From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:18:23 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#39254 <39254@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#39254 <39254@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.3 and 27.0.50; The manual is inconsistent about the modifier and C-x 8 Reply-To: bug#39254 <39254@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:18:23 +0000 retitle 39254 26.3 and 27.0.50; The manual is inconsistent about the = modifier and C-x 8 reassign 39254 emacs submitter 39254 jorge+list@disroot.org (Jorge P. de Morais Neto) severity 39254 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 08:43:13 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 13:43:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuclN-0004y3-C9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:43:13 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:48238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuclM-0004xx-11 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:43:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49847) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iuclJ-00066l-SK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:43:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuclI-0003uR-Gx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:43:09 -0500 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:33306) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuclH-0003sY-PG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:43:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF9039763 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:43:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2YXYmY3FWNWq for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:43:04 +0100 (CET) From: jorge+list@disroot.org (Jorge P. de Morais Neto) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1579786984; bh=oyS3iA9VxGHQyE92at2QLvwuEIBzvE4R0/0QeJOaXOo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=TNYyo2hwaCHu/kSz+GM7IbtbHDpc45kxKd82ECWFsHUR9KMyyInNAc6HrHF4SjEEC Kat8oLMS81MNi1/lU92va45x8IEcVLz53Xz2/a/Yolgi8xPeVtr2Vc0f5fM8ArnxLu vN+/2PlO7im0MdTsej9yFjacyt56XEwbTmgXwv5EbdzqUVNRjVIVOf6zt1imkpNh5m dgGlUozLgWiAlpQpO3iQGnarRaxGyxStDFpWmsSnsfLw/95d5wJXpY3FSI8RP46zjA wFtFH5EHNU+U1EDw+J/my4zRbmRff1KB0R61z+nC1QKRIsFzaHjrRdOI8FrdTxWGrn dUWSvQtXDeCtQ== To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3 and 27.0.50; The manual is inconsistent about the modifier and C-x 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:42:59 -0300 Message-ID: <87lfpyqof0.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 178.21.23.139 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Hi. The manual section [[info:emacs#Modifier Keys]] says "the standard key bindings in Emacs do not include any characters with these modifiers" (referring to , and ). However, [[info:emacs#Inserting Text]] says "a working Alt key acts like `C-x 8'". Also, the wording in the latter manual section makes it seem that any key sequence starting with the `C-x 8' prefix works with , but, according to my testing (with C-x @ a), that does not hold for `C-x 8 RET'. This occurs on Emacs 26.3 and 27.0.50, both installed via an updated Guix on Debian buster. Regards -- - - I am Brazilian. I hope my English is correct and I welcome feedback. - Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, Org, LaTeX, Opus, WebM and 7z. - Free/libre software for Replicant, LineageOS and Android: https://f-droid.org - [[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][What is free software?]] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 24 03:14:21 2020 Received: (at 39254-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2020 08:14:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuu6e-0008QB-RS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:14:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40493) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuu6c-0008Px-VK for 39254-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:14:19 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuu6X-0003bh-C2; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:14:13 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3022 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iuu6W-0006gR-Ix; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 03:14:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:13:54 +0200 Message-Id: <83eevps24d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: jorge+list@disroot.org (Jorge P. de Morais Neto) In-reply-to: <87lfpyqof0.fsf@disroot.org> (jorge+list@disroot.org) Subject: Re: bug#39254: 26.3 and 27.0.50; The manual is inconsistent about the modifier and C-x 8 References: <87lfpyqof0.fsf@disroot.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39254-done Cc: 39254-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: jorge+list@disroot.org (Jorge P. de Morais Neto) > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:42:59 -0300 > > Hi. The manual section [[info:emacs#Modifier Keys]] says "the standard > key bindings in Emacs do not include any characters with these modifiers" > (referring to , and ). However, > [[info:emacs#Inserting Text]] says "a working Alt key acts like `C-x > 8'". Also, the wording in the latter manual section makes it seem that > any key sequence starting with the `C-x 8' prefix works with , but, > according to my testing (with C-x @ a), that does not hold for `C-x 8 > RET'. Thanks, I fixed these inaccuracies. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 25 06:36:22 2020 Received: (at 39254-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2020 11:36:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivJjh-0002YR-VO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 06:36:22 -0500 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:54158) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivJjg-0002YD-5p for 39254-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 06:36:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E64D2BA41; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:36:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ze5O4prki9NN; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:36:15 +0100 (CET) From: Jorge P. de Morais Neto DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1579952175; bh=/l9o7ZYv6b1JVyoOQCsl2XCcS99tOj2QvJmT6UwA2ZA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=WGvh9LmjcjWYm0Ge7pJVIhjDXfd7z+kTD60JS0J/56Y9jr2nYD2UzMaGHNpK/BHbr lqIj33ugsE6kmUO+g1Kg1HFblGZeFs54C6xUY57edyq8mrCaM9XW/8uLa019YFIo2G tjTEmpN7ooGTbxa5ohU+K7EloJlfuvUI2L0aknbKVL6f27PHIm6gQNIeday05PKdww 533TdUwO8odviHwDWQ/nJTRlFxbR5jr/BPf+/eHLZ94l3yHabhEElFEYA81+cuvIUx jn5MD+7F6lB8kWwkUKO6OxVdkZb30h+S2/gzfJfta4XUagnC7iVJancOJZwQJGXh91 PXj2BagEf1m9g== To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#39254: 26.3 and 27.0.50; The manual is inconsistent about the modifier and C-x 8 In-Reply-To: <83eevps24d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lfpyqof0.fsf@disroot.org> <83eevps24d.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:36:05 -0300 Message-ID: <87tv4jahui.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39254-done Cc: 39254-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Em [2020-01-24 sex 10:13:54+0200], Eli Zaretskii escreveu: > Thanks, I fixed these inaccuracies. Thank you very much! -- - - I am Brazilian. I hope my English is correct and I welcome feedback. - Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, Org, LaTeX, Opus, WebM and 7z. - Free/libre software for Replicant, LineageOS and Android: https://f-droid.org - [[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][What is free software?]] From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:18:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator