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27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML

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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:05:02 +0900

The HTML version of the Emacs manual has a link to "eintr.html" when
the HTML version of the "Introduction" created by the "make docs" is named emacs-lisp-intro.html

Message #8 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:31:16 +0100

Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org>
writes:

> The HTML version of the Emacs manual has a link to "eintr.html" when
> the HTML version of the "Introduction" created by the "make docs" is
> named emacs-lisp-intro.html

Yes:

HTML_TARGETS = emacs-lisp-intro.html

But the manual is at:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/eintr.html

So I don't know what's up with that.  Anybody?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:47:12 +0200

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:31:16 +0100
> Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org>
> writes:
> 
> > The HTML version of the Emacs manual has a link to "eintr.html" when
> > the HTML version of the "Introduction" created by the "make docs" is
> > named emacs-lisp-intro.html
> 
> Yes:
> 
> HTML_TARGETS = emacs-lisp-intro.html
> 
> But the manual is at:
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/eintr.html
> 
> So I don't know what's up with that.  Anybody?

Evidently, whoever produced the HTML version of the manual didn't use
the Makefile rule.

Message #14 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:50:51 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> HTML_TARGETS = emacs-lisp-intro.html
>> 
>> But the manual is at:
>> 
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/eintr.html
>> 
>> So I don't know what's up with that.  Anybody?
>
> Evidently, whoever produced the HTML version of the manual didn't use
> the Makefile rule.

Changing link names is to be avoided if possible...  (To avoid breaking
old links.)

Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
emacs-lisp-intro.html?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:56:30 +0200

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Cc: jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org,  38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:50:51 +0100
> 
> Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
> emacs-lisp-intro.html?

I have no opinion on that (and don't understand why the name is a
problem in the first place).

Message #20 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:59:57 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
>> emacs-lisp-intro.html?
>
> I have no opinion on that (and don't understand why the name is a
> problem in the first place).

Me neither.  Perhaps somebody else has some insight here -- I had a peek
at the commit log for lispintro/Makefile.in, but nothing stood out
immediately.

If nobody objects within unreasonable time, I'll change the target back
to eintr.html, to match the published version on the GNU web site.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #23 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:14:17 +0100

On Dez 09 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I have no opinion on that (and don't understand why the name is a
> problem in the first place).

# The file name eintr must fit within 5 characters, to allow for
# -NN extensions to fit into DOS 8+3 limits without clashing

Andreas.

-- 
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Message #26 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org,
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:14:58 +0100

On Dez 09 2020, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> If nobody objects within unreasonable time, I'll change the target back
> to eintr.html

The name eintr.html has never been used.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510  2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
"And now for something completely different."

Message #29 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 10:16:48 -0600

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

>>> Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
>>> emacs-lisp-intro.html?
>>
>> I have no opinion on that (and don't understand why the name is a
>> problem in the first place).
>
> Me neither.  Perhaps somebody else has some insight here -- I had a peek
> at the commit log for lispintro/Makefile.in, but nothing stood out
> immediately.
>
> If nobody objects within unreasonable time, I'll change the target back
> to eintr.html, to match the published version on the GNU web site.

Sounds good.  Even if it doesn't matter now, it will help avoid mistakes
and confusion in the future.

Message #32 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:38:51 +0900

> On Dec 10, 2020, at 0:59, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
>>> Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
>>> emacs-lisp-intro.html?
>> 
>> I have no opinion on that (and don't understand why the name is a
>> problem in the first place).
> 
> Me neither.  Perhaps somebody else has some insight here -- I had a peek
> at the commit log for lispintro/Makefile.in, but nothing stood out
> immediately.
> 
> If nobody objects within unreasonable time, I'll change the target back
> to eintr.html, to match the published version on the GNU web site.

Thank you for looking into this.

-- 
Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
http://mac4translators.blogspot.com

Message #35 received at 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 38817 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jean.christophe.helary <at> traduction-libre.org
Subject: Re: bug#38817: 27.0.50; eintr file name discrepency in HTML
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 04:51:19 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Perhaps we should just switch the target back to eintr.html from
> emacs-lisp-intro.html?

I've now done so in Emacs 29.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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