From unknown Sat Jun 14 03:53:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#39618 <39618@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#39618 <39618@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist Reply-To: bug#39618 <39618@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:53:37 +0000 retitle 39618 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actuall= y exist reassign 39618 emacs submitter 39618 Deus Max severity 39618 normal tag 39618 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 15 14:25:59 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2020 19:25:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j334f-0002q2-SX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:25:59 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j334c-0002pu-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:25:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j334W-0001sC-B5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:25:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPOOFED_FREEMAIL,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j334R-0004yl-MM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:25:48 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:55209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j334O-0004sP-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:25:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1581794735; bh=Mc3hH8934rmLeI2XKowqKO3mG2pJbOl94g/hA9ukfmo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=V8jbVbcYDg8OHKb1aEPZR+LZbiNB6EC/08vlp+WaguYr/c/EpxMgFhxkgmKU5sCkz yl58fG5/ItkRn8ybTsLIxlxwfj66XgAcO67BF20P433wPc/p+MO99eIviyqoaPKBWP HBaB98yhUcUuL1Ae4nig+PWHYY7UxXg0MqjshHxU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([5.54.155.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MStCY-1itfg901QU-00UMXb for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:25:35 +0100 From: Deus Max To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:25:29 +0200 Message-ID: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fu9EMcbDCgDlAh61cDQYyKgUOCcxrlD773nGNcO4SxqztrcQYqt iVu01piVpoal+HQv4aosmigsh4V7eeza0SpRwJPAsOMYaJAmZHtqEbqq6XpBJWcVoCpDQwx geiiWJs3QB5W3gtzGgGqHxo33D1AX64ErQpUtSQ+xRocYhfS0L+tXUxhtYcVrRt1Gs4eZLL qJO3wc82NFPGUpkhwVf7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:/rEBbOewCsU=:RKO0X+N/R/+K5/5giYbxF5 jkh7NDHWOJX0R+OZgAF94p/iz+WGoQC3L50f3waaloEFD2eVuzkAChneFNkDBtiJ5zcBCdk8v ECGf4ZbLdelWRAXL/5IsVv7fYo2rw1gyeQ5Pr9nZgoKMmvDgwB6N8PdCEF0WTOnZPQevcUfaY 24QXUg2ug22pa1+RhIrz6pTOrRo1roj94xGVZDdYGGR0Up7LTJKzVcgjr2giXq6gu/AiFRJd6 An3ZddKJP8UYp0BaQUlsJwozDLBe9ojNksx7ERWYqql3xSFuBLsh78jyJguBGQ8u/UP+T8aIf KcdsfmK/se2/lWpDw3gGt/9+dyA0ZKoK+ZXgz8uds6fGRTDUZs92xKam1Aq7/HZV/iM30foST QsjRxpePQkJODXpJaSHp6CKjE0aTfNqrbBtkLGtcqTPilmzUAMKkTGC/M0sgeKb15qlLunATM SdZDKHgpH0t+IXxxTnqqpEuDwaV45HkSWvv4ntbUGgVO2i1eBa73gshX54xCJX+t99W7ABCFK nvKlt4pILGn4O/CuErdrGYP98F3bvZdjkPbah80eCy6bVGCnrMGtQEU11a5yItUDJb0RENrS+ WdLtncZTvbOwaV3kEU2Htp0Pp8309rJj/GIM2EQxHzC4coH5plqziXF6GQiM1teXNYo7TEz6k LL0PCtCpToNNQlnnzwLqU3+4s+455deAO5xgU/VefLl24fj24yxTuHBlNEDVNlZRABFzVCrHZ g6LmEA4A7Of6MsFCKo4DSlzdEjBM28joaMo02A5sKGZJNh8aueVcKLahLuZywfcFAi/r2IVyY dGeLh8l2RupWSY+7pYwGqTqj30Vdexj2Af/tSyNrtAWCuHtkavuEZ8q+0cAaJZaKwVwKFfgv9 /Kqf2/KK0hPfUPsBrzydVP5ZJdrvCvA4IrS4nOiaA3ECsED8zSggIG1XQx1WY9NJoQ0oARc6L /wAVMtjaDenCr9bd9RfKe8NiQl+w3uQrrWYo7NAH/MHpX7LtWFA0gFtJBYyJgm6v3dAs7K5F3 RVNUJnEwjaB15nABZjQo8LXGeSK+qcNVZfqcqme6k81yIXgZfJRsd4LzffJ64py1sWS6nf9E1 1AHxjjNBA8DpgzBrF9nbFe4tMAgK94jUSHyQk1Qq2AyZR7FbDxP5AAPU3vFcrUgfz+ImtmTFg EilNUSTkOvcxGCQIhXlmBdiXEvjhYg6VBp+3WnUCYKD+tzdV+YBFVOPpxuW9VBjQPFayxCqEz bUTpA+bYNj6HyFqTS X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.22 X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article but which groups could not be normally entered. Here is a description of what I observed: Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article but which groups could not be normally entered. Here is a description of what I observed: 1. When pressing , the cursor simply moves on to the next group line. The number of unread articles remains unchanged and non-zero. 2. When pressing for `gnus-group-catchup-current', the unread article number becomes zero and upon , all read articles are displayed in the group. Upon exit from the group, upon "g" gnus-refresh the "ghost" unread article reappears. Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, etc. This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. Attached are samples of 4 problematic groups in the newsrc.eld-problem fil= e. For example the "Bitcoin" group, the problem shows as., - Total num articles: 42 - unexist: 43 - active: (active 1 . 43) Similar with others. The "Rent" group exhibits 4 "ghost" articles, the other groups 1. It would be interesting to know: 1. how such a thing can happen ? 2. how can the situation be recovered without throwing all info out ? Hopefully, this may contribute to making .newsrc and gnus more robust. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=newsrc.eld-problem.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: newsrc groups with problem ;; -*- mode:emacs-lisp; coding: utf-8-emacs; -*- ;; Gnus startup file. ;; Never delete this file -- if you want to force Gnus to read the ;; .newsrc file (if you have one), touch .newsrc instead. (setq gnus-newsrc-file-version "Gnus v5.13") (setq gnus-newsrc-last-checked-date '"Tue, 04 Feb 2020 00:57:24 +0200") (setq gnus-newsrc-alist '( ("nnimap+gmx:BitCoin" 3 ((1 . 42)) ((reply 31) (unexist 43)) "nnima= p:gmx" ((modseq) (uidvalidity . "1") (active 1 . 43) (permanent-flags %Answ= ered %Flagged %Draft %Deleted %Seen %*))) ("nnimap+gmx:Dias/Accounts" 3 ((1 . 47)) ((reply 19) (unexist 48) (= seen (1 . 47))) "nnimap:gmx" ((modseq) (uidvalidity . 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format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting xwidget-internal cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 2203071 256530) (symbols 48 84390 1) (strings 32 385336 68039) (string-bytes 1 13387904) (vectors 16 122530) (vector-slots 8 2207258 171092) (floats 8 1459 434) (intervals 56 187737 3979) (buffers 1000 198)) --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 16 17:53:22 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2020 22:53:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Smw-0001fH-JO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:53:22 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:35828 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j3Smu-0001f3-Sk for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:53:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (97-113-55-18.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.55.18]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F115DFA095; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:53:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:53:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:25:29 +0200") Message-ID: <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Deus Max writes: > Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups > (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article > but which groups could not be normally entered. > > Here is a description of what I observed: > > 1. When pressing , the cursor simply moves on to the next group > line. The number of unread articles remains unchanged and non-zero. > 2. When pressing for `gnus-group-catchup-current', the unread > article number becomes zero and upon , all read articles are > displayed in the group. Upon exit from the group, upon "g" > gnus-refresh the "ghost" unread article reappears. > > Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing > the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, > as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, > etc. > > This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. In the meantime, is "M-g" on the problematic group(s) enough to permanently fix the problem? Not a great solution, though better than doctoring your .newsrc.eld file... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 18 14:57:16 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2020 19:57:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j48zc-0002cW-2q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 14:57:16 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:45639) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j48zZ-0002cI-Ul for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 14:57:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1582055818; bh=Pn9dGbq0Iymi6JdGxLaPOCWQkayre9pNO+Aq0d+8qPg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=SD0Fe/RxOMVs20lajST/6RC+5PNTrS531U9SuaIQ2DYDKbquMcxWUO4lyT81SOjQb C62MTbtngydSYCb0fChZhE6SP4yrGYsMURCNPrhDu64uVlJ+d+104gHeYp1YhCOJZK zZAZV1mJ63qKDAN2v+IaCB8FQ+FysqTrTjkid4U8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([5.54.155.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MuUnK-1jMMax2sOg-00rYkh; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:56:57 +0100 From: Deus Max To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:56:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:53:13 -0800") Message-ID: <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YOik71370EakLRVv5yLiNcQ1J46labvUC+iH/LdUUW3Lc22jWg0 tTK3gCSFZ7l5BGuS8oO52ir0G7Q9l3oTT9BqqAdKlMLEfRml/u3ulinr3ZMaaZy5i6KNOhR unsDUEiMHPbqu/zFyhAfZenU31lEZlrFSeqnac3otUueym5jxEG+sxn1NWP9Qmnzn2VRUXa BM9mEnvS64WDp68WtrmHQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Mlqn4FGMDVU=:TgC0PGmMj9ml+CMX/YaDGf n7yyUWRFMZc4FzNEapciXBzlPqCFuoOFIW8pnE7GQn5ajTZddujXt0f9TVgLtk6QA7JAZlpb5 dK1dUSg+/rwVy3osvRr5Qby4SqtUDZr8Hn6nGk1PxN6EAoS5MMsaAYR6Ed8fEITqHVzND/4g3 FamFvz9G4PSIYWwdtZOekD3kGULkNz4iiTwZKPDHwlTcdd5H9GavPO4u2fUqWT2/qeoYdoanq MPBxm0xe6312JY9m4uJL3ZR1sKcGcR5MQdcdlVshwzk1jL9yrRPs2Av2RfNIvVuTf1CuRBu9K be4MIedanwBYfGzKDOIJlgJMFHTQTlv61Te3zdx65cP7ZMktj90Ow4nqeobbxdn6uDxxDYGS2 USXqCpGoDEOlu/qnr6iSsV6lG0rL6MjYfZAKeBJGbU+e45sof+4aE5bb8E9w+1yTAgP3I8KVN lNjPXIY5ypdXkHKnyefzVFWtzqvGm2osORbtzkL+DgU9oztepxs+/p0v/AmMI9RDf+CH3H9JV Pp7PsGMA/lhvbRt1k1KvqSLTtcVbPbdRVNDyrJ/srhGLeSt0uxeE7MpPOJ32NZCjVt2Q/6phI GHJnevl+1u8UzHgiKEg/ELQcCyCevADQ4gULKcLstPUUuAL5rKcuYqJrYziPv3ZYEZ0w6KGN/ PMosfNfEkbbKFG0YMS3dy99PQQpQ49KgW9IKWnFr7eq195jDWtvgREkEKMDZ1Zd0Tfn8JdMgk h7pR7lVO5Z5EKiYwF7494zAaCv+UrF4lTwAr9yZ1dPp2y2bXNF7OXTQQxhpoK71221uVn+Pwm x32uytWVUdQuiM7XwCNqkHvdaBVa/UeLzaSQEKUIFzZb8Zsqt8MS/Rz4Z1HgTQ1f2t5EZJMSO WsOxV+WpgNZ/Xs3bXPCj9Uy4JWsX7ZtYlVX9D1jKYc4bg41vHEac6sUYNSFVgQzSgpkue9MQm wAepbLyS/Uft5w5UpaV6BP9+c23dCVLMCUc4UhqMF1yR6D3hf7em/4+h8SkfpoibfrAjWB76W y/qn2rfpnp57Uknr/1JqaHlDexeM2bYvrrijz+SsvHnnvNZgmRlxWRTYwH5UUe7379vZgbB5w Y2t7p0lYOHVbqhBrRPuQg74kmN6qA/zqxKN1mX6Cc4jDkhfEetVoMnwQn2vITkjA2xeKJ1lh2 /MhDKRARr58il5u8kTxF8UYLyEnoITkNpSx9Kq/iktnMMkLwiaB5NcaUd0MPziKCC7/985pw+ 7NliDTF1GplY012Tg X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, Feb 16 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Deus Max writes: > >> Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups >> (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article >> but which groups could not be normally entered. >> >> Here is a description of what I observed: >> >> 1. When pressing , the cursor simply moves on to the next group >> line. The number of unread articles remains unchanged and non-zero. >> 2. When pressing for `gnus-group-catchup-current', the unread >> article number becomes zero and upon , all read articles are >> displayed in the group. Upon exit from the group, upon "g" >> gnus-refresh the "ghost" unread article reappears. >> >> Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing >> the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, >> as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, >> etc. >> >> This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. > > This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I > can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too > late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with > Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being > aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. > You think this is a nnimap or a general Gnus issue ? Understanding how the newsrc file is written, should be next for me. Is there any type of tracing, or profiling to turn on, until this happens again ? Maybe set the gnus and back-end log levels to 10 ? The primary thing a mail, em..sorry.. news-reader, should be is stable. Not to have any corruption issues. > In the meantime, is "M-g" on the problematic group(s) enough to > permanently fix the problem? Not a great solution, though better than > doctoring your .newsrc.eld file... No difference. On testing your suggestion, the "M-g" was ignored as was/is the regular "g". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 18 16:37:05 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2020 21:37:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4AYC-000583-Qp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:37:05 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55166 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4AYA-00057W-NC for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:37:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B78A8FA12C; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:36:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:36:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:56:51 +0200") Message-ID: <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 02/18/20 21:56 PM, Deus Max wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Deus Max writes: >> >>> Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups >>> (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article >>> but which groups could not be normally entered. >>> >>> Here is a description of what I observed: >>> >>> 1. When pressing , the cursor simply moves on to the next group >>> line. The number of unread articles remains unchanged and non-zero. >>> 2. When pressing for `gnus-group-catchup-current', the unread >>> article number becomes zero and upon , all read articles are >>> displayed in the group. Upon exit from the group, upon "g" >>> gnus-refresh the "ghost" unread article reappears. >>> >>> Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing >>> the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, >>> as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, >>> etc. >>> >>> This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. >> >> This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I >> can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too >> late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with >> Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being >> aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. >> > You think this is a nnimap or a general Gnus issue ? I don't know. I suspect that it's a general Gnus issue, but it is more evident with nnimap, since that's pretty much the only (?) server where local marks must be kept in sync with a remote server. In principle, there's no reason why Gnus would need to keep local marks for imap groups. > Understanding how the newsrc file is written, should be next for me. It's just, with their lists of marks. The lists are in "gnus range" format (see gnus-range.el), which is just a compressed list of integers: '(1 2 3 4 6 12 21 22 23) => '((1. 4) 6 12 (21. 23)) They are treated as sets, with lots of the usual set manipulation functions in gnus-range.el. Part of the problem is the direct manipulation of ranges that happens elsewhere in the codebase, typically impenetrable thickets of "(setcdr (nthcdr 3 range) (cadar range)" etc etc, often with little or no comments. On my (long) list of things to do with Gnus is to write several more macros for range manipulation, so that all the messy stuff happens inside gnus-range.el, and the rest of the codebase is fairly readable. My hope is that, in the course of that process, bugs will show themselves up. > Is there any type of tracing, or profiling to turn on, until this > happens again ? Maybe set the gnus and back-end log levels to 10 ? Nothing that would show you anything about range manipulation, I don't think. > The primary thing a mail, em..sorry.. news-reader, should be is stable. > Not to have any corruption issues. No argument here... >> In the meantime, is "M-g" on the problematic group(s) enough to >> permanently fix the problem? Not a great solution, though better than >> doctoring your .newsrc.eld file... > > No difference. On testing your suggestion, the "M-g" was ignored as > was/is the regular "g". Sorry, I don't know where else to look. My only solution is the hard one: clean up range manipulation until we can see what's going on. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 15:07:24 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2020 20:07:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Vcy-0002bJ-G7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:07:24 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:39155) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4Vcw-0002b2-1u for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:07:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1582142826; bh=vCkh1wcFai34QUUkjzjYWzHvxNERmRVdo7dEZzeJiKI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Shx+UxtzyiO6YCD1Janzv63GSG0Zs5zoWDpJSm0fmgtr/viZT9XFoWqC8Oyc8EgO1 MGq3uVKOsHSPi3vx+00L42XS+wGdV9XhFwX6eLBRmxWNh3IUzYX2NuiWBa7tQVye86 uAFc7ZGxt9R1cOMMKBI/pQRQgM//9losoxLNAZBo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([5.54.155.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MowKc-1jo2i73ZU6-00qRlp; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:07:06 +0100 From: Deus Max To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:06:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:36:55 -0800") Message-ID: <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3EtrEkRlfculc45s/+76x/ErdKf+6zbFDR+p1UW8/v4fxSYf7PA 0Wy/qrETHJK7XGg8VkLcc1Z5qhzlBj+zRUJ82fZB1lJZg1tnl1XJN0/uRtxCJGuHu6XAU+g PJDgYzFOApI1Fqit+1K/oO7C2OSi9r7mWpQjiNJBWQ4NUW5DwkX+EEjgEBP0AITIozSrMnY P6eno9J0SK9uQJNfx0wmg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PHbtKt6h3wE=:ERpyHyaBa/vhLQXuirFhB/ cWvu0ukZAnzeSS2FXL3LYmBKCDdDF+i2RHlnmZ0Kva1xeew0kqC0ktigfgHcZXjIWlaHCwWEQ 7A5XjTsmgBKxUHYqzZvAHpQbTR37z4+KyF5RL33ECre5W1Rjf6aYCsoE48bWQqD7JCun7p7ka hsNv4qGFAS74/lyW9Ix2Pm3UZg0bfgQEiO6MJBJ0LAeD/d5lbeWENlau3tpAGx/br9cqWHZmK KaExNqOdH0DSRJXVr3W852xC3XXYDr7xo5HhNmB+Fmeb7JjXSW24nS6/F0Tu1HQbwbMwkooDu J/gZ/nR9cohzH1Zg6xnVqHYc1Fd9nBkqZqGCK3AjUSWFGQDmlskLOz2pRI+UOW7lGp8jANhUG LxJhwRHdZda+wrxgpkB+y28D5cbjl2iEatoxzXDWKkCIQZJHtwGEE2glcVw6se8tFyZNVBQub QFAupm1CzPoZu2uG15phIJCz+zMT0OenhgPRpayQ2OVOMZchTre0xIK+UpUe3CvpinsZcrUKF Fv3lymjhJhheZUjmgY1Qx+jDsXzqdveYfFqn+5i3eiBPWKTyPoDWav7sZo3bvThRggzFqGpNq anmbULjLIB7Dl6cwLWkGVEoho8NT89el3b7LoSkKfeDF5CAdJKckKVRGAJzW0kV8sCOaBKMn5 ryHwhL3RdWKXhWZXk7oOrB7CX1c4M6aysN3ky4HpVUKa8boEOe10IQ0IY+2XmEgYIYD67SiBc a/lqbpI9F+ar8dbH1xAd7dwf34JC2V7+VWXeYG2dAWR/b//HMdAM/Hhulz7Ib42TkpdHyGmvK YFxti5l7+otL8/ClxbCwra6LSk8F1AgN32dWxLsh6Bz93RlD5GSEHlNGy7w1WPwxBoXob3gSx UK9VLlljBpq97BBS/SffGbLyyb5IpNobINYc6xbUay4P87nBIkZ4ut2TLh+I/MuI1R+oATDs4 BjiISkcOL1+kB2VI+NI2Gjdqxh4sQVxXd7E4ETLob1+v/WupYWP/Yei/UHc//3NLV2748UR4k k2tOAPb71kRzzXqYnk0wSDd4SOl5zXGdJGB6OEJ9ZhX36HMCbVoRfOY+rIaWnV/9di5WMLOcG C1EFBTLw4IFL/w1CqMfn0WygRh3EPHOuNE9Y8cuURB2PBbhJjpm7sy0I9AOC21/9A0dTQOeGl kCT1DwUld6ZgLFQcklUsEf3aFSkTK3WvIWuPRd4hEaw/hmGV13owCVvMCW5gTmSgMAhch7eaN +hVL7YBFwxEqPsmdE X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Tue, Feb 18 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > On 02/18/20 21:56 PM, Deus Max wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 16 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Deus Max writes: >>> >>>> Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups >>>> (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article >>>> but which groups could not be normally entered. >>>> snip >>>> This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. >>> >>> This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I >>> can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too >>> late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with >>> Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being >>> aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. >>> >> You think this is a nnimap or a general Gnus issue ? > > I don't know. I suspect that it's a general Gnus issue, but it is more > evident with nnimap, since that's pretty much the only (?) server where > local marks must be kept in sync with a remote server. In principle, > there's no reason why Gnus would need to keep local marks for imap > groups. > Hey ! Maybe you have a point here. Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce complexity but also take care of this problem. If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? Of course, some info needs to be kept to avoid the heavy load that occurs when one starts with an empty .newsrc. For one, we have the group names... >> Understanding how the newsrc file is written, should be next for me. > > It's just, with their lists of marks. The lists are in "gnus range" > format (see gnus-range.el), which is just a compressed list of integers: > '(1 2 3 4 6 12 21 22 23) => '((1. 4) 6 12 (21. 23)) > > They are treated as sets, with lots of the usual set manipulation > functions in gnus-range.el. Part of the problem is the direct > manipulation of ranges that happens elsewhere in the codebase, typically > impenetrable thickets of "(setcdr (nthcdr 3 range) (cadar range)" etc > etc, often with little or no comments. > > On my (long) list of things to do with Gnus is to write several more > macros for range manipulation, so that all the messy stuff happens > inside gnus-range.el, and the rest of the codebase is fairly readable. > My hope is that, in the course of that process, bugs will show > themselves up. > Really interesting, thanks. Sounds like a complete re-write of Gnus (streamlined of course!) is hiding behind what you just said :-) >> The primary thing a mail, em..sorry.. news-reader, should be is stable. >> Not to have any corruption issues. > > No argument here... > >>> In the meantime, is "M-g" on the problematic group(s) enough to >>> permanently fix the problem? Not a great solution, though better than >>> doctoring your .newsrc.eld file... >> >> No difference. On testing your suggestion, the "M-g" was ignored as >> was/is the regular "g". > > Sorry, I don't know where else to look. My only solution is the hard > one: clean up range manipulation until we can see what's going on. Thanks I didn't find any other similar bug reports on debbugs. Is that just my terrible search abilities ? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 17:09:08 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2020 22:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4XWl-0005bY-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:09:07 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55264 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4XWj-0005af-SM for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:09:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3015AFA9B0; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:08:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:08:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:06:59 +0200") Message-ID: <878sky9qme.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Deus Max writes: > On Tue, Feb 18 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> On 02/18/20 21:56 PM, Deus Max wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 16 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>> >>>> Deus Max writes: >>>> >>>>> Recently my gnus started displaying (in the *Group* buffer) some groups >>>>> (which had previously no unread articles) with an unread "ghost" article >>>>> but which groups could not be normally entered. >>>>> > snip >>>>> This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. >>>> >>>> This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I >>>> can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too >>>> late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with >>>> Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being >>>> aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. >>>> >>> You think this is a nnimap or a general Gnus issue ? >> >> I don't know. I suspect that it's a general Gnus issue, but it is more >> evident with nnimap, since that's pretty much the only (?) server where >> local marks must be kept in sync with a remote server. In principle, >> there's no reason why Gnus would need to keep local marks for imap >> groups. >> > Hey ! Maybe you have a point here. > Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce > complexity but also take care of this problem. > If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? > > Of course, some info needs to be kept to avoid the heavy load that > occurs when one starts with an empty .newsrc. > For one, we have the group names... I think this is one of those things that sounds like it would be a great idea, but would turn into an enormous mess if we tried to implement it. Not that it's not worth doing, mind you! >>> Understanding how the newsrc file is written, should be next for me. >> >> It's just, with their lists of marks. The lists are in "gnus range" >> format (see gnus-range.el), which is just a compressed list of integers: >> '(1 2 3 4 6 12 21 22 23) => '((1. 4) 6 12 (21. 23)) >> >> They are treated as sets, with lots of the usual set manipulation >> functions in gnus-range.el. Part of the problem is the direct >> manipulation of ranges that happens elsewhere in the codebase, typically >> impenetrable thickets of "(setcdr (nthcdr 3 range) (cadar range)" etc >> etc, often with little or no comments. >> >> On my (long) list of things to do with Gnus is to write several more >> macros for range manipulation, so that all the messy stuff happens >> inside gnus-range.el, and the rest of the codebase is fairly readable. >> My hope is that, in the course of that process, bugs will show >> themselves up. >> > Really interesting, thanks. > Sounds like a complete re-write of Gnus (streamlined of course!) is > hiding behind what you just said :-) Ha, I hope not! In fact, I think not keeping track of imap group marks would be far more work. In this case, all we'd be doing is creating more macros that could be used to gradually hide the implementation of ranges. That could be done incrementally, as we had time. > >>> The primary thing a mail, em..sorry.. news-reader, should be is stable. >>> Not to have any corruption issues. >> >> No argument here... >> >>>> In the meantime, is "M-g" on the problematic group(s) enough to >>>> permanently fix the problem? Not a great solution, though better than >>>> doctoring your .newsrc.eld file... >>> >>> No difference. On testing your suggestion, the "M-g" was ignored as >>> was/is the regular "g". >> >> Sorry, I don't know where else to look. My only solution is the hard >> one: clean up range manipulation until we can see what's going on. > > Thanks > I didn't find any other similar bug reports on debbugs. Is that just my > terrible search abilities ? Dunno, probably not. I think there have been several conversations about it on gnus.general, but maybe no bugs reports? Anyway, I think it's worth leaving this one open. Yours, Eric From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 07:56:33 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 12:56:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43982 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lNY-0005fc-Rf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:56:33 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lNX-0005fP-IB for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:56:32 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lNO-0002ni-Co; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:25 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:25:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Deus Max writes: > Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing > the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, > as all other relevant configurations will be lost, [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gmx.com] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Deus Max writes: > Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing > the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, > as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, > etc. > > This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. Do you use the Gnus Agent for these groups? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 07:58:10 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 12:58:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lP8-0005iL-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:58:10 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lP7-0005iA-7l for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:58:09 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4lOy-0002qe-IQ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:58:03 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:06:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87v9o15sbs.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Deus Max writes: > Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce > complexity but also take care of this problem. > If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gmx.com] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Deus Max writes: > Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce > complexity but also take care of this problem. > If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? It's needed -- the data transferred from the IMAP server to the client is impractically large if one were to do a complete resync each time. The client keeps tracks of read/marked/etc messages, too, and just sends a QRESYNC command to the server, which means "tell me everything that's changed since last time". This is vastly more efficient. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 13:56:21 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 18:56:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4qzk-0001fQ-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:21 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:50688 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4qzi-0001fD-Sq for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07060FA025; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zg6kuue.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877e0jwtx8.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87eeur4lxk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rqqwdcs.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87v9o15sbs.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:56:10 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87v9o15sbs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:57:59 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1yp6qb9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Deus Max writes: > >> Simplifying nnimap not to keep track of local marks, may not only reduce >> complexity but also take care of this problem. >> If it's not needed, it's a waste. What do you think ? > > It's needed -- the data transferred from the IMAP server to the client > is impractically large if one were to do a complete resync each time. > The client keeps tracks of read/marked/etc messages, too, and just sends > a QRESYNC command to the server, which means "tell me everything that's > changed since last time". This is vastly more efficient. Yaar, that was a pretty out-there suggestion. And, as you've pointed out, actually a bad idea. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 15:42:54 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 20:42:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4ses-0004La-2E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:42:54 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:37055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4seq-0004LK-0j for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:42:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1582231365; bh=iUJcksZ1FPqH5sl1OecvqoTbLWIrk1t+CtJj6lX/6c8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=RXiW2zE+kDT6UlTK5iP5PXf8aMz5aRqW/jSaNR/pNI6F8pYF2BLkJwiOFXghmq55V jgFGY5jv7B1q2YvrCsplyhi6Rwgaaj9v7fpmIs3jKzot+W2GeiSHxGmkBm4EP4lW6U WI7okVOaZ5qc8Pur4QZoTY+2KG5+7wGos+dClNio= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([5.54.155.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MtOGa-1jIPOt26Ji-00upOw; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:42:45 +0100 From: Deus Max To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:42:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:56:21 +0100") Message-ID: <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:a0fcJZHdxpIzEXP+0BsR0Gh8kBtpwzb0iYGbxNtE27i9/6fbIDB vlGrn4kdgIldvYDAQemCo/5RH91zxeidZOG0L3B0LgblENEweOusPf44m1KUChHHTazsFVd K2Vg8BiMX4aJ2kAwHPrS1gpNFQ/VZ6R/fxLf4Q3PC7IwumLZtef2s9k2nJ6/pvqzIxmAB/z WlM65x7iMaXVQaXdcs2dA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cp4M2QYAZKQ=:JqP0+XnGZx1Gdw3tfHZK7B SVxrmDPuzdfqv2rn1DNgEZ7cjdMW62sbLVBRNoC/25Q65Jefxt1T5+sfVtbX83F3OP/FWnntO 8QVaan2DjW8Onw6fGlgk61RAezZtuWPE0YIpY87IdSJ49w8vFuXb1MZm3k7Y6V/pbrWAiSA+P //rBF62INWBTwryEx2UOLCZ5asPvhGc9erjzj90xR291P7ytzXUGE2ffrVxJChSliJfCLgOjV lyvqjHLJOjlNK1DxnvJ9VxV5AdTXowVfRTzJAm4TzcnNs9n7hXTwtUPPtREXPAbuKaMTFMnV8 kBP4oqE3pt/CZ/cNhw0h8xcUoJmWdQAp/9Qa7crjzt6fbtWeWK1W2OZPa9ZN3Id63usMZ//xz ZQigE2fyb9ngfP69xoFhl0lenuTTj57V431JcHm38/pU9soDU3gWlGde+RKrQ//s2xLKnrBd6 KAic1oiPJieWUwSGnaxPLd84zqPmwE0pWIPXHZpU0D5dkLqxFswXVM6SP9ANRQxq4mNdWGrZr EBvbUc+bYJ1+rgyuxzdJiRfIIjRFKWR3GbFXGn/ehpE8IqOJNOyshuc3HMYM1y6MFNb/TVhHT LGmMZkSdo1LeCP5TSgDzKxke1+CdBAEKy/AxyxU2Z1i82siUYNC1Qf/vDWx0lxokDrsVq1bEY UU6NiICJn6jkyCOLYBTrurxPaeypNt0iCg39SVi256VU/Kl4MjsejRKTTww/EVLzRkJfXNcBz h/fCkd6k6wYpZqku0tnGM1Eigr/7RGJUEBYDjsMEd0N3MvnLTduJYJWFBG3wRmpjzEki7uOqu UIELTJBTQFQjjAzun+7fUo71VqRdyuOYunPSEi2E2qt0S2a5jMgUBLiEsRtFT/7zDxpN6llnG roBIUT0pRQ2ZiTdEvfXwRZS3IlYPLEX4AWKPxLlLpzteqfEcbCPDsyrvwJDz5RowipWK2wPOh U7vXTFVYAXJ5Sc6uacMeu9ksVaTzcT5A0nMOSATshTtnKlTyxUoLIn+yb6bYTYZiz/RIeseti vY9zdtuemR8nirlhSdt4kYlG4vbpwA4m3EWNAL/7L0Tqm+LMTisUAVKG7s8UXPxIKICrLf1fX wPm1Xv8PEe6fl16QZdF93dtaycocVQ8eWmMj1rsDp2IMgN1GAzA+unfQ8KNA9lUKhBe0vhAn4 hnJR+zJjP8G9lXYdO0CcRv9ls/mfEpI86KcF/zfnEzc9K//6o8yPkyw7ou1hqA8rCtKKy2LIa Wr98ffb5AiQJM13VQ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, Feb 20 2020, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Deus Max writes: > >> Luckily, this being nnimap the situation can be recovered by removing >> the .newsrc files and restarting gnus from scratch. This is not optimal, >> as all other relevant configurations will be lost, such as group levels, >> etc. >> >> This issue has happened before, it is not the first time. > > Do you use the Gnus Agent for these groups? No. I don't use the Gnus Agent. I'm always plugged-in when using gnus nnimap. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 15:48:36 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 20:48:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4skO-0004VK-88 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:48:36 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4skN-0004V7-Bu for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:48:35 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j4skE-0007Ip-At; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:48:28 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:48:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:42:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Anything in ~/News/cache for the groups? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 20 16:35:35 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2020 21:35:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tTr-0005kH-FX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:35:35 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:51613) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j4tTp-0005jm-KD for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:35:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1582234527; bh=6jPa2M7ltSIqAnPveVgj9+ZzFy/qEouhuTPExOz82jY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=QtWVZC33tl+pqnDjP8jJp/dWmfhx+hdZoRv2syBbPFgHh8hYrdzljAPvW7fI1iXMS 1b4KWXhrsoJXGBTNUBU7Oj6d6+J5VThgIAMIB3hp40NLEUUNOAfSk1bIdvrV+402os sJmTTs/0naP9j0yuhIJ7XFxiJxARqjRBeFqZXEQ0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([5.54.155.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOA3F-1ipfs612kr-00OVP1; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:35:27 +0100 From: Deus Max To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:35:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:48:25 +0100") Message-ID: <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:W0N2bV9Tohze5YHefB5MkCKGNzm/AuJ6fcs/CHIwg82emJxEU1a hRt5Ll/HqLCKxq+0r7VBoFaKIMudpGMGiEMDmyzGwi4KVdEYfS1U6oFtkAZsLBaLC65GV8V dfIjfEjfuEW0bBBj2YErXlJGAg/ZC4Yk/xWaR9UJymXQlNueWjEWstuL4TEPZm2tIRZxzzw 9MP3hR6SnvQUJmflK0XpQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:yjhvaoXx4PQ=:QbPx/OkmW2pERjhqpv35uo RaiYOyUH6i6TUsLGuWgtnU/KaF6fhsM5yfyAJR0QEN6DSZsh3l7o1c6ln4jilJka+aiCI5mln ngXSDN9TsjbbxmXJtfZ7Mtuu62AQq4n3uqjwrj1APlvnyV2b0vOaahXUCP885ogQ36C+/JSSn WyrlgGuUPYEDAP4hEoJWcZV5ddnz58YXDQ/kcOkv8bSGu63g4Ewob8brwTQW/uaYPdpYKayXb a9AaRyIlT8jCQuvb4h1KY1jFWfWLpjeULWIoQsPsJIE91rthPPaOq+GvDjMnPVDFTR4jJ7JgZ R6LUjDmt+eyCTXLklI5jrvWI0bhJNdky6H+i2o2jhogtJ4A/h2Tlv/qifDlsV2ffO9go+KYAK R6/aNKgmOBUna94nNt5S5uP9B1plYY8oOeTVX2L8p5n/Dq2AMk3nqu/zCbvffid4ZrrggGjyp IF6PZXr7v4IyVwHxXQ1bbbkYNilz6sPWcmtjn/+44x8uOqhoziRBNMpC/UJl+4RknnQLwxZ5S q0QfGTlri8PD+Yi49K7b/PG4joOilNw1zP4cfelohZPP0y16r81/Iy/M7UEOjCK7HEot7YU9x HvrpwHpXuJ8jDGQRwe5y8yipL1XjBxFktHQ93/pATZT+1ZMIOq+7u04YwqdYHlhjuA+I2Osls c+KrwmqAk7X7Fr5qwKe55Hnm5pc/TAhIR+4sQ8+Lc1IW/mEMnHGfQrJdJavhEoBSk7CkxsdQE 7DDTP5Bz+S9tXPyBBAom0jm2ikngQp1xaFvSt1aG7yEMZwNDKHo3q+gIVsg1UuirnR1rwagrK 1BrudMLLe39lCXTZ1WeeLYVuaJ+4mJIGpy4up4xIB1yyHbLgON7Hxq9smoohk7fd/+J44PRgZ sO7kZZjcjwKV8gXqoeDq7XUuL+RZjo2V/lNGMgz9eQJzsXHArYDS6EvozTdcZhLXuKreUUXSu 4cAWI5dzxRI7FXKvIIIJmj+XYmLSLnjUCIbmq47UHZRdHDdhuOMuTQE6XsMEYYnj4clq8RQAs LbcxKLNN/GhrX4YvwdeQZhJXwDuE04djY4fqcoYBbNoZIP6N1dTEG8RalfQ5TnAQ4wj3xTebp OJGTsOCmgP4FB7psDmZf8nzbj7EcAOwvmgSAHgppI2/f4+M67bW4nUsBqwn7DxLXqtVnmRfwx o42Zx1t9yBr10fRpXBO/V5uxWuoHDRUCwUbW+GpUtmeR1v4wR6kXeGwRAkLn7XYdznrmLi0m5 yx+YtuSQzIX49y3gU X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, Feb 20 2020, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Deus Max writes: > >> No. I don't use the Gnus Agent. >> I'm always plugged-in when using gnus nnimap. > > Anything in ~/News/cache for the groups? Currently no files in the ~/New/cache/active tree, but there might have been. I have erased the .newsrc.eld and started over. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 19 10:08:02 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 14:08:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60901 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jx9z0-0003EH-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 10:08:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jx9yy-0003Dn-Fa for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 10:08:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5AG7nqrvA06eqWweCAXG5S6Hf6U2BVpY1tfK5DTX2G4=; b=YSUKNmux76oLiwu4XyHFP4p091 uGcS+n+r777F7TRNjzlZdzJs7h9HCWglH4OJsiS/OMvybk61duHzYhIwAahsg8WbFApv1H6uWx9q2 FLNjKkywbhfGp76SctYiYwPbxhWb6O223lFImD4kGXTfAl4GsINCt9bX+TAqMEbGa5bk=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jx9yq-0006hh-9t; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:07:54 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:07:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:35:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfjfr421.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Deus Max writes: > Currently no files in the ~/New/cache/active tree, but there might have > been. > I have erased the .newsrc.eld and started over. Are you still seeing these problems? 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Since clearing my .newsrc and starting over (I could not correct the article counts otherwise), I have not experienced the problem again. As Eric wrote in a previous message, that it seems to happen from time-to-time. On Tue, Feb 18 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > On 02/18/20 21:56 PM, Deus Max wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 16 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Deus Max writes: >>> >>> >>> This definitely happens to many of us from time to time. Unfortunately I >>> can't really reproduce the problem, as by the time it appears it's too >>> late to figure out where it came from, though I assume it has to do with >>> Gnus calculating unread messages from a high-low range, and not being >>> aware of "filled in" read messages within that range. >>> >> You think this is a nnimap or a general Gnus issue ? > > I don't know. I suspect that it's a general Gnus issue, but it is more > evident with nnimap, since that's pretty much the only (?) server where > local marks must be kept in sync with a remote server. In principle, > there's no reason why Gnus would need to keep local marks for imap > groups. > So, this is a known issue that comes-up occasionally. Clearing the .newsrc is not the best solution, as it also clear other useful info, such as group levels. Perhaps, there could be a function -for the nnimap backend- to reset the article counts for a specific group or server? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 27 11:44:42 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2020 15:44:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k05Iv-0005UJ-Ry for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:44:42 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:53458 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k05Ir-0005Tw-8J for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:44:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D6ADFA0EC; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1595864670; bh=ZjJwRO9i2IjqznmgHP46y/MccXVCQQMH/iEEg2QZSuY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=g/yw9RuMJ8aZ3+RYTWiP1u/Gy+Xb+y3qT2PKK/flspNo891U7sYa/lcpdLh3sEq5V jbPnEwhA3xG6AW5apuLVFFokmjGPJXCrpI2KmiPcPsgcuiYBKoftMv0TzTw5RDxsMA RtsFytPx0xSdqT3TlnW5a8o82rMG1ne2nsGTzNmM= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87lfjfr421.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1sxxnbt.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:44:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r1sxxnbt.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 27 Jul 2020 13:29:58 +0300") Message-ID: <878sf57yjn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Deus Max writes: [...] > Clearing the.newsrc is not the best solution, as it also clear other > useful info, such as group levels. > > Perhaps, there could be a function -for the nnimap backend- to > reset the article counts for a specific group or server? If it's just happening in a few problem groups, I think you could edit the group info ("G E") and just delete the marks for that group in particular. That would still require a little care, but be less drastic than clearing.newsrc.eld altogether, and ought to achieve the same effect. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 27 12:42:18 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2020 16:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k06Cg-0006vu-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:42:18 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:53267) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k06Cd-0006vh-MT for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:42:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1595868118; bh=6Lspot9azVWUPOmwnlZzq49cu7GQMkHdU/Cvf+desnI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=B7YloNW0cqh+zMzSCocZiCEyu8tZ1dsxzCSE7y7pj4KeRVN1LN+MgkUGqzO6X4Lt/ ALl97E0jHoQn22/SY4twD29ysx82+mDvf3FgZLc0vBZuYC8O1sW8RnHt/1z3EgbPj8 4V8m5lcn/Br6v8t/GwqrhycJ059170YrqpsQMQC4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from aceraspire5 ([5.54.132.216]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Ma20q-1kL7cw2E5M-00W0WF; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:41:58 +0200 From: Deus Max To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87lfjfr421.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1sxxnbt.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> <878sf57yjn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:41:52 +0300 In-Reply-To: <878sf57yjn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:44:28 -0700") Message-ID: <87h7tsykof.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lzzLFCSjm6BsmYDEUbuV0b6LUAKpDxSwaIgfUJWTaP9lTASdihO 18OD0Kkl/Mp4LYvfojNOfjPdbuXO4rqJuwJIucsY2CHvZ216K4q9GMfbZbzqVoOCkuZNWd2 pHJ8BKSOyDDjSQZiFwZkloohS1kUhLpnQwpfBTtIOBKjUep+70RMX6LTN6VU8gFPDHuk2tw s+T3BCZ342sEEOKJhxQKw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:upiOKBdZZ2k=:Ss4fSPlG4yzCOYggaA3Qlz etPIZ/zf36NUNzcRxAmBjXBuDL/XrlUb1PPgib5q0BfBcDlqIVD5Fl4ZEB47ZPR768yn+xtsn lVA0VHcYoL52xRQ9K7SOyN4zCE3Uk81um2JdXXrvqmf0VpqIrHKc+ysIjsMM3uon6NJ5DPtun Dyl3nkgSTua7Pnmx82NmrCfldVqkm/jJ8mn2SiMmGxR0T/M82ztYMN5Roc8EiU3+aLEWz7G8I Ve6TjQRUxf3XlLPjNQNC2+NgDuButbwEv4oTCwb51f752K7hTV2lip1HoTRzC3QGlB4spQj9q NNly/q5UiYczVEoXeYCSm+s3DlaQRI1SKiLTlu0YdUSXxpFNm7ocIOxVFFLu3F3ZO2kx+lTNY FPlpMB7OMCuY/Mb0+5xD5dtqVJWcZrqo0ead/h2FZKgEk0VhtVAlOZSnWOGHK/iZlSqNqjo52 R+Wt0hVxuYcLodqmcb2nuTvdA0IQaOTdY7gLQMvg2mZLMXIJ2cKgm4zMe8aLeUESPvuRok3IM v+Nf4I/B51pWkfW6RhDVWOX8V2A4YlzxtEMemmu80dc4St8lJgz8uvH7NRNBXA7+oEtT6bjfr sWXXUb+YhA7mfu5UQyGOCEVGa3RwhJXaW9EfmwHFDjn0bd+ijJfZZm4rKPCO5sHgjnNEy5cVj TUFv0cbpJPDRbrXuJYvIFbNglsXKBsmBll3osfMbu2Z/WYbZVYHCo0hSgjz3llYtECI3gxpq2 dP/Ea/16GcUvzrbSNkAmaWV9dtQuDSyPzoWOxtb4oaUCivPs4G5eAWYIj3qPM8IDvDtxngn6l Ga1lidBGqgg3Nm7eW8DNkDxr/TxMi6knK20fPX3qVh7Y4iRkjgct6DJ3em/eS9Magry2dim8S Vnh3AWndz7xcLjJVxzRxJQCzuIoN+BEFHgspFRa3jnu6NcY3uNVE+1IS1eiODWSSbwuLAKntJ EGHuwZo2FqxgaJYKrDf86lrwYWeGNj3YuV/KRdMg/ArzqsDU7YbBMbd38zrvK3h9icjn674oa qY1KjnlSYpe+kXAzyebAUMqkWTjY5/gzB/Ocwa4yaUt9BwdKxy7OnTWVS1RTU6bC7FfYCShrL x6VjsF3MshEXOM8gG/8vSynsge9m4mRsEdHLjRn8NDQnCZosI0Yo6PGZN4wqKHY6lHwnPYO+c +b2LTNlmirGTsZjraYHteBdhGVEwnsB1HaQjTe14iRx6SRbfZDC+S798J19P8/6dhb8/9yqsc aJJexlgiPyMHH9WLe X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Mon, Jul 27 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Deus Max writes: > > > [...] > >> Clearing the.newsrc is not the best solution, as it also clear other >> useful info, such as group levels. >> >> Perhaps, there could be a function -for the nnimap backend- to >> reset the article counts for a specific group or server? > > If it's just happening in a few problem groups, I think you could edit > the group info ("G E") and just delete the marks for that group in > particular. That would still require a little care, but be less drastic > than clearing.newsrc.eld altogether, and ought to achieve the same > effect. Thanks Eric, That is great advice. I have encountered the issue about 3 times, though now it has been a while without a problem. Each time I ended up starting over. The last time, even tried to edit the .newsrc manually. If/when it happens again, will use your advice and see how it goes. I have a feeling it should be good. Thank you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 27 17:57:14 2020 Received: (at 39618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2020 21:57:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B7S-0006GA-0q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:57:14 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B7Q-0006Fw-99 for 39618@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:57:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/2EiUVe78Pp6/N2GNsD9Wkv8+pTDNMMfVhwwyO+iWtw=; b=plNhDzBWv3U20jmR/3jbOR35RV XwVV2uUh3drvxBIeafAgvA0BPaqGgMvScYh4IY2FLPvIZv/O/dpZcrm/OlEuUddeyDChFMvYMthP4 cQldSaOllejdblOTFS61jaThNdKAnYo2Dl0wHvUpoHNh6Qgr41B1kq7RI5ZaHspsz1HE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B7H-0004zg-W2; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:57:06 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Deus Max Subject: Re: bug#39618: 28.0.50; gnus nnimap reports more group articles than actually exist References: <877e0nlkk6.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87zhdd5sei.fsf@gnus.org> <87eeupuh1c.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87mu9d2deu.fsf@gnus.org> <878skxuelj.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87lfjfr421.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1sxxnbt.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> <878sf57yjn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h7tsykof.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:57:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h7tsykof.fsf@aia00820.aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:41:52 +0300") Message-ID: <87wo2o4o5t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Deus Max writes: > That is great advice. I have encountered the issue about 3 times, > though now it has been a while without a problem. Each time I ended up > starting over. The last time, even tried to edit the .new [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39618 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 39618@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Deus Max writes: > That is great advice. I have encountered the issue about 3 times, > though now it has been a while without a problem. Each time I ended up > starting over. The last time, even tried to edit the .newsrc manually. > > If/when it happens again, will use your advice and see how it goes. I > have a feeling it should be good. OK; I'll close this bug report now. 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