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27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 15:20:29 -0800 (PST)

`C-h i' shows:

Emacs
* Emacs: (emacs).               The extensible self-documenting text editor.
* Emacs FAQ: (efaq).            Frequently Asked Questions about Emacs.
* Emacs W32 FAQ: (efaq-w32).    FAQs about Emacs on MS Windows.
* Org Mode: (org).              Outline-based notes management and organizer.
* Elisp: (elisp).               The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual.
* Emacs Lisp Intro: (eintr).    A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp 
                                  programming.

Really?  Was this intended?

How is Org mode different from, say, Gnus?  Or Tramp?  Or Dired?  Or
Ediff?  Or EWW?  Or any number of other features?  Why was it elevated
so?  Before Elisp?

Here's one vote to move it back down with the other specific modes.  At
least please move it out of the first group, which is for Emacs as a
whole and Elisp.



In GNU Emacs 27.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2019-12-28
Repository revision: 21c3020fcec0a32122d2680a391864a75393031b
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18362
Configured using:
 `configure --without-dbus --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
 --without-compress-install -C 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''

Message #8 received at 39556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 39556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39556: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:27:20 +0100

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 15:20:29 -0800 (PST) Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> wrote:

> `C-h i' shows:
>
> Emacs
> * Emacs: (emacs).               The extensible self-documenting text editor.
> * Emacs FAQ: (efaq).            Frequently Asked Questions about Emacs.
> * Emacs W32 FAQ: (efaq-w32).    FAQs about Emacs on MS Windows.
> * Org Mode: (org).              Outline-based notes management and organizer.
> * Elisp: (elisp).               The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual.
> * Emacs Lisp Intro: (eintr).    A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp
>                                   programming.
>
> Really?  Was this intended?

The change that caused this appears to be intended:

  commit 165f7383822086d465519ebe6e4283723923f097
  Author: Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org>
  Date:   Tue Dec 3 23:27:04 2019 +0100

    Update Org to 9.3

  [...]

  -@dircategory Emacs editing modes
  +@dircategory Emacs

> How is Org mode different from, say, Gnus?  Or Tramp?  Or Dired?  Or
> Ediff?  Or EWW?  Or any number of other features?  Why was it elevated
> so?  Before Elisp?
>
> Here's one vote to move it back down with the other specific modes.  At
> least please move it out of the first group, which is for Emacs as a
> whole and Elisp.

+1

Steve Berman

Message #13 received at 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#39556: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:31:08 +0100

FWIW, the change was not intentional.

It is fixed in Org stable branch, it will be merged in Emacs when Org
next release is out.

Thanks for reporting this!

-- 
 Bastien

Message #16 received at 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org>, Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#39556: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 15:41:42 -0800 (PST)

> FWIW, the change was not intentional.
> 
> It is fixed in Org stable branch, it will be merged in Emacs when Org
> next release is out.
> 
> Thanks for reporting this!

Great.  Thanks for fixing it!

Message #19 received at 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
To: Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#39556: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 01:00:35 +0100

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:31:08 +0100 Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> FWIW, the change was not intentional.
>
> It is fixed in Org stable branch, it will be merged in Emacs when Org
> next release is out.

Thanks.  Will that be merged to the emacs-27 branch prior to the release
of Emacs 27.1?  If not, the fix should be separately committed to the
emacs-27 branch to ensure it's in the 27.1 release, since it fixes a
kind of regression.

Steve Berman

Message #22 received at 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: 39556-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39556: 27.0.60; Org Mode menu item comes before Elisp item?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 09:42:40 +0100

Hi Stephen,

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net> writes:

> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 00:31:08 +0100 Bastien <bzg <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, the change was not intentional.
>>
>> It is fixed in Org stable branch, it will be merged in Emacs when Org
>> next release is out.
>
> Thanks.  Will that be merged to the emacs-27 branch prior to the release
> of Emacs 27.1?  If not, the fix should be separately committed to the
> emacs-27 branch to ensure it's in the 27.1 release, since it fixes a
> kind of regression.

I fixed this in the emacs-27 branch, thanks for the reminder.

-- 
 Bastien

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