From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 18:04:31 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2020 23:04:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4YOM-0000TW-1F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:04:31 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:35129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Xkz-0007wg-N4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:23:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37389) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Xky-0003Sc-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:23:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Xkw-0005i1-F9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:23:47 -0500 Received: from gateway21.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.45.133]:31981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Xkw-0005Vr-2s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:23:46 -0500 Received: from cm13.websitewelcome.com (cm13.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.6]) by gateway21.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ACC400CD407 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:23:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4XkjjgpqCRP4z4Xkjj71Mt; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:23:34 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:From:Subject:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rhWaDaz//w5o2NrD5I5mxDstxGW1igj1nYYJ9UYI308=; b=VnMNvmnK7bddb6L8c0c2nURp+a 3OGtvLxnrJ1fP2Pcc3Y4d6jFZBEz3D/iDNGpx3kB157gK7oOj/4ZHlaaNkdxkJRTBmQXCy41RU9NM A+QGlqeWWKBe2mExWOr4vyvaD; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:51410 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Xkj-002CyF-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:23:33 -0700 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:23:32 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4Xkj-002CyF-HD X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:51410 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 192.185.45.133 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:04:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alternate email address is tim@akwebsoft.com ;; ------------------------------------------------------------- Problem: When the following occurs 1) dired+ is loaded 2) package is loaded 3) package is initialized No *Help* window is opened and the error message: "No Package Specified" is displayed in the minibuffer. Test Case: loading both dired+ and packages AND initializing packages seems to cause this problem when an abbreviated init.el is used. If packages is not initialized OR dired+ is not loaded the list-packages *Help* window will be displayed for package info Code for the test init.el follows: ;; code begins (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/elisp") ;; edit for your path to dired+ (require 'package) ;; if the following is executed and dired+ is also loaded ;; the list-packages *Help* window will be disabled (package-initialize) ;; if dired+ is loaded and (package-initialize) is also executed ;; the list-packages *Help* window will be disabled (require 'dired+) ;; code ends ;; It appears to me that if either of the two cases occur ;; 1) dired+ is NOT loaded ;; 2) package is NOT initialized ;; Then the *Help* window WILL be displayed ;; ------------------------------------------------------------- In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.30) of 2020-02-17 built on linus Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. scroll-up-command: End of buffer Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG SOUND GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 XDBE XIM THREADS Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: /home/tim/.emacs.d/elpa/bm-20190807.1217/bm hides ~/.emacs.d/elisp/bm ~/.emacs.d/elisp/newcomment hides /usr/local/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/newcomment Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa epg gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils elec-pair edmacro kmacro easy-mmode derived advice dired+ image-dired image-mode format-spec image-file help-fns+ wid-edit help-fns radix-tree help-mode dired-x dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs cl finder-inf dired-single-autoloads idomenu-autoloads iodine-theme-autoloads info mark-tools-autoloads molokai-theme-autoloads show-marks-autoloads fm-autoloads simpleclip-autoloads visible-mark-autoloads package easymenu epg-config url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 174874 7573) (symbols 48 25419 1) (miscs 40 95 146) (strings 32 45594 1867) (string-bytes 1 1401206) (vectors 16 18756) (vector-slots 8 554228 11294) (floats 8 67 93) (intervals 56 265 0) (buffers 992 13) (heap 1024 23260 1613)) -- Tim Johnson http://www.tj49.com -- Tim tj49.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 19:47:29 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u2sm964017qtd.72.2020.02.19.16.47.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:47:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Tim Johnson's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:23:32 -0900") Message-ID: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) retitle 39682 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled when dired+ is loaded tags 39682 + unreproducible quit Tim Johnson writes: > ;; code begins > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/elisp") ;; edit for your path to dired+ > (require 'package) > ;; if the following is executed and dired+ is also loaded > ;; the list-packages *Help* window will be disabled > (package-initialize) > ;; if dired+ is loaded and (package-initialize) is also executed > ;; the list-packages *Help* window will be disabled > (require 'dired+) > ;; code ends > > ;; It appears to me that if either of the two cases occur > ;; 1) dired+ is NOT loaded > ;; 2) package is NOT initialized > ;; Then the *Help* window WILL be displayed You mean the one that pops up when pressing '?' in the *Packages* buffer? Seems to work for me regardless of whether or not dired+ is loaded. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 20:52:24 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 01:52:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43636 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4b0q-0006ZW-Ex for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:52:24 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:39494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4b0o-0006ZH-Ru for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:52:23 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01K1lIHF067562; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:52:16 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=KLLcP3fsnIPabHx2yby04kiYdhEG1iAmOtP7xXOHoXk=; b=wGBub+VObccoohBG7WtLSvs5C05acFfGHEtgi7htq4bJaz9kNO3t6ngxhOWHFi86VwN0 KYQrwZ8OiPnKHvP8QNKP6usUxQ3hHvloLfTrHjS1SBjKqN1P/ZgA5WLucmoc4TEO4eKP gsVC8oVejR/qroUDK2B2xrMJXVgZdU4xtcW8k4U3SSPWsMJBcEbS9Tg7/+8LORUwcAz5 BqoHOL4QtmTMOt+n5frbMtM/AiGedo00+FmHVwk+CMLJrr3SbjJsRLcPAf2KTLT83l5A ronS+7SV56tjdXRnP9nRR24mdlXzX38BOWnN9uYEpX8uu0NUeDXIcpzS6T7xqyxwRDHt Qg== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8udkettx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:52:16 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01K1mQBa104444; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:50:15 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8udbmsxx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:50:15 +0000 Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 01K1oDDj005513; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 01:50:14 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Noam Postavsky , Tim Johnson Subject: RE: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4954.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9536 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=753 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200012 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9536 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=828 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200012 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > retitle 39682 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled when dired+ is > loaded > tags 39682 + unreproducible > quit Give it any title you like, of course. But I think this title may be misleading. IIUC, the problem arises also without Dired+ - with el-get.el instead, for example. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2020-02/msg00101.html From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 21:02:05 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 02:02:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43640 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4bAD-0006oE-Ef for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:02:05 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f181.google.com ([209.85.160.181]:42821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4bAC-0006nk-6C for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:02:04 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f181.google.com with SMTP id r5so1792360qtt.9 for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:02:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=n4mHOxwSOCzxUvprumHEaInrpyGaxYVgqzXloZswfHc=; b=U/GmKkzUD0sjCZ0kxHgTdaN+7TlzF1BabCPxme3hGkh5AOEkBaGRlbvPY+x9pHFYi/ 9rnVrhliO9bzdUDrRqlKD9Hrhjejn85JALiKlCfCmP2T58MdDsxPjj2tquBKQnt04904 7EXIAaHaGEGcoWeDHedSN1E5G8kYyIYc1XTOLdyliTnw9zkJwsUdttFGVL4Smcqk1x8e zwSNuPf2QRaFVuHCj7aTDQbMcd7ucEvx288kiBEEaprTb78Wu+QWW8k47KOYJla+zNql o0bSiclAJPcN+6UqRMUvYPijESRKTLrY0DdW4BG6rU+WiX/Ici95PtRciHQVSlKDQV/F 9OdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=n4mHOxwSOCzxUvprumHEaInrpyGaxYVgqzXloZswfHc=; b=bDgNQ+FZHITn/y9Aczc8IUtLxCRkZfV3ugJLIwAWC2FhOv3KMU09/g8OL1YNRtHG+9 8XhDKvA0uyNQTrOrcQYwnKfvW59Wg6GpxwxVl+noN0ClxUWaVu33mszO2GqP6j2nd/je ZKbwn4f0+O7R+tGtEF6nHKGNwlgsOW9ioOVSiP4mU34JEf5odfl0M6RKXx8NCvfLkZYi DAmQHpxp2r5hag717a26g7vaUiXLG3M/2kbcwNc+3Jc8PZADq61gjPWZsdT7mADq/brI ooTA4CdJqTvKIDscfEjiCoIY178tZX4hXnZ2tweJVxlvk9SbIJAdKa9CPvbd8Th9+1jZ q5kw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXOIguFkpiDLM7SzDoDa4AgZ6V6uRjLWYnhflBeywj7lgGuKoP7 YbmTxfQzp8zwSD/7uPAy2fl3vyEAca0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzXuleWuuY2NNX5mAophP9KLFZb4mdEpc98MMApfSI6ery5n1gguTfGKEgYDn7fhEBehNqKfg== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1b93:: with SMTP id z19mr15020410qtj.112.1582164118357; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from minid (cbl-45-2-119-47.yyz.frontiernetworks.ca. [45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w53sm1071259qtb.91.2020.02.19.18.01.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:01:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:50:12 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Tim Johnson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: >> retitle 39682 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled when dired+ is > > Give it any title you like, of course. > > But I think this title may be misleading. > IIUC, the problem arises also without Dired+ > - with el-get.el instead, for example. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2020-02/msg00101.html As far as I understood that thread, it was el-get in addition to dired+. This bug report doesn't mention el-get though. And so far I haven't been able to reproduce problem anyway. Tim, could you post what M-: (tabulated-list-get-id) RET gives when this problem happens? (That seems to be important part of package-menu-describe-package, which is what '?' calls.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 12:00:06 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 17:00:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4pBF-0007EM-K4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:00:06 -0500 Received: from gateway36.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.200.11]:36576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4p47-00071x-22 for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:52:43 -0500 Received: from cm11.websitewelcome.com (cm11.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.5]) by gateway36.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB29D400FEBEE for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:07:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4p45jbcT9Sl8q4p45jHvzJ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:52:41 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3Gbk/0d4bUmICVDzFmv/n+FAh5ABWH4aJ8ulBhi2U/8=; b=kvYgndinOyzDB9o9dJvkozrwvm 1kJN7eXjHirtMvYO50cUJUmGY9+NdsuCuOnxtOKLO2c789vmX3Mz+GaeDNiqiMmCMbDjLaK+K23br MiMbN00+yMPfWB0fSpcDFWVl1; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:57034 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4p44-003ixF-Nt; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:52:40 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Noam Postavsky , Drew Adams References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:52:39 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4p44-003ixF-Nt X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:57034 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:00:04 -0500 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) On 2/19/20 5:01 PM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Drew Adams writes: > >>> retitle 39682 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled when dired+ is >> Give it any title you like, of course. >> >> But I think this title may be misleading. >> IIUC, the problem arises also without Dired+ >> - with el-get.el instead, for example. >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2020-02/msg00101.html > As far as I understood that thread, it was el-get in addition to > dired+. This bug report doesn't mention el-get though. And so far I > haven't been able to reproduce problem anyway. > > Tim, could you post what M-: (tabulated-list-get-id) RET gives when this > problem happens? (That seems to be important part of > package-menu-describe-package, which is what '?' calls.) > Sorry about that Drew. The conclusions from the thread were as you describe them. While following code from el-get I found that the error manifested at the point of a sexp that loaded packages with additional arguments. I.E. in el-get-elpa.el  -> (require 'package nil t) or something like that. I'm operating with a bare minimum of elisp knowledge AND I've been retired for 5 years. ... :) Here is *Messages* and tabulated-list-get-id For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Importing package-keyring.gpg...done Package refresh done No package specified Quit #s(package-desc ace-window (0 9 0) "Quickly switch windows." 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[99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 132sm137459qkn.109.2020.02.20.09.53.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:53:18 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:53:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> (Tim Johnson's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:52:39 -0900") Message-ID: <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Tim Johnson writes: > Here is *Messages* and tabulated-list-get-id > > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > Importing package-keyring.gpg...done > Package refresh done > No package specified > Quit > #s(package-desc ace-window (0 9 0) "Quickly switch windows." ((avy (0 > 2 0))) single "gnu" nil ((:keywords "window" "location") (:authors > ("Oleh Krehel" . "ohwoeowho@gmail.com")) (:maintainer "Oleh Krehel" > . "ohwoeowho@gmail.com") (:url > . "https://github.com/abo-abo/ace-window")) nil) Hmm, that seems like it should be okay. What about M-: (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) RET Also try (setq debug-on-message "No package specified") and then trigger the error again. Perhaps the resulting backtrace will give some hints as to what is happening. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 15:12:53 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 20:12:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45913 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sBp-0003YN-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:53 -0500 Received: from gateway21.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.45.38]:43590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sBn-0003YG-Se for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:52 -0500 Received: from cm14.websitewelcome.com (cm14.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.7]) by gateway21.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C162400CFD7B for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:12:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4sBnjmDmmXVkQ4sBnj8i7J; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:12:51 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SorveRvOcvfqR+H2r6MPfZa5RdlBr48kqnu2rjoRSAU=; b=Nyqv4KUyqja2w4Ged9Fp5RnrKw Fw4+J69usZA0hC5NtyVVxmIrP+KSVSOHX8ryHV7rOETRsQoEaRbY3Ei8Xcg+LCT10cN4sIovtThyi 738vvL3PnMReDQ10Xl0ejcJ5p; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:35750 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sBm-0038iN-MO; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:12:50 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Noam Postavsky References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:12:49 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4sBm-0038iN-MO X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:35750 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Following Noam's instructions, here is a dump of *Messages* ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Importing package-keyring.gpg...done Package refresh done No package specified t No package specified previous-line: Beginning of buffer t "No package specified" No package specified Entering debugger... ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; I note that (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) just returns t below is dump of *Backtrace* using different methods ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Debugger entered--Lisp error: "No package specified" message("No package specified") describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary "interface to ack-like tools" :reqs nil :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/leoliu/ack-el") (:maintainer "João Távora" . "joaotavora@gmail.com") (:authors ("Leo Liu" . "sdl.web@gmail.com")) (:keywords "tools" "processes" "convenience")) :signed nil)) package-menu-describe-package() funcall-interactively(package-menu-describe-package) call-interactively(package-menu-describe-package nil nil) command-execute(package-menu-describe-package) recursive-edit() debug(error "No package specified") message("No package specified") describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary "interface to ack-like tools" :reqs nil :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/leoliu/ack-el") (:maintainer "João Távora" . "joaotavora@gmail.com") (:authors ("Leo Liu" . "sdl.web@gmail.com")) (:keywords "tools" "processes" "convenience")) :signed nil)) package-menu-describe-package() funcall-interactively(package-menu-describe-package) call-interactively(package-menu-describe-package nil nil) command-execute(package-menu-describe-package) recursive-edit() debug(error "No package specified") message("No package specified") describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ace-window :version (0 9 0) :summary "Quickly switch windows." :reqs ((avy (0 2 0))) :kind single :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:keywords "window" "location") (:authors ("Oleh Krehel" . "ohwoeowho@gmail.com")) (:maintainer "Oleh Krehel" . "ohwoeowho@gmail.com") (:url . "https://github.com/abo-abo/ace-window")) :signed nil)) package-menu-describe-package(#) button-activate(# t) push-button(8 t) push-button((mouse-2 (# 8 (65 . 11) 260014406 nil 8 (7 . 0) nil (2 . 11) (9 . 17)))) funcall-interactively(push-button (mouse-2 (# 8 (65 . 11) 260014406 nil 8 (7 . 0) nil (2 . 11) (9 . 17)))) call-interactively(push-button nil nil) command-execute(push-button) ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; On 2/20/20 8:53 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > (setq debug-on-message "No package specified") Thanks -- Tim tj49.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 15:22:31 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 20:22:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45919 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sL9-0003nl-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:22:31 -0500 Received: from mail-qv1-f47.google.com ([209.85.219.47]:37664) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sL7-0003nV-Pr for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:22:30 -0500 Received: by mail-qv1-f47.google.com with SMTP id s6so5245qvq.4 for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:22:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=S0m9ynz61WLPkXquFDY27HbdOjKTiskK8VFlGw41Eok=; b=UoNS/FUZPgRUIEaCzBxWV0aqLHFbcNS1xVuOYNsQ5weWVXK/2F/qmKPYqJbV/HDrgM 7nUWj2oSxwpfxC5Nsut5Ucx44IgTx4rmn9EjN7z9OxWd/Zr/1aBIphxf2x9eoBCIyEe3 +IrV2W6o9JxCqsYriqKtOBKQ3x7M9wcgDM7OWQbBZLWWWXUaM9KvEo+8QqjBFsCFa/Pa SqY6wZmhgayUK9Vt4oSA6c1sji0LG+SahoOEw4ju/iRIYNv3HF7lzQp5DQoHTG/iNfHO hteRtIbI7g3A49aEWKZxKLZgOj1ddVxbeJgV9GL6tdGUpSLoYZE6wydtHnubmGByTV0i yzUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=S0m9ynz61WLPkXquFDY27HbdOjKTiskK8VFlGw41Eok=; b=kDqZawVTbKEeZ9YuArENMGD9TFtB8TFFz1+LT7pgy4KZk/ZnvkgwPJpdscoXVvW5YI R674a+EytFlzhjKSfaz7DsV9TplxnrHhUf7Kqnrk5jVbJD3NvXQRlHeui4SWwfvbZRb5 jiCWRuiAEAHdsOTd5P3qFhDnNEAbW7zGYGiTNwbqg8eypXqI5uOihMGPSi1+90J/o9xo bjNHS6K5VK2Weq+jGLFPuzUY3GNZIpDhhtOQD8hZOXyHhQI7cqiEpZLztWHiHP5s6yh2 CJOcYNT3pBGJNe2glWF2MWqpjq2tpjQx3PtDXAC7edBALpWUK7qrqVzEAScxUT5VB0za s57A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVpY/ZolpOa6Gq9kcbkC1aYlbs5GjN/7abBznhbQNwoG+qbr1bj /YYkk7dCsKslq3bQONhs+MY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxckbRgmAnYpT0znPi4eYxTmDsJ3OwNV1oM988jcqf2Zycl5wIC2LkFbcneG2c51YXR8vR6Yw== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:f98e:: with SMTP id t14mr26880914qvn.74.1582230144325; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhost2 (CPE001143542e1f-CMf81d0f809fa0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z16sm359067qkg.87.2020.02.20.12.22.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:22:23 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:22:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> (Tim Johnson's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:12:49 -0900") Message-ID: <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Tim Johnson writes: > (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) > just returns t > message("No package specified") > describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary... > package-menu-describe-package() Hmm, very strange. Could you step through describe-package with edebug, and see how this condition is getting taken, even though package-desc-p should apparently be returning t? (if (not (or (package-desc-p package) (and package (symbolp package)))) (message "No package specified") From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 16:16:46 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 21:16:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45990 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tBe-0005Eq-AS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:16:46 -0500 Received: from gateway22.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.47.79]:17533) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tBc-0005Eh-DG for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:16:44 -0500 Received: from cm12.websitewelcome.com (cm12.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.8]) by gateway22.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCCDE0C9 for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:16:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4tBbj7FBCvBMd4tBbj4GtX; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:16:43 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PSwCmfN++vSQ5M1NAuCFa0IoGE3wRRuxWtclb7oneHs=; b=dtDssWIZIzWsrGbeAK5lbzAdbX RnRLDIlfMImxeqHI+lmqeKMTQYciOaUtcpN/aYzTBQVeQ+POYQGzlUwRoXGElMqCzEcM+y1/dZN0w wvxgmWRtvjZ7F7k3kH+TWk4yr; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:37398 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tBb-004IL3-8s; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:16:43 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Noam Postavsky References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:16:41 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4tBb-004IL3-8s X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:37398 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Noam, I am not familiar with edebug. Can you give me some more code examples? On 2/20/20 11:22 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Tim Johnson writes: > >> (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) >> just returns t >> message("No package specified") >> describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary... >> package-menu-describe-package() > Hmm, very strange. Could you step through describe-package with edebug, > and see how this condition is getting taken, even though package-desc-p > should apparently be returning t? > > (if (not (or (package-desc-p package) (and package (symbolp package)))) > (message "No package specified") > > -- Tim tj49.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 16:30:54 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 21:30:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tPK-0005bc-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:30:54 -0500 Received: from mail-qv1-f53.google.com ([209.85.219.53]:39667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tPJ-0005bM-1d for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:30:53 -0500 Received: by mail-qv1-f53.google.com with SMTP id y8so97273qvk.6 for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:30:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Kng0KU8/6euOB7YWqhBdPf7X6XXvcJf9dkP9ck/WZls=; b=L0Ss4/ivhrz8N1ebHqnOy8eHunssbY8Ho5IQaFBeDxx+ij7hP6yiEJVCr+V7E8AkGg FCEekphrXdiwas6uUO0rQeAVcLLM4KL09X8h9dfZ6JlvJuqM8J0sMWPRXEQQl4Ezb4lE hdJr6IUTgZ0M4nZOD5v4bw4yA+dEFBoj++CAOsNPvF1L+/6yYlp1CO/+CZtcj5Szm9O0 QWytvI06JG8bLFhkSkxwbSl9LdLnxsYqf499uQ9thiSRELGyzyutFrssH944L9B94I8A fdjgaWZvhLokGoysMBHPYsSrme7x//+545BsF7NAhRUPT0/51q5zCeY/LRJOTWyT4T5d NPjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Kng0KU8/6euOB7YWqhBdPf7X6XXvcJf9dkP9ck/WZls=; b=UXGV8Ow5pn6Bq6g2jcqsFyc1IOuURoS/kYaKGkOsTWqxYoWZIkye7ruELII/ZHEZr7 ciIGARXPZfFhmt2yfhkR69OlL+TBxn5Tj5oH0ftBPHaC+H/qZtGtkEZq74uROv7tO9So onq7lfIH6TmPtu66sWhzxE+Ab+2Oqkx7tFmdb9O7YGsnyOmqRK8ZYbHFdc7g17WvbN3p Vh2t/BiLi5QKL4RxOaPQOM+0BdZVRadSrgERcKWurXhe1a9hFfLvnzarhfYyZbzX62OJ VVbfJ1Yzg8JMFb4w9qhatecxJOQjYSlPqLlHeskt0vEnUs/smPJNcvTBPJxGHUhCBTFF 9JFg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZBiyGWTBK+Iyc2ff0Rjfq+zokX/IAgJRBMf5rlWmnsZPYpfrf 8NAXhk4h12ZEnWf3XKXcW0M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwjYuZlKK16eeikJIuPS833ALCGQF4Eou89bEYdyzzwqKKxhYAGcpLuhmYeVjeyLU58MRLYrg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:16ce:: with SMTP id d14mr25936101qvz.151.1582234247594; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhost2 (CPE001143542e1f-CMf81d0f809fa0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g2sm445480qkb.27.2020.02.20.13.30.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:30:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Tim Johnson's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:16:41 -0900") Message-ID: <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Tim Johnson writes: > Noam, I am not familiar with edebug. > > Can you give me some more code examples? Basically just put point on the source code of describe-package, and hit C-u C-M-x, that will instrument the function. Then run package-menu-describe-package with "?" or however, and you will stop in describe-package. Press space to step through each expression. > On 2/20/20 11:22 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: >> Tim Johnson writes: >> >>> (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) >>> just returns t >>> message("No package specified") >>> describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary... >>> package-menu-describe-package() >> Hmm, very strange. Could you step through describe-package with edebug, >> and see how this condition is getting taken, even though package-desc-p >> should apparently be returning t? >> >> (if (not (or (package-desc-p package) (and package (symbolp package)))) >> (message "No package specified") >> >> From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 18:15:54 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 23:15:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46067 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4v2w-0003mQ-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:15:54 -0500 Received: from gateway24.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.50.252]:43671) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4v2u-0003mG-A0 for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:15:52 -0500 Received: from cm11.websitewelcome.com (cm11.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.5]) by gateway24.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10C8E25E for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:14:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4v1RjkFXASl8q4v1RjQUu4; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:14:21 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2ALSGlxrpBLvOz5Sg4gSGxcHPgthoOUajpwDJb9CGxA=; b=PURDRisasVfIHHdOdTBjJWU4Cw PPI62h+SN10uGKqkCbjbQw9ZEGuLWxZa2b3Dpf2/8Z9RZ1xFzJM9vKlRoD33qtAscIQOJVv8aybDB d+kZ85GBr4F2P/yP6RdhF+53O; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:44046 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4v1R-001y5j-8R; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:14:21 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Noam Postavsky References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: <2816c611-221b-6880-e020-28a2b3b1883b@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:14:20 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4v1R-001y5j-8R X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:44046 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) I'm sorry, but I am not seeing anything that edifies me. Pressing SPC does take me through the function, but the edebug instrumentation ends at the end of defun without showing me anything that I could share. But, there is something else that may be helpful: The source code I am directed to is .emacs.d/elpa/help-fns+-20170223.733/help-fns+.el Does it not appear that I am executing an override function perhaps from an older version of the helps-fns+ package? Before I look for an upgrade, I wanted all concerned to read this in case you have other analysis in mind. On 2/20/20 12:30 PM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Tim Johnson writes: > >> Noam, I am not familiar with edebug. >> >> Can you give me some more code examples? > Basically just put point on the source code of describe-package, and hit > C-u C-M-x, that will instrument the function. Then run > package-menu-describe-package with "?" or however, and you will stop in > describe-package. Press space to step through each expression. > >> On 2/20/20 11:22 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: >>> Tim Johnson writes: >>> >>>> (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) >>>> just returns t >>>> message("No package specified") >>>> describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary... >>>> package-menu-describe-package() >>> Hmm, very strange. Could you step through describe-package with edebug, >>> and see how this condition is getting taken, even though package-desc-p >>> should apparently be returning t? >>> >>> (if (not (or (package-desc-p package) (and package (symbolp package)))) >>> (message "No package specified") >>> >>> -- Tim tj49.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 18:38:46 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 23:38:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46093 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4vP4-0004NJ-3a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from gateway36.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.185.36]:26198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4vP2-0004NA-6g for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:38:44 -0500 Received: from cm17.websitewelcome.com (cm17.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.20]) by gateway36.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FAB40245C72 for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:53:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 4vP1jEqXGAGTX4vP1jPMV3; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:38:43 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=b6RktHEHU87HDuO0eck1MZNNxVJ+yVBAXA1qOYrVHqg=; b=oF1ulfJpxduPkFdrVLRWNpuMdH hIYLbiVa40HlRVAPdy+m9AYRulBQepMteLHiaIWNA2QftjOeijsfuHeXBLKGJr8dtI933PxttXTM+ CUNMmZusm3m0pOdiMe6qc8F89; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:44818 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4vP0-002Nf4-Tb; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:38:42 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Noam Postavsky References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:38:41 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j4vP0-002Nf4-Tb X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:44818 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Possible solution! I loaded emacs -q, ran list-packages, look at the info for help-fns+.el and understood that it would need to be re-compiled with a newer version of emacs. I just re-compiled help-fns+.el as per instructions in the info file and the problem is solved. I have much snow to shovel here - may not check email for several hours. Hopefully further testing won't turn up further hiccups. cheers tim On 2/20/20 12:30 PM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Tim Johnson writes: > >> Noam, I am not familiar with edebug. >> >> Can you give me some more code examples? > Basically just put point on the source code of describe-package, and hit > C-u C-M-x, that will instrument the function. Then run > package-menu-describe-package with "?" or however, and you will stop in > describe-package. Press space to step through each expression. > >> On 2/20/20 11:22 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: >>> Tim Johnson writes: >>> >>>> (package-desc-p (tabulated-list-get-id)) >>>> just returns t >>>> message("No package specified") >>>> describe-package(#s(package-desc :name ack :version (1 8) :summary... >>>> package-menu-describe-package() >>> Hmm, very strange. Could you step through describe-package with edebug, >>> and see how this condition is getting taken, even though package-desc-p >>> should apparently be returning t? >>> >>> (if (not (or (package-desc-p package) (and package (symbolp package)))) >>> (message "No package specified") >>> >>> -- Tim tj49.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 19:02:49 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2020 00:02:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4vmL-0004zP-5P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:02:49 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:55640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4vmJ-0004zC-HF for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:02:48 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L011U9136494; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:02:41 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=yLRPiK0Uky8IGQ+CNDvnSvyRhDtd7QjXigotFwdXM0g=; b=k756roZvMqlVqsD/tTPT9ScRdpaPJkfVZGzkyUpBPMPoDWiJSDLb7iPXjGnkHhi2BJfG ckxgzE0YQsve0so7CQEYCzNwLcJV4xJV52thkb2bcPptOyU//4+Aq5X0waioYaKamWx1 /mKsbJcmmCOp7hkvsGvDRqTC6xWhoXKHWaaw1HeZGVe/2rYvLKiCHijjFrUArjjlJebj GxFK1jwKKLytSIz4rVMAnaE1c/uoUrTOw0hLbCXCrr3OPDzQJfvrA5YV9qRBT3V7wGdl AeX+MJaSzgoutRjOBqvgVxrujuj1HHSZJZChi98wY9t+AtGITBOcChXiMM7Cboi2VxxC IA== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8uddd7n4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:02:41 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L01iLp107152; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:02:41 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8ud51w62-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:02:41 +0000 Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 01L02eY5015278; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:02:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:02:39 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Tim Johnson , Noam Postavsky Subject: RE: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> In-Reply-To: <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4966.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200177 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200176 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Possible solution! >=20 > I loaded emacs -q, ran list-packages, look at the info for help-fns+.el > and understood that it would need to be re-compiled with a newer version > of emacs. >=20 > I just re-compiled help-fns+.el as per instructions in the info file and > the problem is solved. I'm glad you seem to have solved the problem. But I don't understand how you got help-fns+.el[c] loaded if you started Em= acs using `emacs -q', which doesn't load your init file. The original problem really needs to have been narrowed down to only the li= brary (or libraries) really necessary to repro the problem. To be clear, what happens if you ensure that you load _only_ el-get.el, and= not help-fns+.el or dired+.el or anything else? E.g., use just `M-x load-= file' for elget.el (or elget.elc). =20 > I have much snow to shovel here - may not check email for several hours. That'll probably keep you healthy. Good shoveling. 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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t4sm753167qkm.82.2020.02.20.17.25.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:25:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:02:39 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87ftf4bukm.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Tim Johnson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) retitle 39682 describe-package disabled by help-fns+.elc compiled in older Emacs tags 39682 = notabug close 39682 quit Drew Adams writes: >> Possible solution! >> >> I loaded emacs -q, ran list-packages, look at the info for help-fns+.el >> and understood that it would need to be re-compiled with a newer version >> of emacs. >> >> I just re-compiled help-fns+.el as per instructions in the info file and >> the problem is solved. > > I'm glad you seem to have solved the problem. > > But I don't understand how you got help-fns+.el[c] loaded if you > started Emacs using `emacs -q', which doesn't load your init file. > > The original problem really needs to have been narrowed down to only > the library (or libraries) really necessary to repro the problem. Yeah, help-fns+ wasn't even mentioned until now, so this was all a bit surprising. However, looking at its code I think it's clear what the problem was: help-fns+ has a copy of the describe-package function, which it overrides the builtin one with. The describe-package code contains a call to package-desc-p which is an inline function. So a help-fns+.elc produced by an older version of Emacs uses an older version of package-desc-p that gives the wrong answer when handed a new-style struct (i.e., a record rather than a vector). That's why it decides that it's been handed something that doesn't specify a package and complains. Anyway, I don't think there's anything to fix here, so I'm closing the report. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 20:47:38 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2020 01:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46185 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4xPm-0001AP-En for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:47:38 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:42850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4xPl-0001AD-BS for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:47:37 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L1guvd026012; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:47:31 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=7sucECUb8MvljcRxHYIBi0cQlZxGEZXGf/+6iz14oY8=; b=dR+JXqIP0nGib5oGODj6dxEbmmssWuvW9bb/oFrV5a57vZsfVdkRHjhWf2H4+9zgU7jL eoQtM2Egqvu1Djq2uSva37Fb3zWVabZJJOErb0AJbEuz/luOXlxGhBdGBG4bc5Hito0g Zg6W94FKvyh8F1NvTHdUvtwzVnjA/RiyYoOxPckS0anZiAHdWZVS43rICw2/js9PwP4r RFYQSmULWVtKYIY6Nm28ZSCvxWH05BYFQOwadlOsluVXJoZKVaMDx8YL9pDfURlTvd0o m0nlJxkbop2NDqvcClz4LicWogu91n2PD6HURu1BTZcF8OLsf6rbzB/ovtvoN2c7Ype2 hA== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8udddr5s-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:47:31 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L1gCHR096830; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:47:30 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8udh2k48-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:47:30 +0000 Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 01L1lTsn001318; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:47:29 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9953a4e1-23c8-417f-ad27-98fd2a66ebc0@default> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Tim Johnson , 39682@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> <1c501888-2bf4-8c45-ae49-4d1e64ea114f@tj49.com> In-Reply-To: <1c501888-2bf4-8c45-ae49-4d1e64ea114f@tj49.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4966.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002210009 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002210009 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > describe-package works fine when I invoke > emacs -q and then load el-get only. What's needed is a minimal recipe, which involves only the one (or perhaps = two) libraries that repro the problem. Maybe the problem is only in help-fns+.el. Or maybe it's only in dired+.el= . Or maybe it was only in an old byte-compiled help-fns+.el. The point is that as long as multiple things are loaded it's hard to know w= hat's going on, especially at a distance. Ideally, it would be narrowed down to a single library, and even to just so= me of the code in that library. My guess now, based on the fact that help-fns+.el redefines `describe-packa= ge' (to add a cross-reference to the manuals), is that help-fns+.el alone i= s probably causing (or probably caused) the problem. And if the problem was only with an older help-fns+.elc (byte-compiled) the= n that's probably the explanation. The library has two different definitio= ns of `describe-package', depending on which Emacs version you have (becaus= e they changed the vanilla code for it, on which the library's code is base= d). If your older Emacs version was prior to Emacs 24.4 then the older definiti= on of `describe-package' was used in the byte-compiled file. And that like= ly won't work with Emacs 24.4 or later. It would be good to know for sure that that was the problem. But if you no= longer have the old help-fns+.elc (byte-compiled before Emacs 24.4) then t= here's probably no way to reproduce the problem anymore. --- Anyway, I see now that Noam has replied more or less the same thing, and ha= s closed the bug report. Thanks for reporting the problem and trying to track it down. Sorry to all= for the trouble. > >> I have much snow to shovel here - may not check email for several hour= s. > > That'll probably keep you healthy. Good shoveling. > Starting now ... Just don't overdo it. ;-) Good luck. 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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t23sm775178qto.88.2020.02.20.18.07.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:07:22 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> <1c501888-2bf4-8c45-ae49-4d1e64ea114f@tj49.com> <9953a4e1-23c8-417f-ad27-98fd2a66ebc0@default> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:07:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9953a4e1-23c8-417f-ad27-98fd2a66ebc0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 17:47:28 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87a75cbsme.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Tim Johnson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > It would be good to know for sure that that was the problem. But if > you no longer have the old help-fns+.elc (byte-compiled before Emacs > 24.4) then there's probably no way to reproduce the problem anymore. I can reproduce it with emacs-25.3 -Q --batch -l package -f batch-byte-compile help-fns+.el emacs-26.3 -Q -l package -l help-fns+.elc -f list-packages -f package-menu-describe-package From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 22:27:47 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2020 03:27:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46220 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4yyh-0003i1-ET for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:27:47 -0500 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:53654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4yyd-0003hk-UE for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:27:45 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L3EDT5117051; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:27:38 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=BvmI+y4kDpYKd2aV75mnHoEi1K1dg2LHrR8/UvOlZqc=; b=xzgVFR8n6Hh0zcOZcg9PLr56XvMRhf+uSeqUdezbRr0cGqjKTFvWMSAeUqHr2Ra9cENF U9UklNfHvJw5CrGCpKnr9bI4CaIKMqREbNs3Y5rzUVI3qsn81sArtBKjO2RyoL9SRUSP gg7vr1YTBdYf8nM8LZzZrzW6Od8woRR7EJx8YVQHWmYbEto9BLlcYrgtPumWogodfI5p W3MXaU8otXHgBBlNmfR0cY+2C1xIjhTF2WQpbWC6yg0IstCGwwRHSiUlujtFYFzuQ3hX n7sHDsdHIK+gqZXOkMBS8L0Sc0jE0btZfHRc/ZnSvRRuHCMXgMoY0WpZKZT6oqupRwSM FA== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8ud1e3pb-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:27:37 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 01L3C3Ih029283; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:27:37 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2y8ud5dw99-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:27:37 +0000 Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 01L3RaSE015628; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:27:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <383c86dc-c92e-4336-b28b-66b2efd412ba@default> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:27:35 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Noam Postavsky Subject: RE: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> <1c501888-2bf4-8c45-ae49-4d1e64ea114f@tj49.com> <9953a4e1-23c8-417f-ad27-98fd2a66ebc0@default> <87a75cbsme.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87a75cbsme.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4966.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=917 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002210020 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9537 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=976 clxscore=1015 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002210020 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org, Tim Johnson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > I can reproduce it with >=20 > emacs-25.3 -Q --batch -l package -f batch-byte-compile help-fns+.el > emacs-26.3 -Q -l package -l help-fns+.elc -f list-packages -f package-men= u- > describe-package Good. Then it's just what we thought. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 21 13:20:54 2020 Received: (at 39682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2020 18:20:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48088 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j5Cv0-0007aQ-4A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:20:54 -0500 Received: from gateway21.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.45.38]:42081) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j5Cuy-0007aG-Ld for 39682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:20:53 -0500 Received: from cm17.websitewelcome.com (cm17.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.20]) by gateway21.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB66400E6CBA for <39682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:20:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from host2075.hostmonster.com ([67.20.113.97]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 5CuxjZwtEAGTX5CuxjkJFq; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:20:52 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tj49.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZLsSQ14AISitFu0DczYB/RkKZuKKIpWcXLSY8E6sYSw=; b=ECIP0f1ulUWKvyRIkFBgqJMj43 V1qUnmEIxkHBKyVQ60NRDNGnapM7VOdTeKHq2YqPZFxtm0ab7+D8Bm9O9AqAiKrU2H6vib2D1Y+jP 0URJ+lGV4ikDwnGyv2PxqKuGQ; Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:49204 helo=[192.168.1.6]) by host2075.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j5Cux-000cmy-DS; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:20:51 -0700 Subject: Re: bug#39682: 26.3; Help window for list-packages disabled To: Drew Adams , Noam Postavsky References: <87lfoyaxuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87imk2auei.fsf@gmail.com> <8ae1e1d4-8091-16fc-5aca-61ffad6729ca@tj49.com> <854kvlb0xe.fsf@gmail.com> <502caed9-46d3-48c3-a4df-aecb51af9c70@tj49.com> <851rqpau0w.fsf@gmail.com> <85y2sx9cah.fsf@gmail.com> <2a01762f-e1b2-9048-97a9-b03fa0aff520@tj49.com> <74484570-a455-4cbd-b71b-dd6caa4d21ac@default> <1c501888-2bf4-8c45-ae49-4d1e64ea114f@tj49.com> <9953a4e1-23c8-417f-ad27-98fd2a66ebc0@default> <87a75cbsme.fsf@gmail.com> <383c86dc-c92e-4336-b28b-66b2efd412ba@default> From: Tim Johnson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:20:50 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <383c86dc-c92e-4336-b28b-66b2efd412ba@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2075.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tj49.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 64.4.232.191 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1j5Cux-000cmy-DS X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([192.168.1.6]) [64.4.232.191]:49204 X-Source-Auth: tim@tj49.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bW9sZG92YXM7bW9sZG92YXM7aG9zdDIwNzUuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39682 Cc: 39682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) On 2/20/20 6:27 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> I can reproduce it with >> >> emacs-25.3 -Q --batch -l package -f batch-byte-compile help-fns+.el >> emacs-26.3 -Q -l package -l help-fns+.elc -f list-packages -f package-menu- >> describe-package > Good. Then it's just what we thought. Thx. > I guess from my perspective this is not so much a bug as a strategic omission on my part. Since yesterday, I've found a number of discussions of remedial byte-compiling of packages following upgrades of emacs. The onus is kind of on the user. -- Tim tj49.com From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:38:30 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator