From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:15:00 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3985: 23.1; DEL won't delete backwards in terminal Reply-To: "Otto Maddox" , 3985@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Otto Maddox" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:25:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 3985 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124899958723489 (code B ref -1); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:25:06 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 Jul 2009 00:19:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Since upgrading to 23.1, DEL won't delete backwards anymore; instead it deletes forwards (everything worked fine in 22.3). I am running Emacs on a GNU/Linux box, logged in through ssh from the Mac OS X Terminal.app. Pressing the key labelled 'delete' on my keyboard (where 'backspace' often is located on other keyboards) sends ^? to Emacs through the terminal emulator, but for some reason, since the upgrade, it's getting translated to . C-h DEL gives this: | (translated from DEL) runs the command delete-char, which | is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. | | It is bound to , C-d. This leaves no way to delete characters backwards. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2009-07-30 configured using `configure '--without-x'' -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:15:00 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3985: (no subject) Reply-To: "Otto Maddox" , 3985@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Otto Maddox" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:15:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3985 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 3985-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3985.12496791822192 (code B ref 3985); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:15:04 +0000 Received: (at 3985) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Aug 2009 21:06:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,MISSING_SUBJECT, NOSUBJECT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n77L6KUs002187 for <3985@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:06:22 -0700 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829DFF02 for <3985@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.215]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:06:19 -0400 Received: by web6.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 601DB5EC0; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1249679179.11756.1328829829@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: qS0nycxjyFN+VWEoxR936vzXOUQ55pYYuo7FeSzYo2GA 1249679179 From: "Otto Maddox" To: 3985@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:06:19 +0100 Aargh, what's going on?! By default, TERM=xterm-color, which is when the problem is exhibited, but if instead I use TERM=xterm then everything seems to work OK. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:15:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: "Otto Maddox" Subject: bug#3985 closed by "Otto Maddox" () Message-ID: References: <1252341197.10810.1333610187@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1248999573.24854.1327617907@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 3985 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 3985@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:40:06 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1252341606-21543-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1252341606-21543-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #3985: 23.1; DEL won't delete backwards in terminal It has been closed by "Otto Maddox" . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact "Otto Maddox" by replying to this email. --=20 3985: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D3985 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1252341606-21543-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 3985-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Sep 2009 16:33:20 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MISSING_SUBJECT,NOSUBJECT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n87GXIkK020708 for <3985-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:33:19 -0700 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B8D68F0F for <3985-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:33:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date; s=smtpout; bh=3YAQy54kp0/Bbhf1g4BnX7Gxh+c=; b=C6fWJCZ4AustoEUfD5//CCTjfVP+QsLLbsApq+yC2C8V85Np/P229We7h8zGvtqCSKIbZr22JYU4LO8+4MabQWnXItI/GdrhnP5ydjGGkcwBLf0Hfg17yUqQ956AlRwkNXtjHCYgM+4s5FSkYyEPiTGxVV1MAkcxnnjmLxHCVog= Received: by web6.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id C1C7B675D7; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1252341197.10810.1333610187@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: xhYGFo4I235OXSL6PBil94JZ6OMyLsOgeS+8l6T/EpEX 1252341197 From: "Otto Maddox" To: 3985-done@debbugs.gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:33:17 +0100 It looks like this is due to a bug in an older version of Debian's ncurses package. See here for more details: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319554 Therefore, I'm closing the bug report. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ------------=_1252341606-21543-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 Jul 2009 00:19:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MDO_DATING2 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n6V0JfkX023474 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:19:43 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWfqX-0006AZ-8m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWfqR-000638-Vf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43670 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWfqR-00062u-R7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:35 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:54571) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWfqR-00016O-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:35 -0400 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964A53B0048 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web8.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.217]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:33 -0400 Received: by web8.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6DC8AE29D; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1248999573.24854.1327617907@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: piXmw6T9W2tKcmZwMe3+frR7N4GSAHqL2s/tJ4vYScnH 1248999573 From: "Otto Maddox" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Subject: 23.1; DEL won't delete backwards in terminal Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:19:33 +0100 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Since upgrading to 23.1, DEL won't delete backwards anymore; instead it deletes forwards (everything worked fine in 22.3). I am running Emacs on a GNU/Linux box, logged in through ssh from the Mac OS X Terminal.app. Pressing the key labelled 'delete' on my keyboard (where 'backspace' often is located on other keyboards) sends ^? to Emacs through the terminal emulator, but for some reason, since the upgrade, it's getting translated to . C-h DEL gives this: | (translated from DEL) runs the command delete-char, which | is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. | | It is bound to , C-d. This leaves no way to delete characters backwards. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2009-07-30 configured using `configure '--without-x'' -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again ------------=_1252341606-21543-1--