From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 22 14:46:28 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2019 19:46:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ij7BM-0007Vg-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:46:28 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41450) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ij7BK-0007VV-53 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:46:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ij7BI-0007gX-HL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:46:25 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij7BG-0003v5-Rx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:46:24 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:45700) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij7BG-0003px-I4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:46:22 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xBMJiFUH185917 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:46:21 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=GcHMrUi/pKdbxzwHofugTdTXbdt3kt7RQgSGasXG1tQ=; b=WeVu2MTmlGw6aAcamsFnaZIEA5KLCkfrfeNS/8r0zgUNQUpIqn+CaRJZ8JU2axi2TEuG PiIKCVHSZWMAYOSD7ghnIg+aseySUHjUtsg6fFIqqgVIna3DAgPsxol6GvqavirUpRDZ TI81x2ZFOPWxgUh7MOh74OBE1lCTCdo+YfIZZchClCvlz1fK+/c+y7hoBdejoQysGVGZ mdnC8t1dP42Xn6oT0N780ZEeYZ/8GoJfTmucuf66u4ryzAltFjEkyqr0OOTR0PzgNmdL HANTRzQIiygwfHZ06fY1lWLFpKrzi6DB+4hSgokP1+LmWg1KSHo19wUSBAMhdEOG7Qjk mQ== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2x1bbpkybh-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:46:21 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xBMJiDQL128322 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:46:20 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2x1wj7xbnt-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:46:20 +0000 Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xBMJkFpU016152 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:46:19 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <77962b69-f8d4-450f-b829-290d201de289@default> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; (elisp) `Fond and Color Parameters' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4939.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9479 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1912220180 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9479 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1912220180 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.78 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Compare the descriptions of `foreground-color' and `background-color': 'foreground-color' The color to use for the image of a character. It is equivalent to the ':foreground' attribute of the 'default' face. 'background-color' The color to use for the background of characters. It is equivalent to the ':background' attribute of the 'default' face. The latter is OK. The former talks about "the image of a character", which is unclear and misleading. Certainly this has nothing to do with other uses of "image" in the context of Emacs, and the phrase is undefined here. Please consider using language for foreground similar to what is used for background, or make the former description clear in some other way. (If you really want to keep the form of the description and just replace "image" there then maybe use something like "grapheme" or "figure" or "appearance" or "representation" or "form". But "image" is misleading here.) In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 25 18:57:44 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2020 22:57:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36386 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAhsu-0002Vq-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:57:44 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f177.google.com ([209.85.219.177]:37426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAhst-0002Vb-0T for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:57:43 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f177.google.com with SMTP id e14so167058ybf.4 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OevbVvOgoNMAaPq+xeltw5yu6OeYGS4ymMoAKqWaWB8=; b=lNLUWfD0TCIRJouIng7wmUDw1eRoiPN+CtVXrRRh3mtKyoL7aqrAhmh8uepTII9Clr 2/uwevvI245dChIEf9rWl0l6Pu9um1xQ1bEs/9rAqm133gJIo2YeQBic0XUGBa/tLWil E0iyVfEK/s7JlJRsMJStV4ZnCRUGXuCobdnYAl+2U2wPHztJ5dQ4sazaOklUwNH696uP 79a543DivxbNg/pdfwgB+aE1J6xA7KabVtfPcUuGTSS2pt2OWR2RiqkAStglGpLEhJYI 8+QABMtbtF/L+sKXkVhXl+ix+xn5iRTSaPzFhNL/2Mt3QhfCnZf4LyufwhP4ZUTGoTO8 0Idw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533qFfvG97Nj7IXXte0n31Osa2zYbuhOz16zQrtfPKiUKMpQuEGb 8JnHTQ6Vg2/ubt4RQ6w6+nPaxemIfXFwLVZR/5c+6Onq X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx5mCa+AX506vMtkZNjnMEVoU7Fh9fScuvWNC5UCRDPUAQP2FGwJQVKuDgtzXf2rR6h2n25Ts48XTHQSwlU2pM= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr19137064ybp.43.1598396257425; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:57:37 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:57:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: severity 38710 minor thanks Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.219.177 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.219.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 BLANK_SUBJECT Subject is present but empty -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different severity 38710 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 30 02:00:07 2021 Received: (at 38710) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2021 07:00:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53451 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5kEp-0004Q5-FR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 02:00:07 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52442) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5kEm-0004Is-S4 for 38710@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 02:00:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=CKibm9kQqPfqpYlduR5ywwpZeyqc8szdZ/DzmFSjugM=; b=symTZsd8SKf1QRIFbNnyO+FHsd m0X7rQvsp5Wg2HqBmTCdu+27rlSEQCnpVwTHeOPXCb3eSKM/kYYTZVQbKz7WbuOKnAwB/Zf5SzL2B +1QrT+O3/D7T9MA2X3coZmD2cuHxa+Qm2FdBy1NioxYnMP29GnefDGp9mNWDCKgaZk64=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l5kEa-0005US-SX; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:59:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#38710: 26.3; (elisp) `Fond and Color Parameters' References: <77962b69-f8d4-450f-b829-290d201de289@default> X-Now-Playing: David Allred's _In A Town You Wouldn't Know_: "Untitled" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:59:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <77962b69-f8d4-450f-b829-290d201de289@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2019 11:46:15 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87k0ruzz88.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > The latter is OK. The former talks about "the image of a character", > which is unclear and misleading. Certainly this has nothing to do with > other uses of "image" in the context of Emacs, and the [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38710 Cc: 38710@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > The latter is OK. The former talks about "the image of a character", > which is unclear and misleading. Certainly this has nothing to do with > other uses of "image" in the context of Emacs, and the phrase is > undefined here. Yup. 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