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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:45:49 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Snatch-Society: 0ca2f06d466c79eb_1576680349274_3955269508 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1576680349274:1174487001 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1576680349274 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B037F1C5 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 06:45:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=lkWeixjqFUSD6w9nJAbp4fnvpIU=; b=X0mzJjBD1RooIslH X1xrDIg3ALJzYHRepQjZLZvGon4lsWeu+ujHDhVbkc8L6vOHobUo4P8Bl8axgZ+P YxE9DK8M9B46XOwdPBoLAGo8oIWjGJSguGW1BIJjPRRfsEnQSL8SEwQXJ8aM6uwz ca4puKWpnNK5aNf7pF6RCH7QTAA= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-85-72.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.85.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 670FC7F1BA for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 06:45:44 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a44 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: ange-ftp.el grammar Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 12:06:37 +0800 Message-ID: <87v9qdn14b.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrvddtledgieehucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufffkgggtsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddrudejtddrkeehrdejvdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedurddujedtrdekhedrjedvpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 23.83.209.24 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) /usr/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el.gz grammar problem: ;; For example: if find-file is given a filename of: ;; ;; /ange@anorman:/tmp/notes ;; ;; then ange-ftp spawns an FTP process, connect to the host 'anorman' as ^s ;; user 'ange', get the file '/tmp/notes' and pop up a buffer containing the ^s ^s ;; contents of that file as if it were on the local filesystem. If ange-ftp ;; needs a password to connect then it reads one in the echo area. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 18 13:28:27 2019 Received: (at 38660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2019 18:28:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihe3f-0000Sv-67 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:28:27 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:37015) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihe3d-0000Si-Dk for 38660@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:28:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1576693696; bh=bcd8K5uF2J5dZc1X22QnkjvNNsU6aXFpFz4wKUUUQu8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=BqlxqH6y+1JVnvinJb0DIcAFra7k+kgiq3Ri5JhP7f4Vwh775M86yCxTMpqwufk86 nj5f5QoSJl2gWN1tBN1JxSBaoC2/ixlvjOiKW7E/GKR1XN4oDJPv+DCW9wNoYOlOh1 hcWIND1Pm6DoayxXO4pAEr/lY2q7pVuBBWzr9kQU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.61.76]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MsYqp-1hoQhv0hPH-00tzh6; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 19:28:16 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#38660: ange-ftp.el grammar References: <87v9qdn14b.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 19:28:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v9qdn14b.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2019 12:06:37 +0800") Message-ID: <87h81xxzcx.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jzHMG7LY1PBVUrati1pBH0dFaW38FOMAs9Py8L1th6fCdSd315C tY7sSvsklVff/JT2hl/gecMctj8EHR32LK2OK10CDlXDcaMf+jYM3VKnGEhz8juvkmoTJu1 j2Wk6Ya2azXBm4dH67wfTmWUn+C5QhXEom6XO+rtxeQMTe2hPPtSxPhU0cVX3+gskHP+XHd oGNsMh9fYILnnAdODYwqw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:w+akpD0YmZo=:kyejrr56zPzCjao3HefLy5 YQddKRly7/2Y1yiKiRoukFJSWSiIWQpQHpzu7PGr38F0L328tBXa85VCbw4m9gOwmCxsm7Q6w R8rHMoghuk2GbNjxxcJkrCG4nrA+12UcAk68wRi1uQ/1f8PAQMIXtoW9XtPwpk6mCroQTmvJO 0HvKheu5gtjSMqRhimconpisXnfhrgNeq6tbKajCFjNZ1SSDvexAndxeO9uOry+3YcntZdTKq 2skbKfkPDCVsEUh9w/VtIe/QEcS7DmhCEe8Mkt9+uBLJH2Vw7P44AvJgRm22Ln6CHEJHSlrR9 3J7KL9t7rLdrAsWyOOrsaCOq/mjsmti24AqFY8LjRQgON2VBYnyUGWZnxh038hS+FMYhFReJj zLiE78vaiEGjUJH9H2PnjpaElLQYNT7nG4ulbEgien/neD6fhRRelHDkdIRZRJ7j5X6yeiChK Dm/Y0Ythw+jmUtnW518T1NkvFwT1PIPPb63m8fDjurtMUxw3h375Nr2bWt+/yFyswgrpzSVW1 hs1/1cjMAzwZP35NG9NslyPOyh3seaH98QlQCcAq/WbKktTC2I96Wqw/s+Csdr+AbKU3VEPZw UR/FyLCOM3JR0KV44KZ1G4xNtWQwu3aHP78osb80xZYAoHRbyMpiluhGYFbvr6R/XHTdo7yU3 W2igSbAAS45dNd4dMDR3qoPdelNqykrTkNhBuVMOQTV1MB688Uf7jwtGQVNc88Vx15TSSb2AL 9EyMeO455Y/UrGB6Ifqs4RpNtuP6cmx+Zu3c3dydNZe2a3btSaZOKR0uz+JB9V3exSGkPGH6A p+zMhpeF+myuU/Lx4QE4JkYBjLLtgmkjWj/cgwko4bM25cjNXe0PuUTa467Xb53q6nb2HDHe3 vVuoIdEJbZN6LZUpXo3oOnXPZgXVf0I4JlT2Mxl3LXNCFVCnz/W3i9scymb8OB9B/9l9y39mL Y/xdA9tHtjGQegdjaQc/ydpSDHYdl4kWmcmjbBdK9ku4v1AQ2sgIeVwy9D9GW7C94mYW3olOq U7Sibi5yCxPDmP4mQWpTDqzYmDD3BDcN36jUp4LahKZ7kn3qg6EcR25dokBGkxYYEJjnR8EN5 K+ZAb6lGJkoB6utRDwMhg7jOQQkcdYSg3T4A8qsFGVDMCy+8n+V/Nej2IXmbX18k+3fZjSGTz H41j7kNOnvI/u+tPj8yC8xKMMNFNyoKGm0Rra4D3w14a2bc4/JS0VUS0+qi4bFd4qhJTpQs+m dzW/drlMTBpIJBrUHrDRkXbr0vi2fdu62cNwf9LW7koakdBwp3v1gdbj3OaU= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38660 Cc: 38660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > /usr/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/net/ange-ftp.el.gz grammar problem: > > ;; For example: if find-file is given a filename of: > ;; > ;; /ange@anorman:/tmp/notes > ;; > ;; then ange-ftp spawns an FTP process, connect to the host 'anorman' as > ^s > ;; user 'ange', get the file '/tmp/notes' and pop up a buffer containing = the > ^s ^s > ;; contents of that file as if it were on the local filesystem. If ange-= ftp > ;; needs a password to connect then it reads one in the echo area. I'm not a native English speaker, but to me it sounds like active voice. What's wrong with this? Best regards, Michael. 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What's wrong with this? Well all I know is there is >> ;; then ange-ftp spawns an FTP process, connect to the host 'anorman' as ^an "s" here, ^but not here, etc. Odd. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 19 03:36:57 2019 Received: (at 38660-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2019 08:36:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihrIm-0006ac-Mm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:36:57 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:45443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihrIk-0006aO-Rn for 38660-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:36:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1576744605; bh=kafe7fssvz41aU9dowLAl589q1euBge0rGsEZnojgmM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=XTwqhCpCejYw8ZZLSIKgK1RtvRwg3Ju/PQnhe+V1KwUyXionC4NtV5GsKMmeOUBVT hn1LZaiRX2YOMetWcKtVfpJBaDfDFTSrMzojSZsYpS12nFBYqqd8MoaRAAnDb7ESpU hnLvgKaDazNe0mRG8LUFlMoc3gr4upTgtFjsiooU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.140.124.27]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MfpOT-1i1upo1afZ-00gKhV; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 09:36:45 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#38660: ange-ftp.el grammar References: <87v9qdn14b.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87h81xxzcx.fsf@gmx.de> <87zhfptdon.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 09:36:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zhfptdon.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2019 07:30:00 +0800") Message-ID: <87a77oyan7.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oS6e5AD40hZs/6tcDNg7yZUy5RJkcdhnQHz/A0zoueqQaKKjK9+ DV1fOagqQsiK1r4feXvtQAvQ/kVSU6y8ukQrWCkLbMLAI3BzFSqYAb+TntVakBXfv776Lv6 l6/Tlo5U1PuQkaMEVuRh2Ta1mbZ16j5Eb/ILvIFM1R2e1qtie6psRnKFv/PICTEIXTyyhrg omGcRCIg1tFnyV0b+DCog== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cpn4dSN/t9Q=:pVZC+wYCyocWni9cqdXJ0G 4lHsbT7VsSVOIkzrgeulJpLy/fKvkJw1iQI5+XiWNAIDa6EncNs96XjydMc+aAV0pSkNyDOLJ ofY4d64CNroC7Eu6G1hkfDmXDumS/kwPV2GWy7uHjrnvieJ1pWvBGAbS7K4msxT4+wEtugE4g C1tkaXbGYWnLZ9CdfMe0gBJbrzrbGclCXAjo+CbL1K7xoEHBnaIWxxYit2AlHI8PTpXPreOGr pJAYjcx13CA8K+WsLWciBoJqSWgrDIB6w+toTO3d2UEhKp/gFsC+VFP0EQORu0D/RKO7kO3yZ b8D8eJD0EWcvwdptxquEA25Z9RmbsUNhPR41hKQN5pQksn91CpU2ayE/UhpKxorwzc6PCotRq 1Pe7fR5+rvRFgBJ7OVufoC3X6yaepAiCdbXv+sJojD/hi7CeO6w20uZ/8oNTV9U3EWHcQZhCP l1ByGjM/AUUhxONujr4ZgoSHju7Y7kntY0/khPrcW+QcAnXedhX0r6+Q/pBtaY1uRuLUdTMdf /y/S2keZgFv7V2saacR5Q4l46cwp8TwXuMdIH6YC2u4YgQna4tYEB5r20aCJUowhBw5862RMd 9O5/M7lnzyi9iRX5j2gDmafHIa5bkDMrVxVRLFXM7CIp65Vi5lBCj7OdOyJN/HMd7zCQ7cq9j Ga/2LCCqJsgdLHxGusnVedMD0yy630Vf7SzT2tegQ8sJXIGDhq2AKgHAn4nCdM6fRltwFK0w0 TozwuSOVGw1OvjQ4q7MDc3vu2X89DQyCP2QuAUpzKnYsMbbR5owNcfaIhY+Qz8myCrorEW2O4 60REyBtdw/xmWlSAaKCr9tsNaFBmNoUumYWms3mmKZr2rAcevqsX/PAqcbuy7/b7aC9ROcxsU Mtf810Cqtcr2rTxtRcLAqLtm3NAxFAjOk5rlEnQnePPJ6aYOYHRG4Hnw7rRh0ABBEoc84xEBt b+m2Oa020mCjw13nvd7AgtbeZtldMz2ZrXdwwmIcLR9inSMoMnQkGcjjd83WRE9O+VOa1odju xsEDPcJSmROvWfGEvhlO5ZYUX29byomK2gbFV2doD2X53WInsbgR4Zs3qV+5iIwOf3Xf2r6Hs cUiarb7FkX4s8aXyE/9sx02qdF0uTfqb7G6Z7SUZLCTX8QXqPZFZzRdaqFmGhZkcnanfQAdf3 BP40+4+v0aVfJ9hUrtiJfRU6xkPP9GjXAs/fw+QseWF6cP61OAi2vFpWnd6Taf2K0t6wuPQdR 7BKRkiZR9+MexZwcoxKslBbdQXW2QSTMt5zIbaoFLa9DOF6XEMbsk6V7G4FQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38660-done Cc: 38660-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > MA> I'm not a native English speaker, but to me it sounds like active > MA> voice. What's wrong with this? > > Well all I know is there is >>> ;; then ange-ftp spawns an FTP process, connect to the host 'anorman' as > ^an "s" here, ^but not here, etc. Odd. Hmm, there is a mix of active and passive voice. I've pushed your proposed changes, closing the bug. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 19 10:42:37 2019 Received: (at 38660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2019 15:42:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihxwj-0004PD-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:42:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ihxwh-0004P0-F6 for 38660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:42:35 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35191) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ihxwZ-0005I4-3X; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:42:27 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2860 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ihxwY-0003Gv-HT; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:42:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:42:20 +0200 Message-Id: <83tv5w1fvn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Michael Albinus In-reply-to: <87a77oyan7.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Thu, 19 Dec 2019 09:36:44 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38660: ange-ftp.el grammar References: <87v9qdn14b.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87h81xxzcx.fsf@gmx.de> <87zhfptdon.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87a77oyan7.fsf@gmx.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38660 Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 38660@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Albinus > Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 09:36:44 +0100 > Cc: 38660-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > > > MA> I'm not a native English speaker, but to me it sounds like active > > MA> voice. What's wrong with this? > > > > Well all I know is there is > >>> ;; then ange-ftp spawns an FTP process, connect to the host 'anorman' as > > ^an "s" here, ^but not here, etc. Odd. > > Hmm, there is a mix of active and passive voice. Not active and passive, but singular and plural. From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:54:04 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator