From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:23:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#39630 <39630@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#39630 <39630@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File Reply-To: bug#39630 <39630@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:23:38 +0000 retitle 39630 Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File reassign 39630 emacs submitter 39630 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 39630 wishlist tag 39630 patch fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 15 23:38:19 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2020 04:38:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36658 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3BhD-0002qf-J6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:38:19 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54688) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3BhB-0002qR-IE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:38:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53442) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3BhA-0002Ek-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:38:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Bh9-0001s9-9b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:38:16 -0500 Received: from blue.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.20]:51229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Bh8-0001nk-QA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:38:15 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A87B1A1A96 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 04:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-217-5.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.217.5]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 934FA1A1B1F for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 04:38:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 16 Feb 2020 04:38:11 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Spill-Illegal: 5523862b3d693af1_1581827891794_1400810808 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1581827891794:2444072119 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1581827891794 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3783380067 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:38:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=CAFFLieWELSUGzF1Z0SXF0KdCJY=; b=nvNI1PqONP6RGxoE 9efZAovm0ZIoMwx4ZKYAXHS/fvMXUEgZFODRTV3E1XYwRLhsgnFnXhJH75KLobb/ dKdKrmKJ3DboaA45sAAcjrp3kxLHLG6dso/ni/Q5cVQsHwsmvObeWpd2bmNtnbcw rzVhA/4aaBOOh35rEMI3JAmwEus= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-7-64.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.7.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D85B58006E for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a46 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:28:41 +0800 Message-ID: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrjeefgdejhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddrjedrieegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddrjedrieegpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 23.83.212.20 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) 49.3.5 Changing Key Bindings Interactively. mentions how to set and unset keys. 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File mentions how to set keys, but not how to unset keys. emacs-version "26.3" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 16 10:19:46 2020 Received: (at 39630) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2020 15:19:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lhy-0007rC-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:19:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51031) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lhw-0007qx-5T for 39630@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:19:44 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lhq-00081u-Uv; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:19:38 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3229 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Lhq-0000Oy-FE; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:19:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:19:49 +0200 Message-Id: <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson In-reply-to: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: Re: bug#39630: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39630 Cc: 39630@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:28:41 +0800 > > 49.3.5 Changing Key Bindings Interactively. > mentions how to set and unset keys. > 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File > mentions how to set keys, but not how to unset keys. I think there's a limit to what we can say in the user manual that describes Lisp facilities. Users who are serious about key-binding customizations should read the ELisp manual to augment and co0mplement what is in the user manual. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 16 11:29:08 2020 Received: (at 39630) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2020 16:29:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37606 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Mn6-00013Y-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:29:08 -0500 Received: from camel.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.29]:17346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Mn4-00013Q-Hi for 39630@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:29:08 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B093417AB; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 16:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-216-4.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.216.4]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F3A35341283; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 16:29:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. 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Users can only unset keys interactively. 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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 16 Feb 2020 16:44:35 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Daffy-Eight: 1707c6ca71e82068_1581871475857_2647936711 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1581871475857:839781635 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1581871475856 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545E57ECA2; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 08:44:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=Gu/Jd9BBT/gP+vq4knWY2KlVcoI=; b=lhgyStprt7glY ufIQb9f93AaF3MYiU+9tKOnUI3FZ3YgWxMde3WD755KPO5Wry+lXOTN+W44DbhtM dHKmtkcOKUxwZXO53vA8eyO+27Qoa1BZbHwBb8iLqljF0FMpzRjvdCukmtTY6GnJ Cy2F6AudkMSrLAsczJSpSK/hZplrjo= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-10-168.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.10.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBCAD7E61A; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 08:44:31 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a89 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39630: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 00:44:27 +0800 Message-ID: <87k14m32j8.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrjeeggdelvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddruddtrdduieeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddruddtrdduieekpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeelieeftdesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39630 Cc: 39630@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I'm just saying that (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") has 16 mentions of global-set-key, and not even one mention of unsetting. It also has two mentions of define-key, and not even the define-key docstring mentions what to do about the lack of a undefine-key function that the user is perhaps supposed to search for as (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") doesn't have any reverse examples. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 28 23:24:02 2020 Received: (at 39630) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2020 04:24:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34076 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7tfW-0001OJ-J6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:24:02 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:33800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7tfU-0001Nb-Nk; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:24:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QLFwA/DP+Xzia/blsCF6UEOZ820t09i5FHIQxQzjBhA=; b=NHipnrqMjqk5R/Fg/0YcAjWsx4 gTyDVfsTqJf0dqpXP1kmnlsFlP5lGXeqsJqS0cG0uadjuXmAwhSZwLXMs/SOKGWMjLhtcGVySfQ35 v91OYhh3ir9MIWsy8NHZaXlMEMOr9LlICwuYkrTKP3efO/y8WzgHl21OINo3LwnCTipG+pwB6oVuG vtDuxOS4XsbTcFKQKXLj0aRmSP5AsBc+xG4zGrYyptuBAPE4mnT2++K3qd9f0SFRz+meFAub7HyJ3 hnldSc6Q6zNyrGGgxwZaoCP3wGYkJtz3kg76WkMJZqvtMeX7RFUZAa9LFldf4+ccPXSLX+9dLoGN+ FttxfGug==; Received: from h-4-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:38486 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1j7tfO-001fkY-Up; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:23:55 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39630: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File In-Reply-To: <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:19:49 +0200") References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 05:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87o8ti6mxy.fsf@stefankangas.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39630 Cc: 39630@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 39630 tags 39630 + wontfix notabug thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson >> >> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:28:41 +0800 >>=20 >> 49.3.5 Changing Key Bindings Interactively. >> mentions how to set and unset keys. >> 49.3.6 Rebinding Keys in Your Init File >> mentions how to set keys, but not how to unset keys. > > I think there's a limit to what we can say in the user manual that > describes Lisp facilities. Users who are serious about key-binding > customizations should read the ELisp manual to augment and co0mplement > what is in the user manual. I agree. Since no one besides the OP has expressed a different opinion within two weeks, I'm closing this bug now. 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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y18sm5193016qky.75.2020.02.28.21.00.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#39630: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File In-Reply-To: <87o8ti6mxy.fsf@stefankangas.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 29 Feb 2020 05:23:53 +0100") References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8ti6mxy.fsf@stefankangas.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:00:28 -0500 Message-ID: <87wo867ztf.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39630 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 39630@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN?= =?utf-8?B?5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 39630 - notabug wontfix forcemerge 39802 39630 quit Stefan Kangas writes: >> I think there's a limit to what we can say in the user manual that >> describes Lisp facilities. Users who are serious about key-binding >> customizations should read the ELisp manual to augment and co0mplement >> what is in the user manual. > > I agree. Since no one besides the OP has expressed a different > opinion within two weeks, I'm closing this bug now. =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Actually 39802 solves the need for 39630 and 39631. I don't know about 39631, but 39630 is clearly the same as 39802 (I did have a feeling of familiarity when I initially read that one), so it doesn't make sense to mark it as wontfix when we are actually fixing it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 29 00:23:08 2020 Received: (at 39630) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2020 05:23:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7uai-0007L3-Jg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:23:08 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:38580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7uag-0007KR-UZ; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:23:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SMnppEK0SyjBsDfDqDrq2YzQ+l4Sonrll5dc3p9B5lI=; b=OvQ9OcUoJm7E6iV7jZXECWGXiH Jiq1xp/5zbL0Rxs94YFuNFGRDAtfslhCWhM7xS3jtrZXcBwFhl9QFzxzRCIxJspqy5UAwAaktol+G fqkYn/p/0aAQBMY6B0DwvKgx0RrVGuC2gBTR/xYTCHboB9TGmeobxYlQvgrp0/jv1bTdwQMeFSKJt 26SntHyJZrRY0ofjwcrIesGndDBfgwlSyrKSdwdfPazwdWZNRMPsz/ewuJBpIU6RMWjTmUEfzk+3x esDrhHGyXl35Rl50OW/B+3G6hpENuN1AqFORCnzCF75Y2576QmrIssAmf/fo1757aUe9jNcyh4t3H u1CISplw==; Received: from h-4-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:33960 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1j7uaa-001qgP-Gb; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:23:00 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#39630: Mention how to unset keys in Your Init File In-Reply-To: <87wo867ztf.fsf@gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:00:28 -0500") References: <87lfp3fbx2.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83v9o6muei.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8ti6mxy.fsf@stefankangas.se> <87wo867ztf.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 06:22:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87blpi6k7h.fsf@stefankangas.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39630 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 39630@debbugs.gnu.org, 39802@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Noam Postavsky writes: > I don't know about 39631, but 39630 is clearly the same as 39802 (I did > have a feeling of familiarity when I initially read that one), so it > doesn't make sense to mark it as wontfix when we are actually fixing it. Thanks. I had missed the ongoing work in Bug#39802. 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[45.2.119.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i91sm13650576qtd.70.2020.03.03.19.13.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Mar 2020 19:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39802: (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") needs to say it is impossible to unbind local keys References: <87blplic2s.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <85ftex9vc0.fsf@gmail.com> <8736axia2u.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <85d0a19t6i.fsf@gmail.com> <871rqh0w9p.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eeug9nov.fsf@gmail.com> <83blpjgnd5.fsf@gnu.org> <877e079gdy.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhd2g9ac.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 22:13:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83zhd2g9ac.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:56:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87h7z495il.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 39802@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) tags 39802 fixed close 39802 27.1 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: > I saw it, but that "Since" strikes me as "a bolt out of the blue", > because no text before that explained or mentioned this fact. Leaving > that sentence in place will then go a long way towards making the > "Since" part crystal clear. > > IOW, in this and similar cases, repetition facilitates understanding, > and should not be avoided, because we are dealing with something that > won't necessarily be evident to the reader. Okay, I see what you mean. I put that sentence back in (with "used" changed to "loaded") and pushed to emacs-27. [1: 60418a1ab2]: 2020-03-03 22:04:48 -0500 Explain how to unset mode bindings (Bug#39802) https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=60418a1ab21b86cb2d46470ae187e74a25d33212 From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:23:38 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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