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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2e X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) auto-save-list-file-name is still created in the file system when auto-save-default is nil. This behaviour is a bit annoying since Emacs will always create a lingering file that will end up not using. My configuration is as follows: ;; disable auto save (setq auto-save-default nil auto-save-list-file-name (concat +backups-dir+ (format ".auto-save-%s" (emacs-pid)))) If the user wants to disable auto save then nothing should be created in the file system. What's the point in Emacs maintaining this file in this situation? 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2 Jan 2020 18:55:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in5dU-00055D-OI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:55:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in5dT-000551-BO for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:55:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1in5dO-0007Go-5G; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:55:50 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2068 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1in5dM-0000Ga-5W; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:55:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 20:55:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra on Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:26:15 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Guerra > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:26:15 +0100 > > auto-save-list-file-name is still created in the file system when > auto-save-default is nil. This behaviour is a bit annoying since Emacs > will always create a lingering file that will end up not using. > > My configuration is as follows: > > ;; disable auto save > (setq auto-save-default nil > auto-save-list-file-name (concat +backups-dir+ (format > ".auto-save-%s" (emacs-pid)))) I seem to be unable to reproduce this. You are saying that just starting Emacs with the above settings causes the auto-save-list-file-name to appear in the file system? It doesn't seem to happen here. In any case, you supposed to customize auto-save-list-file-prefix, not auto-save-list-file-name directly. Setting auto-save-list-file-prefix to nil will prevent Emacs from initializing auto-save-list-file-name. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 14:09:39 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 19:09:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40036 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in5ql-0005Q4-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:09:39 -0500 Received: from mail-vs1-f48.google.com ([209.85.217.48]:43766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in5qi-0005Pp-W3 for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:09:37 -0500 Received: by mail-vs1-f48.google.com with SMTP id s16so24416482vsc.10 for <38875@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:09:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=x0LKn8dpaty0aDOZBkMr2wtNC7/zbnK8nVrtBwZOV14=; b=jQc+CXOkDQJoqN9X5+/evjgd82MDlIFuqSZilHRp18RVvG/5FMr5QX3GNCc/C66ZH7 lMIcAUfI/Nzkaq7GmWsysCsK0av9r3OjS6CDod1sjaSwWoQX5lcsVoOP6GV0D9vaNB1z mKazVYw9imKXubc6x+nMC6gbdZaHehEH1L0roWMJyYJi104kezuFUClIFy2AtBNs+ie2 Qxvwch69PwQ5R9ST2VEZaaSa+UaA1ydun97y7Ayacbbo045I7/M/izirBZRDSequIS3e /YA27EZ4uuzS1bfT5Md/TyzzhVW9q75M8aF54p+Uj0PMtZjpkNsFvij4vVMGR5FQ+Az2 X4vQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=x0LKn8dpaty0aDOZBkMr2wtNC7/zbnK8nVrtBwZOV14=; b=S4PiuZJMMJ6DtJOQzwrVl9Re9jRgKwZsf8uIIszZ9PViHGybdxcO42jYnw8saacVkA 8wv4zxSqAWjLAPYLDOuW51K/Am11jdWl6LMhYifaD4UkH0Bm9tf98/U8z4as2lQQsGpV WMf0MBg4iYfrqeSff+uSdLhUdAqbPVhu2ElohjPwQzYUSJN4uli0nwnvDCtzeIFBa63G nVYrBT+bhieA5vbwNB2VxMvKJnWYOyYHXqGlwF8rFNaDHeiJl/gLH1jHI4adxjK7AeFo cCRn9Q+kgSuw+HDZiu4zjRXJPpf/66NKz+pVs69bdbdB8vJC60tUecKp5fxiYqfA834b SKgw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUHTxJArBeLrO/5yxQQAPDM/Da/hBg3ndWf78x/USXMzhav74F8 CB4VT7m9F3pRW9PdKw+gBnDCnD/nnH03xVt5aKs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwHidiuo65T/TQBV7Vy68HhOoUP9ZECMi6X59j6f76L/++2fvmpWoNRwLsp6g3BWN9VhM7VmlIAg+H0QgYCwVM= X-Received: by 2002:a67:6282:: with SMTP id w124mr41963235vsb.191.1577992171527; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:09:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gR3VlcnJh?= Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:08:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > I seem to be unable to reproduce this. You are saying that just > starting Emacs with the above settings causes the > auto-save-list-file-name to appear in the file system? It doesn't > seem to happen here. Just starting Emacs and waiting auto-save-timeout will create the file. Setting auto-save-list-file-prefix to nil does make the file not be created. I was setting auto-save-list-file-name to a directory where it doesn't get in the way. Thanks! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 14:19:55 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 19:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40043 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in60h-0005eq-MA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:19:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in60f-0005eg-Vg for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:19:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1in60a-0000ct-S0; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:19:48 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3611 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1in60a-00050R-8n; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:19:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 21:19:45 +0200 Message-Id: <83woa9is32.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra on Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:08:55 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil References: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Guerra > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:08:55 +0100 > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > Setting auto-save-list-file-prefix to nil does make the file not > be created. I was setting auto-save-list-file-name to a directory > where it doesn't get in the way. Thanks! Does this means we can close this bug report? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 14:27:27 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 19:27:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in67z-0005qE-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from mail-vk1-f182.google.com ([209.85.221.182]:32822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in67w-0005q1-HM for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:27:24 -0500 Received: by mail-vk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id i78so10221921vke.0 for <38875@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:27:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kGq7N/ukAacndjtNGPgsIGQ7lC0WQeGxoGqLdxU4YtA=; b=TasKpSqvCmTX1reqIugh4xKjlCLo/S5GBkRzHzjE09DXd5Ryw/iT4bgYoyUw2X9y+R UyMF/IijFpEMZCZ5HUYj2mw2kaN1Ip7hCif1oUf3FuX34TsOm63ENOryMr5ccy+6hvIK Ll73pduVj+RmvCjd/3W56lNvxpoH4HEgQrTYG94hhssMt7jFCV0miKWBasYiuLolrZUI y79a7xhgiJfCHuZjISGfXlBPIS9siO4aJTjowNH6pe27fCli2s2zYnDSYuwMFti3S/Cx dWcWKYmp0VGrsH3CQgRlUAHjtdiz598wzaPtjTuEkV/eUUMlU3u2Go6FXR7aTbp9PMcG ye4w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kGq7N/ukAacndjtNGPgsIGQ7lC0WQeGxoGqLdxU4YtA=; b=NtZf0jEARJp22kcUWhZKyzOO6jTYYQchWIKKBmK+q0mXPVtd95kpslbSucMCY2Hkho b2LxkLnBfxsPTgLdTK4b/QM7UBZwH3ABbmUQj4sAp2Vy51Xwt5O9NaIMJpyvdhyqRA46 uZJUOEJ/PM8aC9D8o2MVNnazTSnRbXg8nk9IzKct+AgrM1+zsPA+3xA4j3W27ZUgh1Jo d6ZJyc7ubI+o2qMi1mJnC+gBilGEsvWUtaCWYvJJ5z7Vu1kafHa8M7lbLFo5f4U1BuRd nKJYCe+b0aTWuvQTAaGKh0YEdxoG+KSrIEMMpauDeH1BYDD37OF/TgZa6ng/Y7AQZnAA JTNw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXQUCWBy7UxASVf/WpzdNEtdmqLpIEoQXmWMH/Dud88kJ779mCe d1rxDFc8vOVmxCQAdbr2CVVxgswA68Y4nYJXA1/6cSfH X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzcZINQLxWWRWqDks+kIy/wiZE5bNzwg7BY2V/MPevIRtLY532J+hOQ1HQ8AyInTp7cG+HqKtWnG8Kbd4vhEiA= X-Received: by 2002:ac5:cd39:: with SMTP id a25mr42042183vkm.50.1577993238972; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:27:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> <83woa9is32.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83woa9is32.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gR3VlcnJh?= Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:26:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 20:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jo=C3=A3o Guerra > > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:08:55 +0100 > > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Setting auto-save-list-file-prefix to nil does make the file not > > be created. I was setting auto-save-list-file-name to a directory > > where it doesn't get in the way. Thanks! > > Does this means we can close this bug report? For me yes. I still find a bit confusing that setting auto-save-default to nil isn't enough to disable this but there's probably something else going on that I am unaware of. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 15:00:55 2020 Received: (at 38875-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 20:00:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in6eM-0006dw-Qp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:00:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in6eL-0006dj-Du for 38875-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:00:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1in6e9-0000xN-6r; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2091 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1in6df-0001uf-3B; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:00:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 22:00:08 +0200 Message-Id: <83tv5diq7r.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra on Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:26:42 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil References: <83y2upit73.fsf@gnu.org> <83woa9is32.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875-done Cc: 38875-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Guerra > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:26:42 +0100 > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Does this means we can close this bug report? > > For me yes. Done. > I still find a bit confusing that setting > auto-save-default to nil isn't enough to disable this Like I said: it does disable creating the file for me. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 15:17:09 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 20:17:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40093 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in6u5-00070t-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:17:09 -0500 Received: from mail-vs1-f44.google.com ([209.85.217.44]:34259) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in6u3-00070e-OV for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:17:08 -0500 Received: by mail-vs1-f44.google.com with SMTP id g15so26115495vsf.1 for <38875@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 12:17:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HyDW5BrH5ZfUUtTEdEYzahtcG+0UrcJtY1E2DE+tSSA=; b=AfXbsUR7hKjDlBLHBxVFLsUo3+uD61NdiM4++DEnm15mV1FLV9fOmnvd1KtLbfnMzY Vsst9Y8cMdVl8Rrj8OBO+QusP7ZcexiHEm7hOWth4lfhyGjowlaj/LlfJBXZ6vGsbp6j RxJBc3cnded76Ih4y2d+gQdnYi3lSiaKhj8z2X48sV2W5Less+oSCzvhFhc0W8OtghrG H3fTdzdhtwGiLdJgPws2xrLsHOZANMl9UkcHw0kUaElYlLjfdWwyLGa7r+miSdxQIybg topqBqJYOidMofuyw5LiehusRVNhIGQ32wfW/2GepvnpOC9S8XzeTggnDtbyQOcPLygf +Esg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HyDW5BrH5ZfUUtTEdEYzahtcG+0UrcJtY1E2DE+tSSA=; b=hPL+b+61P4d+rwQmkaZMwgkpySfTwP9eLqxDlEkMpY0CaWEzDHMJ+jIJ8/QfkDhrg9 H8JHDOeUXhX9BWcqjiPQ+Vg9pOqbdaxGe0BXBPVNZq2YOsgmbjVIbHwzB6LnDVL42kPr snG/aBMjvGb0eKLDUd8UIcWv4QqeIR2WFyo5Bt7vU2yuWeC1jTTEsLEcs6sHT6yF+/TS qXiCFSL35Xkeac3NwSsRUog6w0rxq/BPf20PwtUJFsSI/eCyxXHW1XGwL5IYytdMPQu6 AeG+gbrwQqQ6fIHOkEWaoaeH+fqJBsCNVXrnUKsFsUHWOe1ip4WVR62sGMArVdhwhTy6 hp4g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV88cGGFPrTc41kl34ek602QDiYa4BO4mkMLcyWM8XkDLVSxaLk zun+diFBD1qNlnpayLRiaDg0/TYi9HPSzNleWQVetC39 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxLsIDBypyY/L1E3c9O7mn36ww97gsXaB7eMaLTMuJTgUgUgZRySamjg+pN1TLpiprjoHKlmvHp2KmnMqikuzE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:30a7:: with SMTP id y7mr41932743vsd.212.1577996222326; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 12:17:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gR3VlcnJh?= Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 21:16:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Like I said: it does disable creating the file for me. Try `emacs -q -l test.el` with test.el: (setq auto-save-default nil) wait a bit and `~/.emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves--~` will be created. Tried on GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 and GNU Emacs 27.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-12-28 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 15:25:12 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 20:25:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in71s-0007D9-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:25:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in71r-0007Cs-I3 for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:25:11 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1in71m-0003QU-EK; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:25:06 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3614 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1in71h-0006X2-Ur; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 15:25:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 22:24:57 +0200 Message-Id: <83sgkxip2e.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra on Thu, 2 Jan 2020 21:16:26 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Guerra > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 21:16:26 +0100 > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Like I said: it does disable creating the file for me. > > Try `emacs -q -l test.el` with test.el: > > (setq auto-save-default nil) > > wait a bit and `~/.emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves--~` > will be created. That's exactly what I did, except that these settings were in ~/.emacs and not loaded after startup. I waited for 30 seconds, and didn't see any auto-save-list file in ~/.emacs.d/. Not sure why it happens for you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 02 16:10:43 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2020 21:10:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in7ju-0008HQ-T8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:10:43 -0500 Received: from mail-vs1-f43.google.com ([209.85.217.43]:34457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1in7ju-0008HD-0E for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:10:42 -0500 Received: by mail-vs1-f43.google.com with SMTP id g15so26201666vsf.1 for <38875@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:10:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g+JsO6ns9VfCdlzfbN+RAC7HX1A6rOmQAjwWAmuvxRU=; b=Est0eCuTzFBOaYc/FOoI73CxFHRmuo7ROlQpbZ8jdkcMmiePbTNoxMTusi8Mebu4s9 l5QzpQOC/6o+OhMSASZ6E+Awr5Kgu4vBkiqQv3BYI5qgGHYZDxIuQ3YBbOorlstNInoT BNEu/w6pvmTgJ91EBBvAVWPqPKJJYNdF/IpAKkRFruSPipiCW5AYMeVgQ855yArT28TE v6PNfd1LlO/qpLc/E7Cva27+k5lDWdVBuSYtBYfBhYoyvM5r8VKKr72xLZ/EqjRcm0eT dBDN0kBTe9yEIIDEB53ozEEzfMQbX31gcyFbwyJH5qcEVXXpqLUgUyOzO0D7QbGjLP3c p5Nw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g+JsO6ns9VfCdlzfbN+RAC7HX1A6rOmQAjwWAmuvxRU=; b=ck/aks2fF+hgBiQNvrDZnqj4bP9I7moPT5NxkwMuHBEQEhD8rBt3+VDJ/MymU1zIRc eu8EWjMPmL0JDONPL9ubXNLzEht7wSbDFoFBVZcvp9pbgdvdhNyBx2Gdv+c/8F+p4cC7 zWlloBj5qFp2Twpnwy8FF4F3elucBVL8hiC2KYWVRFS92cMx+b41ZtfCKCPPVamE2O/D b43sc/+/jav5JfZz2o3Ubj4PhD4a9W79UV5TJLM+JOhpP2uc2n5r/64gcgptmZ0RYTfG j8H5K/vCj80cXQ5ffHejgBOXH+06UKHo3EG70M3ugGj+HTTN005FTEc8gJKWALUY/5Tq f3Ow== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWC4Y6UhLJUsOhBmkk3XPUQghctRkJfnuaAgxtPOLtislWl7slY j9lqceEZf4vxERHc6MoUhOox/fpwIKRPYXcsJX0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy00i2G8PeLTgPdP1FJp9ZMS7aPFPDY/zI0Szl0765YrY6yL1uXlsFeBpdM5kr0uQQQ5E+O2QfEMREHTSJWfaA= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f81a:: with SMTP id l26mr44813867vso.194.1577999435335; Thu, 02 Jan 2020 13:10:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83sgkxip2e.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83sgkxip2e.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gR3VlcnJh?= Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:09:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > From: Jo=C3=A3o Guerra > > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 21:16:26 +0100 > > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > Like I said: it does disable creating the file for me. > > > > Try `emacs -q -l test.el` with test.el: > > > > (setq auto-save-default nil) > > > > wait a bit and `~/.emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves--~` > > will be created. > > That's exactly what I did, except that these settings were in ~/.emacs > and not loaded after startup. I waited for 30 seconds, and didn't see > any auto-save-list file in ~/.emacs.d/. Not sure why it happens for > you. Tried yet on another platform and Emacs version and using the method you described and it still happened. The thing is that for some reason the time it takes to create the file is not consistent, sometimes it's 30s (auto-save-timeout) other times is 2m :s. Made a video https://youtu.be/metU0u2umtQ. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 03 03:31:26 2020 Received: (at 38875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2020 08:31:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40378 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1inIMg-0001V6-Ir for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 03:31:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36486) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1inIMe-0001Us-I6 for 38875@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 03:31:25 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1inIMZ-0007kZ-DE; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 03:31:19 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3957 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1inIMV-0002Bp-Pb; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 03:31:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 10:31:14 +0200 Message-Id: <83ftgxhrfx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o?= Guerra on Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:09:59 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38875: 26.2; auto-save-list-file-name still created when auto-save-default is nil References: <83sgkxip2e.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38875 Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Guerra > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:09:59 +0100 > Cc: 38875@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > (setq auto-save-default nil) > > > > > > wait a bit and `~/.emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves--~` > > > will be created. > > > > That's exactly what I did, except that these settings were in ~/.emacs > > and not loaded after startup. I waited for 30 seconds, and didn't see > > any auto-save-list file in ~/.emacs.d/. Not sure why it happens for > > you. > > Tried yet on another platform and Emacs version and using the method > you described and it still happened. The thing is that for some reason > the time it takes to create the file is not consistent, sometimes it's > 30s (auto-save-timeout) other times is 2m :s. Made a video > https://youtu.be/metU0u2umtQ. Apologies, you are right. But this seems to be working as intended. Emacs creates that directory if it doesn't yet exist whenever it enters do-auto-save, and it does that before it loops over all the buffers, so it cannot yet know whether any of the buffers wants auto-saving. It cannot refrain from creating the directory (and the listing file inside it) based on the value of auto-save-default alone, because that value could have been changed half-way through a session, and some of the buffers still want to be auto-saved. We could perhaps make two loops over the buffers, one before creating the directory and one after, but that doesn't seem like an efficient way (think of sessions with many hundreds of buffers), and since a way exists of disabling the creation of that directory by customizing auto-save-list-file-prefix, there doesn't seem to be a need for punishing the users who do want auto-saving. OK? 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