From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.157569381822477 (code B ref -1); Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:44:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2019 04:43:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47257 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwP-0005qS-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:37 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwN-0005qL-Si for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41193) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwM-0007d9-Ms for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwK-0006hd-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:33 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwI-0002wt-FH; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman Message-Id: Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 02:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157577194414140 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 02:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 02:25:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmGV-0003g0-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43431) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmGU-0003fo-Ez for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:25:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idUyc-0000Ym-F7 for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 02:58:06 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1710 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idUyU-00073H-49; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 02:57:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 09:57:49 +0200 Message-Id: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500 > > Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? Which problem is that? From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 02:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157577352831968 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 02:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 02:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmg4-0008JY-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:52:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmg2-0008J4-1F for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:52:07 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1idmft-0001TW-0s; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:51:59 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:51:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 Dec 2019 09:57:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87eexfr0kz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? > > Which problem is that? Perhaps he's referring to debbugs.gnu.org being down periodically the past week or so. I assumed it had something to do with the DDOS attack reported earlier: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gnu.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? > > Which problem is that? Perhaps he's referring to debbugs.gnu.org being down periodically the past week or so. I assumed it had something to do with the DDOS attack reported earlier: https://savannah.nongnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9618 -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157577620619561 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 03:36:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idnNG-00055R-4E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:36:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idnNE-00055E-RA for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:36:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idnMu-0002kK-Tr; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:36:25 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2113 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idnMg-0008CQ-Gl; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:36:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 05:35:52 +0200 Message-Id: <83fthvebfr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87eexfr0kz.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:51:56 +0100) References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexfr0kz.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rms@gnu.org, 38517@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 03:51:56 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? > > > > Which problem is that? > > Perhaps he's referring to debbugs.gnu.org being down periodically the > past week or so. I assumed it had something to do with the DDOS attack > reported earlier: > > https://savannah.nongnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9618 That was reported already, several times. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 04:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org, sysadmin@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157577912424259 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 04:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 04:25:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ido8K-0006JC-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 23:25:24 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:58853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ido8H-0006Iv-B3; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 23:25:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1575779114; bh=oCbB4c+ts8sAKe9SbbwcDZswUUoyi0tA56Vw6FUgOXQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=idTtb/vEamgR9G1MFE48+gSrhv+H5sdnzWfPlr363Ly+O8eFojx/4irBQQAB1pVez 833v0rUq+cYCU18k43wFp20ljfJRPvFybqRcjrSCM/IWD+71D2RxC/9Jk3JzQ69lwX JcTd1TvD6EfZ3mBXj9am9/F7QVVQ8S3RDT5jMZTU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([178.20.95.77]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MLzFx-1iLjaq2ku9-00HzR2; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 11:37:13 +0100 From: Michael Albinus References: Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 11:37:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500") Message-ID: <87o8wkbew7.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:BE2dXzm78kqMJm9nGHauB8fY1fcXVL5chp21XQa0XzR5NNwoKnP MsrXbn99ChGRxjA2Q9SrsJRA7CScJIhtqWf1ewDA5wPXUpEiStKqwzLa6b0T+vHziSw7OLd xFo9mMzMytrJZg0exezbLRxLEPIs54yRu1ODBfi2++EvRYMFCjGUypqirin6ilLsmhHrZF0 szMnunsE+0GDivN2iZpDA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:O1r+/I8o3Ik=:EMZfFHHHgnbq9zghk+++n1 Er3sTdLWf69/mUUVaLygYt53Yki8vuCEHCrkqhO7L9X8qCcmbCExhWwFOnoDJW1DPlXZOYKJE AcwPlfbl2TJwKf+X/s3Jv+pCR+e3RYfVRiKn1RPSc1R26pn+anqpsdBVl8TqcYvsWQhGPrANO ODaB/G4nCL2u/g99eP4EoA8iWvVjnJJfFsAR1AywpHeIiua6D8kDL58qI1p0Waufgw7ypcfCE mdTXIvwG6P7q7MXLhXsxmp3+qfjQyrXlowMHEHXFQcZAkzhcQiOgG9kFyZJ9KsmIH2G+ziVwe +8X9nI/xD5YSLtOodXNRlkXWjjNBtvGUvnG/l3gA9+KSveBwNTPmZC8fMwdCX4Hci1oly3uRC xglv6/IF79zyXL79jQ5+J38HBKGVAv3HPb5Kc1uZWzYMYeLH/8bVCqV46nvYjH/5gkGTHSdVa bfAGIJ3dgerBIqRnmpXE/XCi4ZHENBSHwOIjR1WYzNL8F3yrhy7BxUs1YuiT5qDYx7Emjse42 Jn/KuyS03qMSqZbAu8uKElKycB5pPbB9qc+AGAgrjC93jKCY/rSZeR6pmmTfmRn0BAAYYmai8 81HvCkDS0CSKvrlIwMWF54M8re7IDMWzF1L3HjGYcc82dIyi6/brRp13kpoT7YAiIMtsY5GBJ XamyPUnv6COUM/gQRvhbwysMRhjJlHCjMzItBlkTKAT3srpWhjTdWpCemCF3QK8J635gCFnPY lSkqghuHwa+kStkt+02fuSD+M0oLV2YoxlUDm8C3AtSwsvK0xHvw1OvbWYqlawlbTlvu6A+Y1 YbEI1GuQUyQ8WytUbEzEY4is51PBYBElXBOzNFlkz6/sPhEfg29QcVUHpOTQM2KVmMkIa0KpR k0HpH8g7PSGO/lp0aT3utrO1WfdGRqPbc76W81ztPkBE9xG+PhwxaXpifO6ctUHd3qPmYCb1n V8Lo6MYPvvYswmZNJ42UlIjkmh9y4QGHuVBhYBQf8w5lVhZ85UzMNTSrmTkN2bErZfP1FLQMC h0haqpdCEY7OQff4yBr16Y4Bac3S7plo3O1XaoPnyxn3jBVO+h5hmY9bR3YKuCz0N8sRpT0W1 T+mBInqRT6N41eqU3ZPTMWB5nths8blc8RzZVhkFXiHzoD+VHPr03xNzjdhoRnkR3KAgRecAT kRmVrVN+gw9DduNlK+a1sOGAYlBP6iDW3RXXoExYxiVMMLV1iDg+quCr+sXI3LDY2a0jOcJPb QVt93312jNkQf20VqKj4PcwJqUcIj2xCcrL0NhVRMr77T34UcBdKAJUvj+9I= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Richard Stallman writes: Hi Richard, > Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? Sorry, due to health problems I couldn't read everything last weeks. Which problem do you mean? Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 05:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157578206428868 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 05:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 05:14:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50330 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idotk-0007VY-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idoti-0007VL-TT for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idotd-0005Ic-Oc for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:17 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idotb-0006sP-0u; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:15 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 07 Dec 2019 09:57:49 +0200) References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:15 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? > Which problem is that? I responded to a message which said the site was not responding. It responded to another person who had said the same thing. I don't know what the problem was -- those details were in other messages -- but the point doesn't depend on the details of the bug. The point is to report outages of debbugs.gnu.org to the people who can actually fix them: the sysadmins. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: rms@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: closed (Re: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 38517 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 05:40:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1575783602-31284-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1575783602-31284-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #38517: debbugs.gnu.org which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 38517@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 38517: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D38517 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1575783602-31284-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 38517-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 05:39:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idpHl-00087U-7F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:39:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idpHj-00087I-TX for 38517-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:39:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idpHe-0005ET-16 for 38517-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:39:06 -0500 Received: from [109.253.218.96] (port=31855 helo=[10.134.197.159]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idpHW-0006F1-D0; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:38:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 07:38:55 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org,Richard Stallman From: Eli Zaretskii Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38517-done Cc: 38517-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On December 8, 2019 7:14:15 AM GMT+02:00, Richard Stallman = wrote: >=20 > > > Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg to > sysadmin@gnu=2Eorg? >=20 > > Which problem is that? >=20 > I responded to a message which said the site was not responding=2E It > responded to another person who had said the same thing=2E I don't know > what the problem was -- those details were in other messages -- but > the point doesn't depend on the details of the bug=2E >=20 > The point is to report outages of debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg to the people who > can actually fix them: the sysadmins=2E In the future, please don't change the Subject line when you respond to me= ssages of this mailing list, because doing so causes debbugs to create a ne= w bug report, and that loses the thread information which would allow us to= understand the context=2E Especially if you don't quote any parts of the = message to which you responded=2E ------------=_1575783602-31284-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2019 04:43:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47257 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwP-0005qS-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:37 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwN-0005qL-Si for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41193) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwM-0007d9-Ms for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwK-0006hd-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:33 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idRwI-0002wt-FH; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman to: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: debbugs.gnu.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:43:30 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to sysadmin@gnu.org? -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) ------------=_1575783602-31284-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.157579640310842 (code B ref 38517); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 09:13:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idsd1-0002oo-4H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 04:13:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:39681) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idscv-0002oU-Ht for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 04:13:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1575796388; bh=EwVyLB4Ygy36d/Ac3v9tT/1FgUNzrnAUjjCTSi9mcFg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=IAg23ISLbzW9gwAtQTmcPGICN9WOXKLcgIZaPY3EdKpxwX1nfNd0vtdbrNmH562/3 6uIlw3xmNMOwzhje5E0zwDnNdEmdWjfmA1MrtF6aCHSX3Y1jlsPQs4y/1qTxsUgYSX sWURiwelfR8OLEpP9eZ5MU61xqgkrhxtP93wVOT8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([178.20.95.77]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MRmfi-1iBr701v6Q-00TDig; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 10:13:08 +0100 From: Michael Albinus References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 10:13:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:14:15 -0500") Message-ID: <87d0cz5gf0.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ZXoodCYDOi2bOPvUQT234/+8xtZijmKaC6+wf4ADH4SwgJjZm8f E2K9QJXwJ2+gE9lItCu0rJmwfPczA3YTKGEJBOkwdEVwptBbVTbJYgxEuDQ03zv4Y0NSBr0 dMnk6fKsBQOs7yPO1Dq+R3BqkqCsmZ3pLTA7AMKns5JuOVtrDizmN7UqQp2DtLDoLSTRyDu 0sPmCrqqMTaJNJGDgvl1w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RV9UBLAljHM=:Q0c2GdOBU150Q8AtkjlCCt RWYAk32lTkcc62W3jP+JYtsEyad9eNFRGeP0bTEH2YVWUqkFPQLaL+aKPMR0wiqpmovZCds/p c/AIT2NTBeREkxQX7Kv8ySpsiIrmhoue/jFr6698Kt8LFlShNk5lUoVact5EiQay3043sKJpQ xXDd6bljL6YiGitlrwR0fG/diuAzZWQNrn9ItBZHiCFynN/26Z1ic8ogenAISsTOlRGdDyLMl D0myAwbsL9SDKHeB0HfQ+c8nugmUXidI5AaE8rT7e5Kqa3YPNxe5gjBeeBsW8MFFJfoZ3yBwp wkJoqfIBMfzlVIj1mKq/551c+siyt1Jp2Pui0xkn72VvCSDOcsfKaV+A2gA/Vlw0vLWrhKWwv HZa+TqPxTVD/3A2V12q9ZvoahHlW3humgYcqN3ftV4hTBxMJGiXDY4233/l+RAt8ipWjgdGfm R52i+jSjKxJwNapN+SO8vR0GGh6oOry+sgy1LR++vyB0zCb4OaMSvMHWm1w80veRq/mYU1v6I +lmRP7mQkWMqxW9Vh5FxVqjCfe5/cm6Yw8dAkLFaU2HHAJ8x9pgX0QN7r69f++/J/JtX49Hcz 4ThNpL3Zj0ap6RVMzfPMxMoinmlOc4OCqq6qqrba+8xg0nN73FjaJIBqKqDWVonUGNbIqRSII y6TBU1WpY02PtmNwupqpWsAwZssOjg4m3DR9jEcdwXL5o7OA/dHZMNdYKDqNUOu+bppvuFbEv MfY62bPvFUMzpOnOM4O13dIR8pWtLbqEk4jyEeHKJDC68xsBGv5ik/lThJxBqhBn6/nap1Pfk Z33S4T4nZL8y4EsUvHRFKVN0TZbMCNt/uCNpN168SxJ3IIkGQ8d5JRzn9+XdF6N1HZxUNev16 NE4rtDV8hyikIS+MLosgN0AhX0ut6uv9rSmdviWK8HInQaZ0ngMpwJn3Qa3TBfxIsW6Z9+HOx 543qB76KK2DBoLkQLI9LHlsqyw/QSJRPzOAg22R8MnY+9SZdDf3oN2Bjy03+itEs1yYvsSWMl X3TnJMvVrPSyMNx9yYOFP3JO3XnzbU3NpTy3cZVupCwauUUGkEZY97zGt0rySUeSYU6RJAtrB KxCnP1RpqF1QLDj/XgBDb8QItt4SJT6iiJjy4RrwLjdF4I5sKFfrefVSeHye2uco4j7d06LfG +jAX1ISoxU60p9LVPYLRsC6oWP3WH+xOrQ113CfQEGNY/s4621mXO1krGVzFMmFJqtEFRL2wh Bvf1SZrJbhORuZc6iCHxHZfplDnXEZC+yzK687wloWEmqV/z5vRAnN55bZLg= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Richard Stallman writes: > > > Has anyone reported the problem with debbugs.gnu.org to > > > sysadmin@gnu.org? > > > Which problem is that? > > I responded to a message which said the site was not responding. It > responded to another person who had said the same thing. I don't know > what the problem was -- those details were in other messages -- but > the point doesn't depend on the details of the bug. > > The point is to report outages of debbugs.gnu.org to the people who > can actually fix them: the sysadmins. Bob Proulx has restarted spamd on debbugs.gnu.org, which was down, and which blocked exim4. Emails are now going through. The reason, why spamd ceased to work are unknown (at least to me). debbugs.gnu.org needs to be observed carefully next time. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#38517: debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 05:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 38517@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 38517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38517.15758700943145 (code B ref 38517); Mon, 09 Dec 2019 05:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 38517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2019 05:41:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52510 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieBna-0000of-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:41:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieBnY-0000oR-Ep for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:41:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieBnT-000078-9Z for 38517@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:41:27 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ieBnI-0007Jv-Su; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:41:17 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 08 Dec 2019 07:38:55 +0200) References: <83lfroftz6.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:41:16 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In the future, please don't change the Subject line when you respond to messages of this mailing list, I will try to remember, but usually people recommend changing the Subject field when changing to a different topic. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)