal an 228 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 10:04:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:15:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) Hi, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and that=E2=80=99s probably a more = tested >> configuration currently. > > Could a subvolume-less Btrfs be more problematic than ext4? > If not, it might be a good idea to also switch to Btrfs in the installer. I think it=E2=80=99s more work than just switching: we have to do enough testing, add new automated tests, etc. Also, any change in this area should happen post-release. :-) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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There you could showcase all the stuff btrfs can do for us :) From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= writes: > Hi, > > Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > >> Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= writes: >> >>> Also, the installer defaults to ext4 and =?UTF-8?Q?that=E2=80=99s?= probably a more tested >>> configuration currently. >> >> Could a subvolu [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Let's keep this issue open and revisit what extra tests and validation should be done after the release to consider a switch viable. Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jonathan, For some reason I did not receive your email: Jonathan Brielmaier wrote on Tue Mar 31 14:09:04+0200 2020 > > * gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl: Adjust root file-system to use Btrfs. > > I would oppose this change as I had too much troubles with [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jonathan, For some reason I did not receive your email: Jonathan Brielmaier wrote on Tue Mar 31 14:09:04+0200 2020 > > * gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl: Adjust root file-system to use Btrfs. > > I would oppose this change as I had too much troubles with [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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I used a simple partition layout spanning the whole > disk. AFAIK this is not really recommended with btrfs. My laptop was > from time to time unusable until I reinstalled it with ext4... This is for Guix System only. Did you mean that it would be problematic if you were running openSUSE in dual boot? > Further do we need all this rollback stuff from btrfs if we have it > already in Guix? Btrfs has many benefits over Ext3: it offers compression to about 30% on average, it supports subvolumes, snapshots and snapshot syncing, and much more. For all these reasons I believe Btrfs is a good default for the OSes of tom= orrow! :) =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6LjyAACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH+KFAf7BmPRB+W+twjyyCtOzYZ2tX5PIOlMfuiZcSjyyjGPNsadMtjA+QDN3ibX jD/rgMx9aE18p4fwcdJXsnOeNNQX+aYcwzffD7tz0kGmTqcy4+veZichTnP7Xz+j 1Ry63J0Sawfu2X5HKEy0NtmnHJa0k4uxnUZMAKDOAUZSYhfzXjmtHMBK0MIYVi7Y XvnNlGLGKnQDYnsLvfxYcpk6LOcCLYCk49306+WicyZR/KCeBbhzDDnvqyniMw8e Wu1erIpuD+kWDrpazDnSA7tvL0n8Uj8bUmcNxuO6ifddCmeVjZjj2WSLxzEVX3KW i891BgaZRUmQymfrn3UiH9BZ9mN6rw== =Qg+i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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I used a simple partition layout spanning the whole >> disk. AFAIK this is not really recommended with btrfs. My laptop was >> from time to time unusable until I reinstalled it with ext4... > > This is for Guix System only. Did you mean that it would be problematic > if you were running openSUSE in dual boot? No, I did run openSUSE on btrfs, there was no Guix involved at all. But btrfs seemed to be the root case of all my troubles (performance, hang-ups etc). >> Further do we need all this rollback stuff from btrfs if we have it >> already in Guix? > > Btrfs has many benefits over Ext3: > > it offers compression to about 30% on average, it supports subvolumes, > snapshots and snapshot syncing, and much more. Snapshots did fill up my disk. I had no use for them on my laptop. On a Guix System even less, because you have rollbacks from the package manager :) > For all these reasons I believe Btrfs is a good default for the OSes of = tomorrow! :) So maybe create a config for the OSes of tomorrow: btrfs, wireguard, rust etc :P From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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Content preview: Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > No, I did run openSUSE on btrfs, there was no Guix involved at all. But > btrfs seemed to be the root case of all my troubles (performance, > hang-ups etc). Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Of course experiences vary ;) >>> Further do we need all this rollback stuff from btrfs if we have it >>> already in Guix? >> >> Btrfs has many benefits over Ext3: >> >> it offers compression to about 30% on average, it supports subvolumes, >> snapshots and snapshot syncing, and much more. > > Snapshots did fill up my disk. What do you mean? > I had no use for them on my laptop. On a > Guix System even less, because you have rollbacks from the package > manager :) Snapshots are not just for rollbacks: you can sync them across the network to a remote machine. This allows you to deploy disk images very fast. >> For all these reasons I believe Btrfs is a good default for the OSes of = tomorrow! :) > > So maybe create a config for the OSes of tomorrow: btrfs, wireguard, > rust etc :P In the end, what I'm suggesting is this issue is merely a recommendation. Currently Guix is very annoying to use on small Ext4 partitions, e.g. a 64 GiB SSD. With compression on, you suddenly get 3x more space for your /gnu/store :) =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6MJsYACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH/muQgAkVJtLaFxlqvU94+t6ZMBZErAbX8thuaFsLG7H1dMDLVRCI+7qP7eVdrp 1BKwsJ7eqWkPICAe/lFts45hMjaGJdvPGzfNXGaqq8N4G1/5YetkWB8EuwM4jLFJ Z/qxjpj0hT4j9AMLiw4IVmS4qrD6c8ndwB3M4/MAaUwdrQWOBj6K8KhEShEueRub DCjmf5k04cPmOSWu+gegWAqQUfhF5H3bLrEkUb3Fq1P5eXQ28+ZSagQpdCS/8CmP gWGes+h9I1DeWJ6dWn0xk3bb3cE8CeSwr/vyeeaHNo+iGHE8GjqHQWB1l98KTkDk 1/gt9dK+lOrWAQQmGfbDvwZCdLS5VQ== =Fmgq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > >> No, I did run openSUSE on btrfs, there was no Guix involved at all. But >> btrfs seemed to be the root case of all my troubles (performance, >> hang-ups etc). Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.219.67 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.219.67 listed in wl.mailspike.net] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > >> No, I did run openSUSE on btrfs, there was no Guix involved at all. But >> btrfs seemed to be the root case of all my troubles (performance, >> hang-ups etc). I have yet to encounter this kind of problem on the 3 Guix Systems I've installed with root Btrfs file systems. It's been rock stable, even under heavy use (I have a Guix machine configured as a Jenkins slave at work that builds Yocto projects -- it churns through GiB of files daily). [...] >> Snapshots did fill up my disk. Snapshots only fill up the disk when we use them (and leave them behind for enough time that the content they refer to has been mostly rewritten. >> So maybe create a config for the OSes of tomorrow: btrfs, wireguard, >> rust etc :P > > In the end, what I'm suggesting is this issue is merely a > recommendation. > > Currently Guix is very annoying to use on small Ext4 partitions, e.g. a > 64 GiB SSD. With compression on, you suddenly get 3x more space for > your /gnu/store :) I agree that compression is a nice feature.. It also speeds sequential disk reads and writes. On an old laptop that has a 64 GiB SSD and uses ext4, I have to 'guix gc' too often, and worry a lot about spaces (there's literally not much else than Guix on the drive, but it manages to fill it up quite easily :-). Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 11:18:40PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, > > Pierre Neidhardt writes: > > > Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > > > >> No, I [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) --i7PFf0A+xzvFOD9h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 11:18:40PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Pierre Neidhardt writes: >=20 > > Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > > > >> No, I did run openSUSE on btrfs, there was no Guix involved at all. But > >> btrfs seemed to be the root case of all my troubles (performance, > >> hang-ups etc). >=20 > I have yet to encounter this kind of problem on the 3 Guix Systems I've > installed with root Btrfs file systems. It's been rock stable, even > under heavy use (I have a Guix machine configured as a Jenkins slave at > work that builds Yocto projects -- it churns through GiB of files > daily). >=20 > [...] >=20 > >> Snapshots did fill up my disk. >=20 > Snapshots only fill up the disk when we use them (and leave them behind > for enough time that the content they refer to has been mostly > rewritten. >=20 > >> So maybe create a config for the OSes of tomorrow: btrfs, wireguard, > >> rust etc :P > > > > In the end, what I'm suggesting is this issue is merely a > > recommendation. > > > > Currently Guix is very annoying to use on small Ext4 partitions, e.g. a > > 64 GiB SSD. With compression on, you suddenly get 3x more space for > > your /gnu/store :) >=20 > I agree that compression is a nice feature.. It also speeds sequential > disk reads and writes. On an old laptop that has a 64 GiB SSD and uses > ext4, I have to 'guix gc' too often, and worry a lot about spaces > (there's literally not much else than Guix on the drive, but it manages > to fill it up quite easily :-). >=20 (ins)efraim@E5400 ~$ sudo compsize -x /gnu/store/ Password: Processed 3158140 files, 737675 regular extents (2467369 refs), 1335101 inl= ine. Type Perc Disk Usage Uncompressed Referenced TOTAL 74% 51G 69G 180G none 100% 32G 32G 86G lzo 51% 19G 36G 93G My understanding of this is that I have 36GB of files that are compressed at 51% to 19GB, and overall due to the deduplication in the store I have references to what would otherwise be 180GB total taking up only 51G. So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me 62% ([180-69]/180). --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --i7PFf0A+xzvFOD9h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl6PgbkACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1EwYQ/7BugCQ95p43ZUV57bwTaGCBa40ZRU1K1pv7lNeKZlIvRXd28eEbrQJsDI zLdZzROLFOvF2mUXBmEI+9+c+4SmyQRzeT5JjVkB8u9y4h/ulMRk+2bB9UtzCgLk vdsoleaFfH5TOModhr9QpbMkOpnCBznKukMG8pmzbtL8YDip+q+Ifn12YXQLTK1/ 82TjDV0211uKRNZm2Mn/Kz/38J7N1KfFYjgT+++VGTX3ZL4jl2PgxGLjToribtAu 5MKORgc7FcCGi9RLfFwkVVLr0tv4yP9WJxbLyQlxYauCyQTvFBGuFqELN1bW/qOp c754T0O5wAIpHUJxZe8d2Nig3ljAlrPIEEMeodzWgXkCGEEYDwvKrsWA/iiswqfz w44SKn0qq3zPnczCg4kFl2O/JRKkrOzp0M5TIneLEnyls8SrKMiCspyTpvst9o6y tZP0ZdlRXyaJ/MwmlN0EYTga9YUppg4ArfQ5rlupBxO4xfCSq8uXZD0Omd7hGL/I nJagLqERNJk2mmh4TyItNRFjnl1IJX5hyVfvfcyQoLpIZ97nIM0aRauZ99VoHhiN qMbcBC7YrTcEQh8aT4P12eopc9VD9ItitIENm+K9HRRzJYc5savuwyE6b2/S9KF1 YxaMglMV1TARhfIlMfxIbZmQuOfjocg2vJImUZFIDAwKdO3aZUI= =N+fz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i7PFf0A+xzvFOD9h-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me > 62% ([180-69]/180). Thanks for sharing! zstd might give better results. Any reason you chose lzo over zstd? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Resent-From: Efraim Flashner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158650710513292 (code B ref 40236); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2020 08:25:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jMoyH-0003SJ-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 04:25:05 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:41792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jMoyF-0003Rj-Pa for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 04:25:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [141.226.9.17]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E70C94034D; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:24:25 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner Message-ID: <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FJ766Kk/2p6HVARF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --FJ766Kk/2p6HVARF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me > > 62% ([180-69]/180). >=20 > Thanks for sharing! > zstd might give better results. Any reason you chose lzo over zstd? >=20 My machine is about 10 years old so I was more concerned than normal about the CPU usage. If lz4 was an option I would've gone with that, but according to the Arch wiki or some other locations lzo was basically the fastest option. Since mail is mostly text I occasionally recompress that. I haven't figured out how to use 'btrfs filesystem defragment' to choose the compression level for zstd. (ins)efraim@E5400 ~$ sudo compsize Maildir/ Password: Processed 121378 files, 129245 regular extents (129245 refs), 19963 inline. 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Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Efraim Flashner Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158650946816994 (code B ref 40236); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2020 09:04:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jMpaO-0004Q1-3r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 05:04:28 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:50165) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jMpaM-0004Pp-2A for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 05:04:27 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BABD6000D; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:04:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:04:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Efraim Flashner writes: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me >> > 62% ([180-69]/180). >> >> Thanks for sharing! >> zstd [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Efraim Flashner writes: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me >> > 62% ([180-69]/180). >> >> Thanks for sharing! >> zstd [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [217.70.183.195 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Efraim Flashner writes: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me >> > 62% ([180-69]/180). >>=20 >> Thanks for sharing! >> zstd might give better results. Any reason you chose lzo over zstd? >>=20 > > My machine is about 10 years old so I was more concerned than normal > about the CPU usage. If lz4 was an option I would've gone with that, but > according to the Arch wiki or some other locations lzo was basically the > fastest option. I've tried zstd on an AMD Athlon II X4 635 (2010): it's perfectly smooth, can't notice any performance drop. In fact, I wonder if it's not even faster than before, but it's hard to measure. Note that Arch Wiki tends to be on the conservative side when it comes to performance. I would not use it as a reference for the general case: it may guide users to sacrifice convenience and features over unnoticeable performance gains. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi! Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Efraim Flashner writes: > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >>> > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me >>> > 62% ([180-69]/180). [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Efraim Flashner writes: > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >>> > So compression saves me 26% ([69-51]/69), and deduplication saves me >>> > 62% ([180-69]/180). >>> >>> Thanks for sharing! >>> zstd might give better results. Any reason you chose lzo over zstd? >>> >> >> My machine is about 10 years old so I was more concerned than normal >> about the CPU usage. If lz4 was an option I would've gone with that, but >> according to the Arch wiki or some other locations lzo was basically the >> fastest option. > > I've tried zstd on an AMD Athlon II X4 635 (2010): it's perfectly > smooth, can't notice any performance drop. In fact, I wonder if it's > not even faster than before, but it's hard to measure. I've also tried zstd (default level, 3) on a Intel Q6700 desktop (2007). I don't see any CPU spike caused by the compression. It's operating quite smoothly actually, and gives me the following space savings: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- sudo compsize -x /gnu/store Processed 1613194 files, 402674 regular extents (1163093 refs), 665696 inline. Type Perc Disk Usage Uncompressed Referenced TOTAL 60% 15G 25G 63G none 100% 10G 10G 28G zstd 33% 5.1G 15G 34G --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Recently on the #btrfs channel someone suggested to use the Btrfs option compress-force=zstd rather than compress=zstd, the reason being that zstd has its own algorithm to determine if it should compress a file or not, and that this is faster than what Btrfs does on its own when trying to test for compressibility. Another suggestion was to use space_cache=v2 (it defaults to v1). This is supposedly more efficient at managing the free space pool on large drives (TB and up). Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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Content preview: Thanks for sharing those tips! -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.197 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing those tips! =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6VXeQACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH8vPAf9EFMCUrxVl55rWL6DEsJsSfrI4SzSJ/CUdGETuKbWDdF3ZlwkRsdmUDfB S+/d3Fdf9ILmR2MCXue7qtsGW6tE+vUJsyIhj4ToB8ZC26OvomrKnc3euYsS863R qLXFwCTsVrQA1tmhn+/YLktJemU9UO6roF7ri/rg39qgeyYyNPBcOC53EfNjZAUM 62j1bHJnRgu3pTsiGcYOQVOsLf9FaoWQwQ/AfZjjLQLAx6dNMge/SSLYKvNA35nJ tatTTbg6ov0UdX6DM381wYzS0kvEFJ+CnKn258g4NV4bBKeZmTxKn3oeBWS1uPC6 WL6f2d9eryNO+MBp+efITViaIxB0qg== =1Q0l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 13:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158842621811240 (code B ref 40236); Sat, 02 May 2020 13:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2020 13:30:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsDW-0002hc-Gu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:30:18 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:38097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsDT-0002e7-7C for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:30:04 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA41140008; Sat, 2 May 2020 13:29:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 15:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Maxim, Out of curiosity, is #37305 (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16) going to make it on the next core-updates merge or is it too late? Cheers! Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Maxim, Out of curiosity, is #37305 (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16) going to make it on the next core-updates merge or is it too late? Cheers! Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [217.70.183.194 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR SPF: test of HELO record failed (temperror) 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Maxim, Out of curiosity, is #37305 (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16) going to make it on the next core-updates merge or is it too late? Cheers! =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6tddIACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH/T/gf/eWi0/zCZzyWpEaMJInfDnD7+Qh2OpYLceO8dR4/Hb8lPNOZW2w3pNtuH sL6jT2Wjt7ds5xlgtwgWywkpn08hx9GUN2wu8jCMK7zN+XnBbhTMHWbkvmAElrwS 1Nlinqgzs9g5MImK2lHJTqJ3Og2f8LQHt9CHsSdJgIasfpYZhjcCpmKNKY2Zio0X oL4F0Ff2lw1A9Oxy1dX4TPUbd+Nth5kaVzJscaNZ0GiwGJHbQNXwGZQoRt1TSiDf EluRauSgX38nlPLKMtJEGfzIPgUnV9HlkA+4qtctNxcwgbRMcRBneO8hsyndzoI1 ZteiK6ewx+2pN3cNSnkOD2cXOZ5Xtw== =+Gq7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Marius Bakke Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 13:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pierre Neidhardt , Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158842746120528 (code B ref 40236); Sat, 02 May 2020 13:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2020 13:51:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51630 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsXd-0005Kt-RJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:51:01 -0400 Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:52805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsXb-0005Kg-Vk for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:50:53 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA31307; Sat, 2 May 2020 09:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 May 2020 09:50:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm2; bh=TnDkjpgtN4qGJqxz8CEzhzo8gu BEWkh75PpcP+Qse3A=; b=Amb0JY2NceLpeAUb2uaKS8Qg8wbGfVjRhwmakemwJM DQSaJZa2SzDqkWQ8jXT245dMlGn1fz1iWlZkdNpqTjeUVrmaLiDpLwwjX9HEj5uy Ukclx27vJ5ylSqzwVHs13SeABEtotgWWbeR5BCuPz1KFB04ELLEHvOixL/zsnwqD 3FSMNvZZfUpCzclbwp2qYuIjCMZqlfGVNSbOb+wIYUHpUzJUBEj7hSWVnMMhloiM zjWX/Pk1mAnK4OlsN3LfssaREVpwTEGYKhHkJnATfGa+uPFa+Fgku+onLKvPiuUC GudLDk4Upb7hNFmJvwb4LFC6kfHs5JsZ4ecMmwOR3lrQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=TnDkjp gtN4qGJqxz8CEzhzo8guBEWkh75PpcP+Qse3A=; b=akD3JIkNzvYJPTDMMnyLFU MBGEIiLzhf04dExd1cU00ojHrtetLhNccwq2JJqTFGlkKnxFfmg5nKsnzVp/AHRy 8iwpMq16rKZGTRQE0AEFewmTxxkK8rDZJ9NxgMLHb1diWKuZNww7YoViDT9p/U+l 4vQ2GlTa+R4cA2Qj3P4jR8BsMVAY+n+nCFBTFjcGsjCkMAEejwhX655LYiSMEZU/ KFi85Z5HMDxVJZcWa2dfgDfZ+OmLZapJLqjdCzaUCyJi8bBVzozYeApl0KjQxBx6 S8rS1X9Cta+YS3+ZMr92Yhu1dexL/vxtSWEaGUITmtad/p4MKG2XJKc3faQDX2Cg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrieelgdeijecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfg hrlhcuvffnffculddujedmnecujfgurhephffvufgjfhgffffkgggtsehgtderredtredt necuhfhrohhmpeforghrihhushcuuegrkhhkvgcuoehmsggrkhhkvgesfhgrshhtmhgrih hlrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhtefhhfevuedvueevkeeiveegffejkeej gefgieevhefffeevheevgefgueelgeenucffohhmrghinhepghhuihigrdhinhhfohenuc fkphepkeegrddvtddvrdeikedrjeehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghr rghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhgsrghkkhgvsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (ti0006q161-2604.bb.online.no [84.202.68.75]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2F3323280063; Sat, 2 May 2020 09:50:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Marius Bakke In-Reply-To: <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.29.3 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/26.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 15:50:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87zhaq30p8.fsf@devup.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Hi Maxim, > > Out of curiosity, is #37305 (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16) > going to make it on the next core-updates merge or is it too late? Why would it have to go through 'core-updates'? Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: messagingengine.com] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [64.147.123.25 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mbakke[at]fastmail.com) 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Hi Maxim, > > Out of curiosity, is #37305 (https://issues.guix.info/issue/37305#16) > going to make it on the next core-updates merge or is it too late? Why would it have to go through 'core-updates'? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEu7At3yzq9qgNHeZDoqBt8qM6VPoFAl6terMACgkQoqBt8qM6 VPraiwgAjZ8lR/zRA6LuQnY9ybg+WIxfXAJ7AKJQy/a9e7sv2UDwgjjQRNWLnA9I OIbmecSN4eUUKWeJ1ul8cJMcvuc3FATQwU/lLDAC7HWWkhTjg3gmkhVBaoJhD9Wy bJ0h+peSeKX4QgADtXaXPY1Lhedw1qE1QY53SyQB0eNbv1ktue5Wn/jZRGwazmk2 8Lx1FQEwuFQzAig/VHzrP1Gw5xGg0M63t59Y7nmuVHhQ6HtCBmXrAdtefj6FMXhz Jd1SUcoat9AxNYzxHxyLqT7tWZE6CE7Q5AZ9btauCrCoNx5efA9pRgXxlVJAPIxK 84Kmq/auThNshCBY3LhN2CpE0c41Ww== =eL2A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 13:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Marius Bakke , Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158842792623108 (code B ref 40236); Sat, 02 May 2020 13:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2020 13:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsfG-00060e-H5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:58:46 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:33717) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsfD-00060N-MJ for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:58:44 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51AA060004; Sat, 2 May 2020 13:58:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87zhaq30p8.fsf@devup.no> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhaq30p8.fsf@devup.no> Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 15:58:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87ftcicubb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [217.70.183.195 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6tfIgACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH8gfQf8DDCrHKLLmly2sslGARYbR54X2FDBs/8lLOwj+ErWuRXNG/1lDkBhE0mG rI0QXnkD/pTVEAI9Laqw6AOss260Dp4FRWQm9FmSxfHio36ZrNKkNfZAmwt7ULRT k6wf29DxSJF5wygh/DgVHS2VLue+3vqAnzOzmRVlbuaJsjudrzTMNFriZEvgC6to n5sea91354A3/1jBj/tgTm68pn4htmXP7tivC3uZ9kW03p2niOTjYxxlKssF/A1t roQLQajzS1FJixbDM0tCGiatUEZ16xQwEujNnKokqiM811FLPO701vgm5ohVUSPj G7ELsTgEfGEAcjraGxqgKvzvmaWDaw== =W44L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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[72.10.131.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v2sm6247193qth.66.2020.05.02.12.03.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 02 May 2020 12:03:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhaq30p8.fsf@devup.no> <87ftcicubb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 15:03:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ftcicubb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Sat, 02 May 2020 15:58:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87pnbm40s5.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pierre Neidhardt writes: > I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. No, it doesn't :-). After it gets duly reviewed, it can go to the master branch. Content analysis details: (2.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pierre Neidhardt writes: > I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. No, it doesn't :-). After it gets duly reviewed, it can go to the master branch. Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.222.194 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.222.194 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Pierre Neidhardt writes: > I assumed it rebuilt the world, maybe I remembered wrong. No, it doesn't :-). After it gets duly reviewed, it can go to the master branch. I've recently had the "chance" to experience a degraded RAID1 array, which made me reconsider some of the simplifications that were made to the original patch series (such as removing the option for users to pass root options to the initrd -- this would be useful to input the "degraded" mount option required to boot a degraded array, if your system is no longer in a capacity to be reconfigured). So I may want to reintroduce those changes, although this could also be done at a later point as well. Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 07:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: Marius Bakke , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.158848929411300 (code B ref 40236); Sun, 03 May 2020 07:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2020 07:01:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jV8d3-0002wB-VC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 03:01:34 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:49853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jV8d1-0002vx-S6 for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 03:01:32 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBD68E0006; Sun, 3 May 2020 07:01:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87pnbm40s5.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7y5z3x0.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfnga83c.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87tv24w1ql.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2rf8zcx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8r6cvn1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhaq30p8.fsf@devup.no> <87ftcicubb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87pnbm40s5.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 09:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgghbiyn.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: OK, thanks for the details. What is "degraded RAID1"? I'll see if I can test. the patch on my Btrfs system. Anything else I can do to help? Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.196 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: OK, thanks for the details. What is "degraded RAID1"? I'll see if I can test. the patch on my Btrfs system. Anything else I can do to help? Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [217.70.183.196 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.196 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, thanks for the details. What is "degraded RAID1"? I'll see if I can test. the patch on my Btrfs system. Anything else I can do to help? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl6ubEAACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH9LiAf/TL/WX+mfv3v9nDFqcTurgJ0ErkTnbqKl8aC1fdoYnnCHfEURV0/7J15W q3NH8OrsahYDFeycuupvbvkyDTFt+xDh0KaAe0kevHlhv2WVHcIiheNiGunKoV/J L8a9hS8Hhjxxzexl9uY+JlSe5dVFQCvFUyt16T8CpKvGGP6l5IDq4f49Xo3UrhEG /RrOQdTb6hSyErzyT5Rx/J+dfh+q8R4AdR1toNyu47vY/yfR/2+DhUS+lNG/OxJF K8i08K/12ZPnNEqXBLPcPB/pZgl/92/Cpx7S9811d/xlMT6Hf1C4+k/kHkV8ERJq VxrKiA/04lbjLcQqNarhdbuLbjnLvA== =M8z/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pierre Neidhardt writes: > OK, thanks for the details. > > What is "degraded RAID1"? Degraded RAID1 would be a RAID1 array (mirror disks) in which at least one drive has failed. As long as at least a single healthy disk remains, the RAID1 array should remain functional but requires to [...] Content analysis details: (2.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pierre Neidhardt writes: > OK, thanks for the details. > > What is "degraded RAID1"? Degraded RAID1 would be a RAID1 array (mirror disks) in which at least one drive has failed. As long as at least a single healthy disk remains, the RAID1 array should remain functional but requires to [...] Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.222.194 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.222.194 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Pierre Neidhardt writes: > OK, thanks for the details. > > What is "degraded RAID1"? Degraded RAID1 would be a RAID1 array (mirror disks) in which at least one drive has failed. As long as at least a single healthy disk remains, the RAID1 array should remain functional but requires to be mounted with the 'degraded' mount option (this is done to flag that there is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, e.g., replace the faulty drive). > I'll see if I can test. the patch on my Btrfs system. > Anything else I can do to help? Testing on a live system should provide extra confidence that the patch work as advertised. I have done so on my machines for a while (there's also a system test), but I'd like to know if it works for someone else :-). Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 07:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Efraim Flashner , Jonathan Brielmaier Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.15909107733170 (code B ref 40236); Sun, 31 May 2020 07:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2020 07:39:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59665 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfIZA-0000p4-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 03:39:32 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:47873) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfIZ9-0000oq-Nd for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 03:39:31 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.248.96.161 Received: from mimimi (mqu44-1-78-248-96-161.fbx.proxad.net [78.248.96.161]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83AC5240004; Sun, 31 May 2020 07:39:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 09:39:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the latter. As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, with Zstd compression. For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. Thoughts? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl7TXysACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH+kZQgAlGGtbiZrdC0fkEBelLjacWgZjCpQF1X8lDW63aOf3cytKawL/X+mA5BX 9b8/6WgMMnwNVGskjbjF+xGEh5U0Losusrx43oTB3eCl6gWsQACdGQ8cvppWmcC1 ZP6VWkKIbvYOfisOV9KMILJOWo02xb4IhFubApcqSu4vDylyaBZctNu7ky+r2zSE NMk5cPNMzQzcURaBQK6nX+PRDm9IPR1fLaWbDoLaltjLHJdCRQ9OipYPfZdnwmXx GQ3ORHFS48AMtoU5JxHdT92YgaA9Q94QxH1FrZRxW9LDjbcCVrRIEqfX7+51X/I/ fcrqngUdJfOG1KsiANQ9J36mOvLb3w== =9oqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Efraim Flashner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 07:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.15909117734613 (code B ref 40236); Sun, 31 May 2020 07:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2020 07:56:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfIpJ-0001CK-7M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 03:56:13 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:45464) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfIpH-0001C7-Ry for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 03:56:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [188.120.128.90]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABFD640031; Sun, 31 May 2020 07:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 10:55:32 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner Message-ID: <20200531075532.GD7397@E5400> References: <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 09:39:23AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. >=20 > 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. > 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. > 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the latter. >=20 > As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, > with Zstd compression. >=20 > For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. >=20 > Thoughts? My main concern is the possibility of data loss. I don't know how much is FUD and how much is legit so to me it seems safest to see what OpenSuSE uses and to mimic that a bit (in terms of not using most of the features available). That said, I use btrfs with no subvolumes with compression turned on and I'm pretty happy with that. Two more things: /var/guix/db should probably have CoW disabled, as should /tmp would the deduplication of btrfs be "better" than the deduplication from the daemon? --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl7TYvIACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1H+Cg//YpbDdN3NPulrM+nGXxBZTit1Wky4NJUhSU4JDsZSZLwR5jOZpUTwXth1 tIt+3T4FrBCQJ1UgAdu4/eXi8AmZnjitByfpY3oSMOkedAF1nYiHh5O0vIzgXjaK A6h5GH2s3fPYZAYVCLfoOJcRJdS/yVT6CYKiX5tZ1Sen3RYdOJAKKEsYS0414+NQ pogG96VThVezkulY6s1c52YpnxznMig+Rdi9KiCasc6RIppOm1z1RT22PqZfK0cQ k9U1CwHhsa+WokiexupliNZotSYn0g20AGnF+HL+3JhTjPg21BWMgrgd78DYhqLw myT+lo/emYl0MJa0J1gYfdXtOAMmenskp54PmYBJFjkekGCgFOwmdvLW91lYbJC/ Wq9Ld7jQp7wuuKzYQenWYJLQdBZaTXraZpqjCxZ8FAx04EYa5czjv/6z+/pu/JLe Fn42hDmQLsMSsUaD8ZkInfHrTuLX9StesNoh/t/flYbd2gwX/qoWqA/M0a3IBjvi YzQWprMSQC7h1vWQTOJTMWzT0DqIWFRMy5eA8wuefN9EkH7XfQFQN6fQlkec5L4O 2qQJah7ba9spilNnlaeeQ99RBHT0MEya0lmUecksPRu3jmJljAxlJCNyrF7rZ8t7 xH3hJ/m32aKpERJVZo55oz7dhId4INqtUh69zcVXzmav/IDqP/4= =kKwm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 21:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner , Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.159095924030322 (code B ref 40236); Sun, 31 May 2020 21:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2020 21:07:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfVAt-0007sz-UI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 17:07:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfVAs-0007sn-Fr for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2020 17:07:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jfVAl-00061w-SK; Sun, 31 May 2020 17:07:11 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=49906 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jfVAk-0003hX-Qf; Sun, 31 May 2020 17:07:11 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 13 Prairial an 228 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 23:07:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Sun, 31 May 2020 09:39:23 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftbfreyr.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Hi Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. > > 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. > 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. > 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the latter. > > As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, > with Zstd compression. > > For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. > > Thoughts? Like I wrote earlier, ext4 is better tested configuration. For the people who take care of the release, believe me, it=E2=80=99s reassuring to= have one less moving piece. So the question is not whether Btrfs is =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D, it=E2=80= =99s more about the confidence and peace of mind of those responsible for the release and subsequent maintenance. Now, contributions that make Btrfs well-supported in the installer (is anything missing there?) and in system tests would be welcome I guess. In the manual, it=E2=80=99s also fine IMO to mention something like: Some file systems, such as Btrfs, support compression, which is reported to nicely complement file deduplication that the daemon performs independently of the file system (@pxref{Invoking guix-daemon}). So a hint for savvy people rather than a recommendation. Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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Efraim Flashner writes: > On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 09:39:23AM +0200, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. >> >> 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. >> 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. >> 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the latter. >> >> As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, >> with Zstd compression. >> >> For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. >> >> Thoughts? > > My main concern is the possibility of data loss. I don't know how much > is FUD and how much is legit so to me it seems safest to see what > OpenSuSE uses and to mimic that a bit (in terms of not using most of the > features available). Except for Btrfs RAID 5 and 6, which are still known to have issues and are considered experimental, I'd say mostly FUD, although there were some bugs in Linux 5.1 and 5.2. As you noted, (Open)SUSE defaults to Btrfs, and companies such as Synology ship network storage products with Btrfs on. If it was that bad, nobody would buy those, and the companies would stop proudly advertising their use of Btrfs. > That said, I use btrfs with no subvolumes with compression turned on and > I'm pretty happy with that. > > Two more things: > /var/guix/db should probably have CoW disabled, as should /tmp I haven't bothered and my system seems to be doing OK. When I asked in #btrfs, people told me to keep CoW unless I was really sure it was a problem (i.e., run benchmarks), as it implies loosing the checksum validation and compression. The command 'man 5 btrfs' also states that "Updates in-place improve performance for workloads that do frequent overwrites, at the cost of potential partial writes, in case the write is interrupted (system crash, device failure).", which doesn't sound safe to do for something as important as /var/guix/db. > would the deduplication of btrfs be "better" than the deduplication from > the daemon? On my system (with zstd compression), compsize -x /gnu/store suggests a resounding yes: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- sudo compsize -x /gnu/store Processed 3479664 files, 954748 regular extents (3002677 refs), 1451082 inline. Type Perc Disk Usage Uncompressed Referenced TOTAL 57% 51G 88G 217G none 100% 32G 32G 81G zstd 33% 18G 56G 135G --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The delta between the Uncompressed and Referenced column is attributed to the deduplication done by Btrfs, and provides massive space savings in my case (this is just for /gnu/store). I'd need 217 GiB over a traditional fs such as EXT4 to hold my current store, while an uncompressed Btrfs partition would use only 88 GiB. With zstd compression, it's down to 51 GiB, or less that a quarter of what would have been required using EXT4. Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. > > 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. > 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Is it already possible to choose Btrfs in the graphical installer? I guess so, but I haven't tried. > 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the > latter. > As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, > with Zstd compression. My personal experience also tells me so, but it is true that it is still newer and more exotic than EXT4. > For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. What kind of tests are you referring to? There is a test in (gnu tests install) that install root on a Btrfs subvolume and boot from it, but I'm pretty sure the graphical installer doesn't have support for configuring a Btrfs subvolumes layout. > Thoughts? I'm in favor of encouraging the use of Btrfs with compression given that Guix puts more stress on storage space compared to traditional distros, and that I've had only positive experiences with Btrfs in the last year and half or so that I've used it on my machines. Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Ludovic, Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= writes: > Hi Pierre, > > Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > >> Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. >> >> 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. >> 2. We could make Btrfs the default i [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.160.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.160.195 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi Pierre, > > Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > >> Now that 37305 is merged, we can revisit this issue. >> >> 1. This patch only includes a documentation update. >> 2. We could make Btrfs the default in the graphical installer. >> 3. We would probably need to update the tests, at least for the latter. >> >> As mentioned above, I think it's safe to enable Btrfs without subvolume, >> with Zstd compression. >> >> For subvolumes, we would need to implement the corresponding tests. >> >> Thoughts? > > Like I wrote earlier, ext4 is better tested configuration. For the > people who take care of the release, believe me, it=E2=80=99s reassuring = to have > one less moving piece. I believe you! :-) > So the question is not whether Btrfs is =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D, it=E2= =80=99s more about the > confidence and peace of mind of those responsible for the release and > subsequent maintenance. > > Now, contributions that make Btrfs well-supported in the installer (is > anything missing there?) and in system tests would be welcome I guess. I don't know about the installer (I guess there's no support for configuring Btrfs subvolumes graphically), but for system tests we're already covered (we have a general Btrfs installation test, as well as one on a subvolume, even a Btrfs RAID one in patches). > In the manual, it=E2=80=99s also fine IMO to mention something like: > > Some file systems, such as Btrfs, support compression, which is > reported to nicely complement file deduplication that the daemon > performs independently of the file system (@pxref{Invoking > guix-daemon}). > > So a hint for savvy people rather than a recommendation. That's reasonable as a first step in democratizing Btrfs usage a bit, without taking any risk, if that's better for your peace of mind :-). Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Efraim Flashner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 06:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Pierre Neidhardt , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Jonathan Brielmaier Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.159099220317206 (code B ref 40236); Mon, 01 Jun 2020 06:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2020 06:16:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34337 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfdkZ-0004TS-AO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 02:16:43 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:47462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jfdkY-0004TD-4w for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 02:16:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [188.120.128.90]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BAFC40031; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 06:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 09:16:03 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner Message-ID: <20200601061603.GF7397@E5400> References: <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200531075532.GD7397@E5400> <878sh75scf.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878sh75scf.fsf@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Two more things: > > /var/guix/db should probably have CoW disabled, as should /tmp >=20 > I haven't bothered and my system seems to be doing OK. When I asked in > #btrfs, people told me to keep CoW unless I was really sure it was a > problem (i.e., run benchmarks), as it implies loosing the checksum > validation and compression. The command 'man 5 btrfs' also states that > "Updates in-place improve performance for workloads that do frequent > overwrites, at the cost of potential partial writes, in case the write > is interrupted (system crash, device failure).", which doesn't sound > safe to do for something as important as /var/guix/db. Fair enough. I had heard that the CoW stuff wasn't great for databases. I thought Leo ran into some issues with CoW on /tmp with the syncthing tests. > > would the deduplication of btrfs be "better" than the deduplication from > > the daemon? >=20 > On my system (with zstd compression), compsize -x /gnu/store suggests > a resounding yes: >=20 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > sudo compsize -x /gnu/store > Processed 3479664 files, 954748 regular extents (3002677 refs), 1451082 i= nline. > Type Perc Disk Usage Uncompressed Referenced > TOTAL 57% 51G 88G 217G > none 100% 32G 32G 81G > zstd 33% 18G 56G 135G > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > The delta between the Uncompressed and Referenced column is attributed > to the deduplication done by Btrfs, and provides massive space savings > in my case (this is just for /gnu/store). >=20 > I'd need 217 GiB over a traditional fs such as EXT4 to hold my current > store, while an uncompressed Btrfs partition would use only 88 GiB. > With zstd compression, it's down to 51 GiB, or less that a quarter of > what would have been required using EXT4. I always understood that as with compression you're using 51G instead of 88G, and because of deduplication from the daemon it would only be 88G instead of 217G. 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[URIs: ambrevar.xyz] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [217.70.183.200 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Efraim Flashner writes: > I always understood that as with compression you're using 51G instead of > 88G, and because of deduplication from the daemon it would only be 88G > instead of 217G. I took the numbers from 'none' to mean that the daemon > itself already did a lot of deduplication. That's what I understood as well. =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl7UsugACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH8VOQf/SuKuhJ0oFIO+oppWC3AwMGDfXv5UciCdA4ECCUvp2GElI3ZVlT6M50DM ySpxw/KIG1J2D960cfJz8dNoQAxZB55OMNELbtsA//q45rqAC1F15wgcmS2vGeiE 0vd9ToenujX1kkdOKE7Uu9UVsqo5QZVCoqD7mQGrGNOe1mgS3h7dy15Vdgb030BP npNynIlg7+Xp8WEdmtRA7RDYwM5+y3TcoK2d4tHeJknCjod9OppXan5q5KSXrOIG UcKx5RHkjP1lCWCWPJZqtnV5rpBAkCaVeNQCrqNTMv0OnqbNQhgeu4dHZuagSQhl uGeD9w+foaIeLjl5rDzUxhctl5HWxQ== =F0h9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi! Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Efraim Flashner writes: > >> I always understood that as with compression you're using 51G instead of >> 88G, and because of deduplication from the daemon it would only be 88G >> instead of 217G. [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Efraim Flashner writes: > >> I always understood that as with compression you're using 51G instead of >> 88G, and because of deduplication from the daemon it would only be 88G >> instead of 217G. I took the numbers from 'none' to mean that the daemon >> itself already did a lot of deduplication. > > That's what I understood as well. tl;dr Your understanding is correct. I was under the impression that hard links shouldn't inflate the numbers reported under the "Referenced" column. I just asked over #btrfs and while hard links shouldn't inflate those numbers (as hard links aren't reflinks), they currently do. It's a bug. Maxim From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Resent-From: Pierre Neidhardt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 13:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40236 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , 40236@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner , Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 40236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40236.159110503918253 (code B ref 40236); Tue, 02 Jun 2020 13:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 40236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2020 13:37:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38241 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jg76V-0004kK-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:37:19 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:44759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jg76T-0004k4-8S for 40236@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:37:17 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from mimimi (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2235860005; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 13:37:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt In-Reply-To: <87ftbfreyr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87ftbfreyr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 15:37:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87y2p5twqn.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Some file systems, such as Btrfs, support compression, which is > reported to nicely complement file deduplication that the daemon > performs independently of the file system (@pxref{Invoking > guix [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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Do you want to proceed and add it then? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl7WVgAACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH9NBwf8C4Dm/lLrHsvIrF80rZGrIt89g6TKp9vfb0ZszNu9Ebh5ZKFFd9vCmQf1 18AjOEznqNFlRr8/liiSQb9z09LQkl7fL8leSYUZg8MQR2bVcdfaxhyFXRPH067y /HDEB9J4ttywQe50GLOl/ZMDh3RCna0lLz+bbHy8qrM4mVK+3iyAsSZPHnOE285t FjOs9vkqz8PNGmJDKG+jDs5umMEUw26vFyXLtWf2dQHG2E4Jf2DxUdlfTROMsUMY GLtB3p1GkCZZvPYYmuujcXHWBnb3bAqDync4Z8+YRtrJytOM33sCQJLAsUh4gzt4 RXg1EOO/ZGmrgd0IX1oYw1nY7VxI3w== =oMHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: bug#40236: closed (Re: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition.) Message-ID: References: <87y2p3kjgl.fsf@gnu.org> <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 40236 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix-patches X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 40236@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 20:02:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1591214522-3267-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1591214522-3267-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #40236: [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for roo= t partition. which was filed against the guix-patches package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 40236@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 40236: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D40236 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1591214522-3267-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 40236-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2020 20:01:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jgZZf-0000pk-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 16:01:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jgZZd-0000pU-2K for 40236-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 16:01:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jgZZV-0004nx-Fp; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 16:01:09 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=42026 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jgZZN-0007vm-Aj; Wed, 03 Jun 2020 16:01:08 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. References: <87lfnesxp6.fsf@gnu.org> <87pncqbbp5.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87zhbuqpns.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2rc6nuk.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1x0welb.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s3wz7d.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o8s2k6lr.fsf@gmail.com> <20200409201244.GR1518@E5400> <87o8rzvlg9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20200410082425.GA1518@E5400> <87eesvvhim.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87h7xmiz96.fsf@gmail.com> <87lfmya78b.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y2p83650.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87ftbfreyr.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2p5twqn.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 16 Prairial an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 22:00:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2p5twqn.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Tue, 02 Jun 2020 15:37:04 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2p3kjgl.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40236-done Cc: Jonathan Brielmaier , 40236-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner , Maxim Cournoyer X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Pierre Neidhardt skribis: >> Some file systems, such as Btrfs, support compression, which is >> reported to nicely complement file deduplication that the daemon >> performs independently of the file system (@pxref{Invoking >> guix-daemon}). > > Looks good to me! Do you want to proceed and add it then? I pushed something in b6c445931e85c07286a79bc9c80fdc956d58b1e2. I suggest we revisit the question of the default/recommended file system in several months, a year or so. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. ------------=_1591214522-3267-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2020 08:35:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jHNzI-0001uX-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:35:41 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jHNzH-0001uP-EF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:35:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jHNzG-0008B4-DW for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:35:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jHNzF-0005pj-1L for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:35:37 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:58727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jHNzE-0005oe-S9 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:35:36 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 78.199.129.170 Received: from localhost.localdomain (moi44-1-78-199-129-170.fbx.proxad.net [78.199.129.170]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D76751C0009 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:35:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: guix-patches@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 09:35:24 +0100 Message-Id: <20200326083524.20275-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.25.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.197 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) * gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl: Adjust root file-system to use Btrfs. --- gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl b/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl index 3931bad60d..e61e8064cd 100644 --- a/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl +++ b/gnu/system/examples/desktop.tmpl @@ -34,7 +34,8 @@ (list (file-system (device (file-system-label "my-root")) (mount-point "/") - (type "ext4") + (type "btrfs") + (options "subvol=rootfs,compress=zstd") (dependencies mapped-devices)) (file-system (device (uuid "1234-ABCD" 'fat)) -- 2.25.1 ------------=_1591214522-3267-1-- From unknown Wed Sep 10 15:50:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#40236] [PATCH] doc: Suggest Btrfs with compression instead of ext4 for root partition. 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