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[150.46.48.154]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q7sm12704491pfs.17.2020.03.04.00.11.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Mar 2020 00:11:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tak Kunihiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl Message-Id: <57981FC1-02F5-4967-A95E-FA10D36577FB@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:11:25 +0900 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::634 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: =?utf-8?B?5Zu95bqD5Y2T5Lmf?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org). It is autoload function. I guess this is bug. $ emacs --version GNU Emacs 27.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 = Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G3020)) of 2020-03-04 $ emacs -Q (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> progn: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is = void: turn-on-orgtbl (require 'org-table)=20 (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> orgtbl-mode: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition = is void: org-load-modules-maybe (require 'org) (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 04 10:23:38 2020 Received: (at 39893) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2020 15:23:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j9Vs2-00046x-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:23:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j9Vs0-00046j-0A for 39893@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:23:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j9Vru-0006tp-So; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:23:30 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4541 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j9Vru-0000zC-BR; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:23:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 17:23:09 +0200 Message-Id: <83sgiow3du.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tak Kunihiro In-Reply-To: <57981FC1-02F5-4967-A95E-FA10D36577FB@gmail.com> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:11:25 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl References: <57981FC1-02F5-4967-A95E-FA10D36577FB@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39893 Cc: 39893@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Tak Kunihiro > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:11:25 +0900 > Cc: 国広卓也 > > I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org). > It is autoload function. I guess this is bug. Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el, which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected. 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[99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 64sm14219782qkd.78.2020.03.04.08.04.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl References: <57981FC1-02F5-4967-A95E-FA10D36577FB@gmail.com> <83sgiow3du.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 11:04:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83sgiow3du.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 04 Mar 2020 17:23:09 +0200") Message-ID: <85d09sjecn.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39893 Cc: Tak Kunihiro , 39893@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org). >> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug. > > Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el, > which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected. I think it's mainly a problem with the *Help* display causing wrong expectations, see also Bug#26782 "describe-function and autoloads not in main loaddefs" and Bug#33901 "cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded". https://debbugs.gnu.org/26782 https://debbugs.gnu.org/33901 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 04 18:17:58 2020 Received: (at 39893) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2020 23:17:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j9dH4-0003wa-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:17:58 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:51058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j9dH3-0003wO-2u for 39893@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:17:57 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id nm6so1617295pjb.0 for <39893@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pijoR6B85HV0sh0g2Zn7IdFYC/a4oZg5GoOMTB3rl2g=; b=dLj46r1vwvopRxOKo/gStRHoS0cSBhJnX8rlotJE2EGzFosrrWSoR1p4YL7wzVYT8Z eydug+DeCz7ETYUiriPffv5xRgZt8qxkA+8p7ZsnsBHVQG41eX/XetpHY4rs+od1qoRJ 1H2zj7UuaB+ibrlRIZa9tJV7A8alPM0y7Jb62i9WZxMXuEQgPqRBmDQVykdfSSHss8Cy RPhkpz/yCaZC2h5a9BMuVIcaKCN9E03gGBogTlsmhbWWBTeX4Zvyp9vQIOLa7jWDOZIl /dY+0GeM84ik3/+5tI+ePTX2CdrBvxR3ap5EAVs6+09WcQMmplib7zdRjeE/KWUKggeE 4bQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pijoR6B85HV0sh0g2Zn7IdFYC/a4oZg5GoOMTB3rl2g=; b=Yv2dAhSkktCvuVsUzW6Icr0vBkLMotpTuIw50eFSFT+ott6xdx7amOc/Nz3b9awGFB LQtpRED17nvhCsdJhk5qgVBPptJU0BS0myq5hgHU7LTp0Yay2FauTukCp/ap2//usar/ f87aduiA1l1goqfRl56HBvF/J14o2hNvNv4HVYldKgzIfElmsXgQ+CXYjF5xhC1AJL7n Rq3QdfHm7BB2oshdHP6sE9Fo5+K/0WgJY9d7MnAcGER/rSO5SpxzKzpVno2fyPTj9D3o tTeo+DKQE5UoczwRHK8+f2d0E2/+yopLHabxv2BeALSXy9ruCuRpJxPCtjUXugRxYzvV fj5g== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0nwysvN+agnYoupPvp23Fr1gsQHgxZ/zhwbCQjACOIPJXd6r7Y mzpq8wkTYBseb9eF0Kl9JRgOIvef X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vs78s0QvNgKouVk6ETvookEpTLjBSWU8IeRd7awuwHj7mz260XKIyng9czPKERACIj4KqAUXQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7782:: with SMTP id o2mr5150608pll.287.1583363870865; Wed, 04 Mar 2020 15:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.53] (vesta.misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp. [150.46.48.154]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l21sm3722236pjt.7.2020.03.04.15.17.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Mar 2020 15:17:50 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl From: Tak Kunihiro In-Reply-To: <85d09sjecn.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:17:46 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <57981FC1-02F5-4967-A95E-FA10D36577FB@gmail.com> <83sgiow3du.fsf@gnu.org> <85d09sjecn.fsf@gmail.com> To: 39893@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39893 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , =?utf-8?B?5Zu95bqD5Y2T5Lmf?= , Noam Postavsky X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require =E2=80=98org) on 27.0.90. I can call turn-on-orgtbl without (require =E2=80=98org) on 26.3. Thus I thought something unexpected happen. If it is expected behavior, I think it=E2=80=99s okay. $ emacs =E2=80=94version GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 = Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G2022)) of 2020-01-23 $ emacs -Q (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> t > On Mar 5, 2020, at 01:04 , Noam Postavsky wrote: >=20 > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 >>> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org). >>> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug. >>=20 >> Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el, >> which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected. >=20 > I think it's mainly a problem with the *Help* display causing wrong > expectations, see also Bug#26782 "describe-function and autoloads not = in > main loaddefs" and Bug#33901 "cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded". >=20 > https://debbugs.gnu.org/26782 > https://debbugs.gnu.org/33901 > On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:11 , Tak Kunihiro = wrote: >=20 > I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org). > It is autoload function. I guess this is bug. >=20 > $ emacs --version > GNU Emacs 27.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS = appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G3020)) of 2020-03-04 > $ emacs -Q > (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> progn: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is = void: turn-on-orgtbl > (require 'org-table)=20 > (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> orgtbl-mode: Symbol=E2=80=99s function = definition is void: org-load-modules-maybe > (require 'org) > (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=3D> t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 13 21:08:56 2020 Received: (at 39893) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2020 01:08:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jCvIO-00047I-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:08:56 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:39490) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jCvIN-000476-5K for 39893@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:08:55 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id w65so6317901pfb.6 for <39893@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Uf0BuyvHGQUEOku4wUyH9eVgwInDgxACau3GvCc8Slo=; b=Bo8vLXs6jySmM9318EgoDIkKF0CYuuN3sIJN9tYPeVRalH+pbECcI5GE+otXasLYly WPdUG52a/RIq73ieHM8qAGWmcjU3lsaXuNCJX8TFMmvxocfGSDzZoL4S71qDjBip0IPz JqUZ5D69NPwD6Be8f3UzQtDKnNtZ4X2Q1SOOsA+juzKpKbivoFWB6dp5T06vKDX7UUJ4 wxWpw9BL6t9yy5QHpZ77ZXyHMEnX9DovODGAlhhpnlt8qai+QY4wRmgrxmnwNTgmL9K8 w3OapRAMSEvkSdwxt3JXp9PV6/dIrQPxkbTCKwtsT/P8TkUepQHZS0xGJA21I7GZ2uA6 rE0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Uf0BuyvHGQUEOku4wUyH9eVgwInDgxACau3GvCc8Slo=; b=I0/3xEEGeIknZnzkBZbhU7LxrorqdR0c0VcJeGo2/9Hr4CFpbluNF+vzLfl2vnmfzt iNVoBckknscPF0qNCGvJyyxyo7W40yrUOQU4lgGF6tq0Uhg/nj8C9U0kULFo7gbzqGZp ZxpkHnAjUzk8KYNHL87k1uDk+/o2jbeZ4McfbrB8tbCghAFVhilTGeXyizY9QYUQhUVF RIAkhgbZoyPXL93+XpPsx4LmS1ORLfeyrLLZlL64hzEcdoLM5qfxaN3EpRBaCS+FeJb8 XKa/MVhmGMQjvwFgwYC0mpknR8Gen+19ops+8M1kiEvn24FijLD/hVakk5T/JcgF85gD AOvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0VqVHalju1zCn41nZr71QBh2EckQLjTCVgoXqcJUvHAny/4CUU oXQl984az/oNHeZsoNb6jxY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vs3AV2P/iqWdHbhE5PjvfQwo016wd6MDtJ28jkrT0e9AzNwriTSxztCB+nnZUKk9HfaDzFIqg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:a052:: with SMTP id u18mr16043030pgn.210.1584148129404; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DreamBook2017.local (p156187-ipngn200204tottori.tottori.ocn.ne.jp. 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