From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:29:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 Resent-From: Michael Shigorin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 39651 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 39651@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Sergey B Kirpichev X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guile@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.158197804825629 (code B ref -1); Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:21:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2020 22:20:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3oky-0006fJ-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:20:48 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60025) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfp-00054N-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfo-00061y-MM for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:25 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfn-0000nl-G5 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:24 -0500 Received: from vmicros1.altlinux.org ([194.107.17.57]:33260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfn-0000nK-93 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:23 -0500 Received: from imap.altlinux.org (imap.altlinux.org [194.107.17.38]) by vmicros1.altlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5172CCE7; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 (MSK) Received: by imap.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 705) id B11034A4AF0; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin Message-ID: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 194.107.17.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:20:47 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Hello, a forum commenter has brought my attention to the fact that https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/ page mentions "Preview Reference Manual for unreleased Guile 2.2 (development branch)" and fails to mention 3.0 completely (even if it's been released recently). So please refer to Sergey if any kind of reference is due :-) --=20 =9A---- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org =9A=9A------ http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:29:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 Resent-From: Sergey B Kirpichev Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39651 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Shigorin Cc: 39651@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guile@gnu.org Reply-To: skirpichev@gmail.com Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.158200986818600 (code B ref -1); Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:12:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2020 07:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3x2C-0004pw-E2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:11:08 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49307) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3wts-0004dM-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:02:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52583) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3wtr-0001ga-4X for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:02:32 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3wtq-0008IU-2Y for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:02:31 -0500 Received: from mail-lf1-x12c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12c]:40893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3wtp-0008II-Rl for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:02:30 -0500 Received: by mail-lf1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id c23so13671755lfi.7 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 23:02:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=MHfdPqkE91hOU1nbAVdEG4/MFnFOvhIlfon4HTHoHVg=; b=oeuQhNvpyisCjKoUMGU0tCcDKy4NPWsEz0cGDSbUoKDaRRMKNPhKW5/uKxz2lcF6aK Sg/yTh7MPqkXtaiH9n/9WQQ4EvMaUyk66eE02Jkc13T5++0jHgxVavMeAprxLYUbAhVj 9pkMTIIxMYQTgD35OouLeJMx+S7aLTE/w1zGJ1W1/twdWdCJfgKYmdzPLVcXIqWqjmbA JvNDkdfqivWoO1shA7vqsSHOCIUss82JqQXqz3k++2D//+L19xL6vW3BvkGAjnDzKQ7F hhDsnKPFrkN7MFo5PA7xqhFaFchtYCCLRvK+wRKrDa5xB6HFxfyp7s0zvo1L4zTrtIIl u85Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=MHfdPqkE91hOU1nbAVdEG4/MFnFOvhIlfon4HTHoHVg=; b=VuQXR2jlqKqrQpDDbqzuNWWK+Rf9NS3DU/q7sRcIPSl6YBTTSRThrE8Sii7yeRkmb+ KEjcD1h5Wip/YRhim4wLp0SDuqY/oaBdkT1FXFM+qu0eD8ykTUwvHsxD3CKpJ2NJ9U0E tJa5MEBXwQtVZuxXVZljz3kcdeylC3Shyt3Kqk1Q5bfx0VVX2mjLm2b4YiS2EJTLp8M1 ATxE9INjKa5Ttok0ZhKbOnX4O7dYY/PdYZnXcxTvMEwtsqLPxzYidX3Jd4xnWpPAXi0q GyUiyq/Kud0uFMPcQu5+nQb6E7Z9p1yspZ55QzNpa9GRY4h8IIJrSx8/K57r5bwxVxJT 2HNg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUfq9jWue3wb9NRyZkFM99XMr7xm24auRppswUEoQMUrcw/Keeg Ma2oZ98vP5H7S5dO6R3hgA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyK459FNE3HYBSS6Swu981jl7ls/+zXqhbOVyz19aE0uNbltjlFJdvAHng2RQtquyWTE88q5g== X-Received: by 2002:a19:cb95:: with SMTP id b143mr9711338lfg.158.1582009348211; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 23:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from note (darkstar.order.hcn-strela.ru. [91.192.71.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m15sm1816867ljg.4.2020.02.17.23.02.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 17 Feb 2020 23:02:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 10:02:25 +0300 From: Sergey B Kirpichev Message-ID: <20200218070225.GA27297@note> References: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::12c X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:11:07 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:11:19AM +0300, Michael Shigorin wrote: > a forum commenter has brought my attention to the fact that > https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/ page mentions "Preview > Reference Manual for unreleased Guile 2.2 (development branch)" > and fails to mention 3.0 completely (even if it's been released recently). No. I was mentioned, that you provide link to the old release (as a stable version). Guile docs seems fine for me: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/learn/ From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:29:48 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Shigorin Subject: bug#39651: closed (Re: bug#39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0) Message-ID: References: <87mu9ez4xf.fsf@igalia.com> <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 39651 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guile Reply-To: 39651@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:42:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1582144922-13141-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1582144922-13141-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 which was filed against the guile package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 39651@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 39651: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D39651 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1582144922-13141-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 39651-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2020 20:41:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4W9Z-0003Oq-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:41:05 -0500 Received: from fanzine.igalia.com ([178.60.130.6]:43346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4W9W-0003OD-Va for 39651-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:41:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=igalia.com; s=20170329; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=akahm+yCzA88DXYVS7RzBXP/sKNe4W/E6R02Hbx83yE=; b=WVtFcBpebuSFz/2Vjek3CWVqdTM09Rrc+hQc2WR8t2ClwlHX6O/zm7rUv8h0CY2OZ+YahP0BVze9EGNHKkcdZ7pym1jlcelltHQs/B9ExhWDC1twvxM5wVJjzbXZ1HtapTZtbSLsfj4bi59g/gSNgmaxz0OQvRpCUrkarrmt3n9zmSPMyuAgTLAPsCOkKoozIgzIpHH2j/ZsnUSPk+572k9ZuFzqaG69VSICbHRt7XXCySZxXPW1CCLASTIvoK0q56lNj0VJHV5HlPqrE6S13M36noutwq+xU4C12V4RHZMcpfT3uQ2qLO8Rmi3TTJLuvf7S4zhnDarfLb6+S92gNg==; Received: from [88.123.12.110] (helo=sparrow) by fanzine.igalia.com with esmtpsa (Cipher TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim) id 1j4W9O-0003lL-H6; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:40:54 +0100 From: Andy Wingo To: Michael Shigorin Subject: Re: bug#39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 References: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:40:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> (Michael Shigorin's message of "Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300") Message-ID: <87mu9ez4xf.fsf@igalia.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39651-close Cc: 39651-close@debbugs.gnu.org, Sergey B Kirpichev X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Shigorin writes: > Hello, > a forum commenter has brought my attention to the fact that > https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/ page mentions "Preview > Reference Manual for unreleased Guile 2.2 (development branch)" > and fails to mention 3.0 completely (even if it's been released > recently). > > So please refer to Sergey if any kind of reference is due :-) Thanks for the report! Turns out that page was stale and AFAIU unreachable; I have garbage-collected it and put in a forwarding pointer to /learn :) Cheers, Andy ------------=_1582144922-13141-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2020 22:20:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3oky-0006fJ-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:20:48 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60025) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfp-00054N-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfo-00061y-MM for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:25 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfn-0000nl-G5 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:24 -0500 Received: from vmicros1.altlinux.org ([194.107.17.57]:33260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3nfn-0000nK-93 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:11:23 -0500 Received: from imap.altlinux.org (imap.altlinux.org [194.107.17.38]) by vmicros1.altlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5172CCE7; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 (MSK) Received: by imap.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 705) id B11034A4AF0; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 00:11:19 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin To: bug-guile@gnu.org Subject: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 Message-ID: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 194.107.17.57 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:20:47 -0500 Cc: Sergey B Kirpichev X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Hello, a forum commenter has brought my attention to the fact that https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/ page mentions "Preview Reference Manual for unreleased Guile 2.2 (development branch)" and fails to mention 3.0 completely (even if it's been released recently). So please refer to Sergey if any kind of reference is due :-) --=20 =9A---- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org =9A=9A------ http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info ------------=_1582144922-13141-1-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:29:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#39651: /software/guile/docs/ lacks 3.0 Resent-From: Michael Shigorin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39651 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andy Wingo Cc: 39651-close@debbugs.gnu.org, Sergey B Kirpichev Received: via spool by 39651-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D39651.158214713916709 (code D ref 39651); Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 39651-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2020 21:18:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4WkF-0004LR-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:18:59 -0500 Received: from vmicros1.altlinux.org ([194.107.17.57]:39308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4WZP-00043p-3T for 39651-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:07:48 -0500 Received: from imap.altlinux.org (imap.altlinux.org [194.107.17.38]) by vmicros1.altlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632C872CCEF; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:07:40 +0300 (MSK) Received: by imap.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 705) id 1E32E4A4AF0; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:07:40 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 00:07:40 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin Message-ID: <20200219210739.GG16073@imap.altlinux.org> References: <20200217211119.GQ4527@imap.altlinux.org> <87mu9ez4xf.fsf@igalia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87mu9ez4xf.fsf@igalia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:18:58 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 09:40:44PM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: > > a forum commenter has brought my attention to the fact that > > https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/ page mentions "Preview > > Reference Manual for unreleased Guile 2.2 (development branch)" > > and fails to mention 3.0 completely (even if it's been released > > recently). > Thanks for the report! Turns out that page was stale and AFAIU > unreachable; I have garbage-collected it and put in a > forwarding pointer to /learn :) Thank you, updated the link from http://altlinux.org/scheme (our Russian wiki) accordingly ;-) (that's basically what was proposed by Sergey either) -- š---- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org šš------ http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info