From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 11 20:15:48 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2019 01:15:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifD51-0007cU-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:15:48 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46881) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifD50-0007cH-FI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:15:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ifD4x-0001F2-UL for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:15:46 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ifD4s-0001oP-3L for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:15:43 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.142]:38453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ifD4r-0000U9-NP for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:15:38 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 139232400FB for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 02:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 47YG6L4xcCz9rxL for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 02:14:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <87405f5e561a3e4470703cbcc579f9b39c5d3a1e.camel@zrythm.org> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add gx-plugins-lv2. From: Alexandros Theodotou To: Guix patches Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 01:14:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DHk7cXm0dmFAy3MPBW13" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 185.67.36.142 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --=-DHk7cXm0dmFAy3MPBW13 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-sTZTyQI9v8G8BSzXKD2Q" --=-sTZTyQI9v8G8BSzXKD2Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I deleted many gx-* packages since upstream provides a meta-repository for them. 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h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=fBjnrIhlFf093bQmTSfJjjSJhXe1OgPZ/qsdvOWpHd4=; b=W8CUk7jN0y26y3ifYtrJtQ5dVTykf6EPPnzq1C8dwBBSXI9rlccmDIJd6pNwc2mN 4WBriVz7SqQ9yTW2+ruUzLMJ1do74otkdqkjdyWrUYfzBJxWk847S1NqY8BAdxVVVfm /SnKjqK1Ls+YmM6ayq48WyBTJYzbk+Cw6d6O/5k0= Received: from localhost (p54AD4459.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.68.89]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1576141906444383.565965772327; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 01:11:46 -0800 (PST) References: <87405f5e561a3e4470703cbcc579f9b39c5d3a1e.camel@zrythm.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: Alexandros Theodotou Subject: Re: [bug#38570] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add gx-plugins-lv2. In-reply-to: <87405f5e561a3e4470703cbcc579f9b39c5d3a1e.camel@zrythm.org> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:11:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87zhfx3o35.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38570 Cc: 38570@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Alexandros, > I deleted many gx-* packages since upstream provides a meta-repository > for them. FWIW Arch does the same: > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/gxplugins.lv2/ I think it=E2=80=99s better to err on the side of granularity here and prov= ide the lv2 plugins as individual packages. We could have a meta package that simply propagates all of the individual packages. --=20 Ricardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 12 05:14:11 2019 Received: (at 38570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2019 10:14:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59067 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifLU3-0002Lx-5a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:14:11 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.141]:43319) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifLU1-0002Lf-E5 for 38570@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:14:10 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF802160062 for <38570@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:14:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 47YV5539xrz6tmM; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:14:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <8fc2300eb10593b64c07975c10a553da9926ad88.camel@zrythm.org> Subject: Re: [bug#38570] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add gx-plugins-lv2. From: Alexandros Theodotou To: Ricardo Wurmus Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:13:55 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87zhfx3o35.fsf@elephly.net> References: <87405f5e561a3e4470703cbcc579f9b39c5d3a1e.camel@zrythm.org> <87zhfx3o35.fsf@elephly.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WJacQUgDHVCwLFelzPLt" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38570 Cc: 38570@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-WJacQUgDHVCwLFelzPLt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ricardo, Thanks for taking a look at this. On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 10:11 +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >=20 > I think it=E2=80=99s better to err on the side of granularity here and > provide > the lv2 plugins as individual packages. >=20 > We could have a meta package that simply propagates all of the > individual packages. I think this is a very bad idea in this case, considering: a) No one will ever want to install specific gxplugins. Usually people want to install the "gxplugin suite" - or even all available LV2 plugins b) There are !!!!!!43!!!!!! plugins here. Do you realize how painful and unnecessary it would be to add and maintain these packages? Especially considering the following point c) The total installed file size for all of these is only 7mb d) These are all from the same person, who explicitly provides a meta- repository for packagers so it makes sense to offer them in the same package If you insist though, I would likely just use my own channel for this as I don't want to go through the trouble of adding 40 extra packages, each only a few KB in size. Thanks, Alex --=-WJacQUgDHVCwLFelzPLt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEESBMjhK0999huJUuDAi6uQjE9cPMFAl3yEuMACgkQAi6uQjE9 cPOFdwf/TbcbuQ7EgwSco4TVVGWmlhP+SUegJlRHfB0BzT05mPyJh+xYz+G0M1J7 hCjRhfSV/OY9JsbD9As4TCZERQVtTyvrsfKJTToPLoRA7wfwUIOR2m1ndQAZJ8si ftqyVRVXj+S2k9x61FqpZ/QUSRBwDE0TjJPPOfu0WWgiPi9XY7rFsYv8F3gFXA5v ggLP7rMivfSfUKEjb1fNW7Dr72S6AnbXjlAn8WzQDnAoJM6q2O25Yik0BuBO3N53 NTFz8v2SkjNHpn1ug4/3YZtN+50kgE+Ror2+uvi3mh/2jKvO1mkDMPBECx9XyrtU csQEPHRQ7wsE8KC+DYjCLKSv+qvq6w== =xg9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WJacQUgDHVCwLFelzPLt-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 25 10:35:48 2020 Received: (at 38570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2020 15:35:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55980 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j6cFQ-0004jX-Hw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:35:48 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.141]:53579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j6cFO-0004jJ-JN for 38570@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:35:47 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1797216005C for <38570@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 48Rjgb0Pkbz6tmR; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:35:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug#38570] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add gx-plugins-lv2. From: Alexandros Theodotou To: Ricardo Wurmus Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:35:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8fc2300eb10593b64c07975c10a553da9926ad88.camel@zrythm.org> References: <87405f5e561a3e4470703cbcc579f9b39c5d3a1e.camel@zrythm.org> <87zhfx3o35.fsf@elephly.net> <8fc2300eb10593b64c07975c10a553da9926ad88.camel@zrythm.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-RB3AAs1XzBxXC+gFTbXp" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38570 Cc: 38570@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-RB3AAs1XzBxXC+gFTbXp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ricardo, I apologize for my tone in the last message, it sounded like I was yelling at you. Would you still prefer to package these separately? It would need 43 new packages which isn't very efficient or worth the effort in my opinion considering that they are mostly very small/minimal plugins. Also, it would be great if you could have a look at this meta-package patch for installing all available lv2-plugins:=20 https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D38571 . Thanks, Alex On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 10:13 +0000, Alexandros Theodotou wrote: > Hi Ricardo, >=20 > Thanks for taking a look at this. >=20 > On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 10:11 +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > I think it=E2=80=99s better to err on the side of granularity here and > > provide > > the lv2 plugins as individual packages. > >=20 > > We could have a meta package that simply propagates all of the > > individual packages. >=20 > I think this is a very bad idea in this case, considering: > a) No one will ever want to install specific gxplugins. Usually > people > want to install the "gxplugin suite" - or even all available LV2 > plugins > b) There are !!!!!!43!!!!!! plugins here. Do you realize how painful > and unnecessary it would be to add and maintain these packages? > Especially considering the following point > c) The total installed file size for all of these is only 7mb > d) These are all from the same person, who explicitly provides a > meta- > repository for packagers so it makes sense to offer them in the same > package >=20 > If you insist though, I would likely just use my own channel for this > as I don't want to go through the trouble of adding 40 extra > packages, > each only a few KB in size. >=20 > Thanks, > Alex --=-RB3AAs1XzBxXC+gFTbXp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEESBMjhK0999huJUuDAi6uQjE9cPMFAl5VPskACgkQAi6uQjE9 cPNafQf/ceU69gGsrvD2+AMcc/XLmDN/P+crhDvTg+urBWC4FTElEMQijIrKJJKT 5QJjpiu7ROWuBWfAPzIdzdWhkOIKCWMy2N3asrw4EYzKzvfWjCheo/e29IpjEqLF J6l9YncMxLJkXO1ML+8dZ6TYRcx+qIpb/axcg8eolAgf3aknmxNqJDRAsVzDvQJr 3IDIXP4iU6C83lkV0H4FymT0nWgTWkNJKGWgBs9WlylytESAPUCr7O3C5f5o0B1P 3Xwj+B2ArDKspuFvzkFOP9LxVqpqGHacgXzwYHL4qTVjowL4J5EwwlRtTzabORx+ cKXkLYDA4NPYp0zeZulYbC9Op99iOw== =M5ny -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-RB3AAs1XzBxXC+gFTbXp--