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Make --pure the default for `guix environment'?

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38529: closed (Make --pure the default for `guix environment'?)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:29:02 +0000

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From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail <at> ambrevar.xyz>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'?
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:42:07 +0100

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--pure seems to be the more sensible behaviour.  "Impure" environments
can have unexpected behaviours, so it makes sense to only allow them
when the user explicitly asks for it.

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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail <at> ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, 38529-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'?
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 10:28:35 -0400

tags 38529 +wontfix
thanks

Hi,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Pierre Neidhardt <mail <at> ambrevar.xyz> writes:
>
>> --pure seems to be the more sensible behaviour.  "Impure" environments
>> can have unexpected behaviours, so it makes sense to only allow them
>> when the user explicitly asks for it.
>
> Unfortunately Guix packages often don't work well with --pure.  Be it
> magit that depends on git, or Emacs that depend or coreutils, etc.,
> there are many things that are expected to be propagated and aren't
> explicitly, by omission or sometimes for closure's size sake (when the
> feature is optional).  We could argue that is a good reason for the
> proposed change :-).
>
> I think environments are great mostly for hacking and trying stuff
> quickly, where the guarantees of Guix do not matter as much as for
> profiles (and if they did, you'd be better with guix environment
> --container anyway).
>
> So, I guess that makes me more on the side of "let's no change the
> defaults for now".

Closing this old forgotten issue as wontfix.

Thanks,

Maxim

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