From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:16:33 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#40151 <40151@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#40151 <40151@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers Reply-To: bug#40151 <40151@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 01:16:33 +0000 retitle 40151 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers reassign 40151 emacs submitter 40151 Eric Abrahamsen severity 40151 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 13:11:24 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 17:11:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLB6-0001Nw-Bi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:11:24 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLB3-0001Nn-SA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:11:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57451) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLB0-0005dF-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:11:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLAz-0000A5-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:11:18 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:43720 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLAz-00009x-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:11:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8579CFA02E for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:11:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:11:14 -0700 Message-ID: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 52.70.2.18 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can have a Date header days or weeks in the past. Is there any interest in changing the default value? Eric --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=message-draft-headers.diff diff --git a/lisp/gnus/message.el b/lisp/gnus/message.el index f1ace0eeb2..eb9c79d66c 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/message.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/message.el @@ -215,9 +215,9 @@ message-required-headers :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers") :type '(repeat sexp)) -(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From Date) +(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From) "Headers to be generated when saving a draft message." - :version "22.1" + :version "28.1" :group 'message-news :group 'message-headers :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers") --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 13:24:02 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 17:24:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLNJ-0001l2-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:24:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54350) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLNH-0001kn-Gr for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:24:00 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLN8-0001H2-QP; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:23:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:23:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:11:14 -0700") Message-ID: <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as > part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there > means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ericabrahamsen.net] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as > part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there > means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is > first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed > messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can > have a Date header days or weeks in the past. > > Is there any interest in changing the default value? Sure; makes sense to me. Perhaps it should be documented in the "postpone" command(s), too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 13:31:29 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 17:31:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLUW-000212-Nn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:31:28 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:53754 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLUU-00020o-SI for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:31:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8667FA02E; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:31:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:31:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:23:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as >> part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there >> means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is >> first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed >> messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can >> have a Date header days or weeks in the past. >> >> Is there any interest in changing the default value? > > Sure; makes sense to me. > > Perhaps it should be documented in the "postpone" command(s), too. You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything apropos of "postpone". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 13:45:00 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 17:45:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45514 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLhb-0002OJ-Qf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:45:00 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLha-0002O0-Pc for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:44:59 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLhR-000217-St; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:44:52 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:44:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:31:19 -0700") Message-ID: <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything > apropos of "postpone". No, but it should perhaps say something. Or at least point to message-draft-headers... Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ericabrahamsen.net] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything > apropos of "postpone". No, but it should perhaps say something. Or at least point to message-draft-headers... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 13:55:38 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 17:55:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLrt-0002ia-Tt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:54210 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFLrs-0002iK-Dl for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:55:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 109CAFA02E; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:55:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:55:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:44:49 +0100") Message-ID: <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything >> apropos of "postpone". > > No, but it should perhaps say something. Or at least point to > message-draft-headers... How's this look? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Remove-the-Date-header-from-message-draft-headers.patch >From 951338269aa6b866b06ab59a2f10cb09f41f390a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:53:49 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers * lisp/gnus/message.el (message-draft-headers): The Date header should reflect when the message is sent, not when it was saved or delayed. --- lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el | 6 +++++- lisp/gnus/message.el | 4 ++-- 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el index 8dae4ef5c1..589ec6f807 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el @@ -75,7 +75,11 @@ gnus-delay-article variable `gnus-delay-default-hour', minute and second are zero. * hh:mm for a specific time. Use 24h format. If it is later than this - time, then the deadline is tomorrow, else today." + time, then the deadline is tomorrow, else today. + +The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are +generate when the article is delayed. Remaining headers are +generate when the article is sent." (interactive (list (read-string "Target date (YYYY-MM-DD), time (hh:mm), or length of delay (units in [mhdwMY]): " diff --git a/lisp/gnus/message.el b/lisp/gnus/message.el index f1ace0eeb2..eb9c79d66c 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/message.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/message.el @@ -215,9 +215,9 @@ message-required-headers :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers") :type '(repeat sexp)) -(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From Date) +(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From) "Headers to be generated when saving a draft message." - :version "22.1" + :version "28.1" :group 'message-news :group 'message-headers :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers") -- 2.25.2 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 14:20:14 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 18:20:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFMFi-0003Sh-G8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:20:14 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFMFg-0003SE-Em for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:20:12 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFMFX-0003Lg-LY; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:20:06 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:20:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:55:28 -0700") Message-ID: <871rpmdh2k.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > How's this look? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ericabrahamsen.net] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > How's this look? [...] > +The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are > +generate when the article is delayed. Remaining headers are ^d > +generate when the article is sent." ^d Otherwise -- looks good to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 14:41:21 2020 Received: (at 40151-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 18:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFMa8-00044N-Ob for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:41:20 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55112 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFMa7-000445-Gw for 40151-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:41:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08B0CFA02E; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:41:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rpmdh2k.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:41:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: <871rpmdh2k.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:20:03 +0100") Message-ID: <87mu8ayim0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151-done Cc: 40151-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> How's this look? > > [...] > >> +The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are >> +generate when the article is delayed. Remaining headers are > ^d > >> +generate when the article is sent." > ^d A weird typo to make twice... > Otherwise -- looks good to me. Done, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 15:40:54 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 19:40:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFNVm-0008Dl-2J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:40:54 -0400 Received: from ore.jhcloos.com ([192.40.56.151]:56822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFNVk-0008Dc-Ij for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:40:53 -0400 Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id C11241E43F; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:40:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore17; t=1584733250; bh=UXGfSVr5UYhgVVrwcvnQWl5E3GWYwNnplVKZvckhbko=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=DHQwN0+C0OCXv22d1ZnqDAMrWrNQub/nTgY/aFw0Qk9UUB/qZEAwq3+1K51gXHJSa brMYQ1M5JGm4+MBcuLq7uU997O5yCgv2p8LICP4PUaaSEQzIaBN6zymBURpQgULvD9 FR6Gw3/zkHxezNrKqGzwYl7jAFFItjBlinnJZDHTOU3ahp5t0/iP0DOzeODgAq/eft 9GZ9Ok84FlUh1ooO1UrKqqH/rV4nS5nsR0hasXm/AehLsnR6KI/OSi8102j1Mzv5lx fkU11e2Ndcs121xBAU9gbsUixON9MPpq80dwXMREv6IfyDrZ7N/MkwNUissZt71XPL blZUh+uZXm26w== Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 40DF124F75; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:40:44 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers In-Reply-To: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:11:14 -0700") References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2020 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:40:44 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) there should be an easy way to avoid this change. on a per message basis. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 20 16:57:15 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2020 20:57:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45719 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFOhf-0003kR-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:57:15 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:57796 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jFOhd-0003kE-Li for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:57:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29AC0FAB67; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:57:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: James Cloos Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:57:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: (James Cloos's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:40:44 -0400") Message-ID: <875zeyycbi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) James Cloos writes: > there should be an easy way to avoid this change. on a per message basis. Providing some per-message mechanism is beyond the scope of this change, and I think would have to be tackled separately, but if you think this change is bad and should be reverted, I'd be happy to hear why, and discuss it. I probably should have left the report up for a while before pushing it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 23 04:09:11 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2020 08:09:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51425 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jGI91-0006rX-AS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 04:09:11 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:20423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jGI8y-0006rI-Of for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 04:09:09 -0400 Received: from ws.micropit.net (unknown [86.214.65.30]) (Authenticated sender: pandv) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45476B005EC; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by ws.micropit.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB4431640AA6; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:01 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Peter_M=C3=BCnster?= To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:55:28 -0700") Message-ID: <87y2rrze5f.fsf@a16n.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: 40151@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 20 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > - :version "22.1" > + :version "28.1" Why waiting for 28.1? 27.1 is not yet released. =2D-=20 Peter --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQS/5hHRBUjla4uZVXU6jitvQ7HLaAUCXnhunQAKCRA6jitvQ7HL aAigAKDN23H8UkLchNRFzxEn6XabbW5bgQCghxFuocxZRX+uwwFwDQsr0I+IG0k= =lzrA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 23 04:35:44 2020 Received: (at 40151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2020 08:35:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51432 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jGIYh-0007e5-GE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 04:35:44 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f53.google.com ([209.85.128.53]:50457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jGIYf-0007dr-2J for 40151@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 04:35:42 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f53.google.com with SMTP id d198so7820050wmd.0 for <40151@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 01:35:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dUAdR2890xigmoE9CqEkij9kUYemLXcA9R311TcvUqQ=; b=I7zBphvGd//cb58G959A4EY5BIxqIuitYTezdBCay4BbxsbjjqP5IOwkNs3cm4vQ6V +RkGruwN6xAL0QtBAgPgotmsXk0cWrKO+M3DwDZRPqgQE24ePRQo0TlZOb5ImMfAtTWp 7Fk/I2jMduPG1QVKouafogaYA+U+yt2PeRzDNzaXhXEUsfr3ObKEKsf52sOMjEdh2K9q ZNukG0J0bU04/DA4993rkL5VZX8MQkL8qKnOj/Kqk5CkFuMf/CnBL2bdfXK5wt1OJBcb sGO06eT9SxCbK0bTosgpSzSAC7KEwJDeUEivtKb+H8ABJFnpkE9PuPACrIUVn99cw6+D bXjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dUAdR2890xigmoE9CqEkij9kUYemLXcA9R311TcvUqQ=; b=NWXfL7To4VNKtZNPit4q6BEa037IjsQ6l7IzLvZKzmrMTdFPQGiZztRcY4MvN91p0H pQL2w8PR4KigoxX06NZJqDEhpfVrF3mGQYRk2uzGITgO9W5Aa5VakKMM+/0VbjUexiVp SP47ZGF3OdwH9BisjOS0IpIFYM9VqXXXffCAfszG46CD4aohUh8FU64YxIv/Kmi6Ie8v nmbXk2KGJ+rK6GxfJd9Uwqc171kxHg27Mk7J1Imw9cI1/KGnm1XV6DUJvsfZdiVm0tFH m3z89YLUL+s2DMu49UEyCnibjSlMByDd/PA5tFukI2U25YxSjWCE/xkWkUp90VIFinjJ oVog== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3G9Mlmso3U/CE3A42t3iSGJf3l76wQhhX0Zl6dAsz6i7UPrEx6 Pq/95n6lPl482Ergxz7YXvI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vugYO49cKqJx+HzuORzaxrnwQRangDc5fKR2LxgxIGW8s/AA57QlpAtDVLccSO18nyRBLqhMQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:c302:: with SMTP id t2mr25924892wmf.4.1584952535121; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 01:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:2867:4995:9986:65c2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f207sm22096255wme.9.2020.03.23.01.35.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 23 Mar 2020 01:35:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Peter =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Subject: Re: bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers In-Reply-To: <87y2rrze5f.fsf@a16n.net> ("Peter =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster=22's?= message of "Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:00 +0100") References: <87mu8bymrx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a74bc53t.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7yjylug.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zeydipa.fsf@gnus.org> <875zeyzzan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y2rrze5f.fsf@a16n.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:35:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40151 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 40151@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:00 +0100, Peter M=C3=BCnster said: Peter> On Fri, Mar 20 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> - :version "22.1" >> + :version "28.1" Peter> Why waiting for 28.1? Peter> 27.1 is not yet released. 27.1 is in pre-release, which means no new features, bugfixes and doc fixes only. I realise it=CA=BCs a small change, but who here hasn't released software with 'just one last change' and gotten burnt? Robert From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:16:33 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator