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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 16 Feb 2020 04:38:13 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Exultant-Power: 1227dbbb1c01a01a_1581827893475_2555815864 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1581827893475:1065871083 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1581827893475 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B27180074 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:38:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=XiK3HZ05XS00ShincTcFVwa68LU=; b=KFB3XzVbxnDCoMys SydOY1S59Tps2QKmbH/kCasVLDDjUtz+7Veo9HV/U0oWtelo+iHdrNO1yjfn1/+/ h5kouBopmqxYUU/NAXgKNikjrRqrkrlr9vVEQegccnSMP5P9o5FHlOApq6A3TpYp UheSdmAViyo6H2Orb4/YY0LZme4= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-7-64.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.7.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5CC180073 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a46 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Mention how to remove entire keymaps in Your Init File Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:14:41 +0800 Message-ID: <87ftfbf9se.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrjeefgdejhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddrjedrieegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddrjedrieegpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 23.83.209.29 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) There are insufficient instructions and examples in Info 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File as of emacs-version "26.3" to allow the user to get rid of e.g., (seen with C-h b) C-, flyspell-goto-next-error C-. flyspell-auto-correct-word C-; flyspell-auto-correct-previous-word C-c $ flyspell-correct-word-before-point Leaving only C-M-i flyspell-auto-correct-word The user tries everything (eval-after-load "flyspell-mode" '(add-hook 'flyspell-mode-hook (lambda () (setq flyspell-mode-map nil) ;;too close to C-/ (undo) and already on ESC TAB: ;;(define-key flyspell-mode-map [(control ?\.)] []) (define-key flyspell-mode-map (kbd "C-,") (lambda () (interactive))) #<---last time what I was told to try (define-key flyspell-mode-map (kbd "C-.") (lambda () (interactive))) (define-key flyspell-mode-map [(control ?\,)] (lambda () (interactive))) (define-key flyspell-mode-map [(control ?\.)] (lambda () (interactive))) (define-key flyspell-mode-map [(control ?\;)] (lambda () (interactive))) (global-unset-key [(control ?\,)]) (global-unset-key [(control ?\.)]) (global-unset-key [(control ?\;)]) (setq flyspell-mode-map nil) ))) (global-unset-key [(control ?\,)]) (global-unset-key [(control ?\.)]) (global-unset-key [(control ?\;)]) (defvar flyspell-mode-map "") (add-hook 'flyspell-mode-hook (lambda () (define-key flyspell-mode-map (kbd "C-M-i") 'flyspell-auto-correct-word))) (setq flyspell-mode-map nil) (global-set-key (kbd "C-M-i") 'flyspell-auto-correct-word) Alas nothing will give the user the aforementioned desired result. Please put examples in Info 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File showing how to remove entire keymaps with one line, and then how to sparsely populate them back. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 16 10:20:28 2020 Received: (at 39631) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2020 15:20:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lid-0007sb-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:20:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lic-0007sP-LM for 39631@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:20:26 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3LiX-0008NB-HM; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:20:21 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3272 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j3LiV-0000TH-Oa; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:20:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:20:31 +0200 Message-Id: <83tv3qmudc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson In-reply-to: <87ftfbf9se.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: Re: bug#39631: Mention how to remove entire keymaps in Your Init File References: <87ftfbf9se.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39631 Cc: 39631@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:14:41 +0800 > > There are insufficient instructions and examples in > > Info 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File > > as of emacs-version "26.3" > > to allow the user to get rid of e.g., (seen with C-h b) > C-, flyspell-goto-next-error > C-. flyspell-auto-correct-word > C-; flyspell-auto-correct-previous-word > C-c $ flyspell-correct-word-before-point > > Leaving only > C-M-i flyspell-auto-correct-word > > The user tries everything I think there's a limit to what we can say in the user manual that describes Lisp facilities. Users who are serious about key-binding customizations should read the ELisp manual to augment and complement what is in the user manual. 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Keymaps can only be added to. 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Sun, 16 Feb 2020 08:37:04 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a89 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39631: Mention how to remove entire keymaps in Your Init File References: <87ftfbf9se.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tv3qmudc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 00:37:00 +0800 Message-ID: <87lfp232vn.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrjeeggdeludcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddruddtrdduieeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddruddtrdduieekpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeelieefudesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39631 Cc: 39631@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) OK the answer is not in (info "(eintr) Keymaps") (info "(elisp) Creating Keymaps") however possibly in (info "(elisp) Changing Key Bindings") From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 28 23:28:36 2020 Received: (at 39631) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Received: from h-4-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:39806 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1j7tjp-001gXs-Np; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:28:30 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39631: Mention how to remove entire keymaps in Your Init File In-Reply-To: <83tv3qmudc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:20:31 +0200") References: <87ftfbf9se.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tv3qmudc.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 05:28:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87lfom6mqb.fsf@stefankangas.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39631 Cc: 39631@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 39631 + wontfix notabug close 39631 thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson >> >> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:14:41 +0800 >>=20 >> There are insufficient instructions and examples in >>=20 >> Info 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File >>=20 >> as of emacs-version "26.3" >>=20 >> to allow the user to get rid of e.g., (seen with C-h b) >> C-, flyspell-goto-next-error >> C-. flyspell-auto-correct-word >> C-; flyspell-auto-correct-previous-word >> C-c $ flyspell-correct-word-before-point >>=20 >> Leaving only >> C-M-i flyspell-auto-correct-word >>=20 >> The user tries everything > > I think there's a limit to what we can say in the user manual that > describes Lisp facilities. Users who are serious about key-binding > customizations should read the ELisp manual to augment and complement > what is in the user manual. I agree. Since no one besides the OP has expressed a different opinion within two weeks, I'm closing this bug now. 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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sat, 29 Feb 2020 05:17:53 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Trail-Callous: 100f04561ee34c53_1582953473302_1391137096 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1582953473302:3106746973 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1582953473302 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833557F141; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:17:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=wjYcKb2UPR/vcknhfjWPR4vxoYU=; b=MieTXzh0dgH7B rSaM2NjZgNoVqczhbv1RFt3a2wyZPVvYMsQH9k2J0MQaD8TUUH3m9D8mvpYNr/Hl GSxbcOOoj6mSwEfspl1pf3acU58nq+GB1itA5gCcUJfm4eEyLYHAW82eAMEP6a6m IFA6/Ht/KSqffaheSmPQKv9df+AHmY= Received: from jidanni.org (111-246-84-203.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [111.246.84.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a63.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 821C97F1CC; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:17:46 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a63 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Zapping a whole keymap References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8ti6mxy.fsf@stefankangas.se> <87wo867ztf.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 13:17:41 +0800 Message-ID: <877e06x98q.5.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrleelgdejkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddurddvgeeirdekgedrvddtfeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepudduuddrvdegiedrkeegrddvtdefpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeelkedtvdesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39631 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , 39631@debbugs.gnu.org, 39802@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) NP> I don't know about 39631 OK, I suppose to solve 39631 somebody could use the lisp equivalent of for(all the keys present in a given keymap){use the method of 39802 to unbind it} So maybe document that in some elisp manual or something, mentioning that maybe there is no way to zap the whole keymap with one line of lisp(?). 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