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[71.207.8.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 201sm14224609qkf.10.2019.12.01.20.45.11 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Dec 2019 20:45:11 -0800 (PST) From: Yuan Fu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3601.0.10\)) Subject: 27.0.50; Portable dumper error: smuggled pointers Message-Id: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 23:45:10 -0500 To: Bug Report Emacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To reproduce: $ emacs -q ;; in Emacs (dump-emacs-portable "~/attic/emacs.pdmp") ;; error: ;; progn: unsupported object type in dump: smuggled pointers I also tried to run temacs, and the same error occured. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-apple-darwin19.0.0, NS = appkit-1894.10 Version 10.15.1 (Build 19B88)) of 2019-11-30 built on missSilver Repository revision: e2828795d73637577c7726965974a047fe2d7119 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1894 System Description: Mac OS X 10.15.1 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Quit progn: unsupported object type in dump: smuggled pointers Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --with-pdumper=3Dyes = --oldincludedir=3D/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/Mac= OSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/libxml2/' Configured features: NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS NS MODULES THREADS PDUMPER LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_CN.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Mon, 02 Dec 2019 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Yuan Fu Subject: Re: bug#38453: 27.0.50; Portable dumper error: smuggled pointers References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 09:39:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> (Yuan Fu's message of "Sun, 1 Dec 2019 23:45:10 -0500") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453 Cc: 38453@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 23:45:10 -0500, Yuan Fu said: Yuan> To reproduce: Yuan> $ emacs -q Yuan> ;; in Emacs Yuan> (dump-emacs-portable "~/attic/emacs.pdmp") Yuan> ;; error: Yuan> ;; progn: unsupported object type in dump: smuggled pointers I don=CA=BCt think that=CA=BCs meant to work from an interactive Emacs. Try: emacs -q --batch --eval '(dump-emacs-portable "~/attic/emacs.pdmp")' Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 02 10:10:57 2019 Received: (at 38453) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2019 15:10:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ibnLl-000783-GJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 10:10:57 -0500 Received: from mail-qk1-f178.google.com ([209.85.222.178]:42378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ibnLj-00077h-T5 for 38453@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 10:10:56 -0500 Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id a10so9829225qko.9 for <38453@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:10:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=OY551JryXPLHUReRl7Yl6mAqcl2BxiD06JOSLv+Dmns=; b=lUISH/GqLukRqvstkH2Yycja5phvzSUekeeF4M4jk46K60g3hNgu2XFHYQxXMiyLH9 iXw/c/nSeVtDzUR/Tk782CVOnn3aJw/hG5rTXzCjxZHqSINx7nrvRcegE9I5RY0v7MTl vlgP7HA0L8pGtd6Q+TRW6TBFPcRQ4swm1Ogu+UsVHwt2tGnBpjxt0Kt50668fkA8FRmf jspRsLBL8lzuDKwQGfjmIS4K35UHYZpE6S6U7inGhfzhDg10pI8nlq7WBIBDs+lr8gFp fzY15+rRKvtLIHfs/KnzSPQkzC4OGEeiEAbfonuT2QQwnK3a44QyToVxZnu/s9Pptbxr Azbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=OY551JryXPLHUReRl7Yl6mAqcl2BxiD06JOSLv+Dmns=; b=VSAKnBWvTUOhOG1PE+hbrAugcyFq12i1JUiz4Dv0uuBLU8Piu9fkJcuVspQO5bpnn/ p2OKKI2/f++pxt8rygzwMnNOp4a0bAEWU+386LhPuwHB8euuq6zKymIqPTfAdUNzM9hK mWrzXPz2Xu1NvEBT1EhxCpa7YvwvZ/d6FdK2vlM8pfkJan48s2mt1KIV+rR6U05ZibeA DSTk+ETyoSLnTNd2gayNm2alr8zvZ9vliLDn9PhA/4j7mQdgxf/yH0oU3FE5/G+auisF B9EY/EOYa1G5zs2FNJ0lqwO+PeivCuJp+0hVQ7+ZaPOZxXIro6QdXLGU4CThHLE1fV5I HdcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXa8c9Cnzale76t92XO5A8wW5CXuDraiD7wXzuwazsvgTwDGwZK 19IPa7EV5kY1LQHnYA4EX5U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzlPxeXqHL4o5UDDEqC+5Vpzg1eD/CVjFCoXGGvoHSz/DskgQvoEKUwFSQwV8iR0MJx3NxYuQ== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e707:: with SMTP id m7mr17403972qka.320.1575299450154; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [104.39.219.94] ([104.39.219.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y184sm264801qkd.128.2019.12.02.07.10.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:10:45 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3601.0.10\)) Subject: Re: bug#38453: 27.0.50; Portable dumper error: smuggled pointers From: Yuan Fu In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:10:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0792F09D-FDB5-44FA-B835-6F6454DCC002@gmail.com> References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> To: Robert Pluim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453 Cc: 38453@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) Thanks. It works now. I think the manual or the docstring should mention = this tho. Yuan= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 02 11:12:58 2019 Received: (at 38453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2019 16:12:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38824 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iboJm-0000WA-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:12:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44543) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iboJl-0000Vy-3r for 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:12:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iboJf-0005Vo-Ul; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:12:51 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3834 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iboJd-0006k4-Sx; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:12:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:12:39 +0200 Message-Id: <83pnh6ln9k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Yuan Fu In-reply-to: <0792F09D-FDB5-44FA-B835-6F6454DCC002@gmail.com> (message from Yuan Fu on Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:10:40 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#38453: 27.0.50; Portable dumper error: smuggled pointers References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> <0792F09D-FDB5-44FA-B835-6F6454DCC002@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453-done Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Yuan Fu > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:10:40 -0500 > Cc: 38453@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thanks. It works now. I think the manual or the docstring should mention this tho. The manual does mention that. 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[2a01:cb04:10f:c800:a996:6e0b:19f9:2b66]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c1sm9271302wrs.24.2019.12.04.11.23.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Dec 2019 11:23:44 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= To: 38453@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Error out if dumping while interactive? Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 20:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453 Cc: Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) AFAICT Fdump_emacs explicitly checks for this: > if (! noninteractive) > error ("Dumping Emacs works only in batch mode"); Maybe Fdump_emacs_portable should do the same=E2=80=A6 or maybe the check s= hould be moved somewhere in loadup.el? (I hope I am not misunderstanding the issue at hand; my apologies if so.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 23 14:52:14 2019 Received: (at 38453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2019 19:52:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTkT-0000Gb-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 14:52:14 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com ([209.85.210.51]:36414) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTkS-0000GP-Kx for 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 14:52:13 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id 19so10914952otz.3 for <38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:52:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uGRkAnJVwP9TJSqPCQYcrxt9v33z7UCRGAot0oK9314=; b=id2Tc/o2AUTIBkq0xn3Tonpmqc8sB78jThRwH8dZyvefeTUNkIXVewQxpaSPwRfAT2 tNoWnozVLrZt/ZyVCgDan6UkGy3FEAvM8YDPZRVYefUzX1Ey6LTY1t1aA5v8Fnf6k/tp YHPVuEBUTbQoD2a7Bp8RUyqAHnamXUExy8YCZzLxkvCWZkG38+GvXhjTkPapjo/4Kb9u FCCAU0d8qBqGWCFEiSrwX3iYsq6F+I51/nmttaL7JhrvciqfX4RRZrJ9A1MmYUBWZt6/ o7Tjai7yIHzMOuoJLl6C0fkdHuSU6KeVjKivoQY3b7h4m3l+IVFvaBfO+P6ac9H6uFn9 rb6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uGRkAnJVwP9TJSqPCQYcrxt9v33z7UCRGAot0oK9314=; b=ShE6oOlqIMOB0lOdCuqnVTxFa2qBYySeVvyJgf4KlZbZR4bHqxp2HOINDQNTz1Nj2k DY3hPZA6Q+Igd7R3vz2FBLFy8A5LREs5yF5ACky01H7KEzrB6GpFXheBqH2uTg85PsZw VYziNYd/xauNKmrIxjMwq4Zp9LlPtBnNPeIeiROC78p6gpcq/kQLhkyWuUfzwsEoep02 hE/lmXjVLWWTASal+UU4ewyYayblDiLLLNi+PJNUzvgKLs2DBJwAa/hErnQQNE0YSqR+ 7qHCcZfZAlwostTslg5o0UoRt33HEwyf+/1buvaDMbl4CZoEKQIq9otsBw+pwXN7F33j 8WaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUCjilXOSjfG8blDp8GR0GwEcnTPx1nuUqsqWMv3zEGQt1mhHwi ID4/V+W0OvDhSRs6WQh7DkK/RLEaEhs1nFZFgCg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz0KQp4kDwXSF42IocdIyNd9De236z5+QHl/5EXknSgVcVwLuecZEcoXnwZfKMM3135ZkCL60jGPVA2G9UEU/Q= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:2073:: with SMTP id n106mr24908486ota.145.1577130726807; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:52:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> From: Philipp Stephani Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38453: Error out if dumping while interactive? To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453-done Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Am Mi., 4. Dez. 2019 um 20:24 Uhr schrieb K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec : > > AFAICT Fdump_emacs explicitly checks for this: > > > if (! noninteractive) > > error ("Dumping Emacs works only in batch mode"); > > Maybe Fdump_emacs_portable should do the same=E2=80=A6 or maybe the check= should > be moved somewhere in loadup.el? Sounds reasonable, I've now fixed with with commit e7edba42c8. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 23 15:04:32 2019 Received: (at 38453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2019 20:04:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTwO-0000YL-0o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:04:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTwM-0000Y9-PT for 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:04:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33129) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTwF-0000At-IM; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:04:24 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1199 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ijTwE-00072s-PJ; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:04:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 22:04:07 +0200 Message-Id: <83r20ux0zs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Philipp Stephani In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:51:55 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38453: Error out if dumping while interactive? References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453-done Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:51:55 +0100 > Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > AFAICT Fdump_emacs explicitly checks for this: > > > > > if (! noninteractive) > > > error ("Dumping Emacs works only in batch mode"); > > > > Maybe Fdump_emacs_portable should do the same… or maybe the check should > > be moved somewhere in loadup.el? > > Sounds reasonable, I've now fixed with with commit e7edba42c8. I think it's misguided, since we intend to lift this limitation in some future release. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 23 15:14:52 2019 Received: (at 38453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2019 20:14:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijU6O-0000mY-8b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:14:52 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:43738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijU6M-0000mA-J8 for 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:14:50 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id p8so23430719oth.10 for <38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:14:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xCsMBPMH5kuw7cYcna5+QVeLKMEHNPQ+Ld4hvOM77II=; b=Sp6xhNeboILAuen9gSznPfB9YoLZV+/VLzlIYSt+0x+SpPHDxg/qtM/j+guurghYYn rHyxKFmIscwVUjKl9WWMpq4W+VF7BTi9aFQDm4slAFg9EK3NHHLnClF+T2sZRfCoCbcZ 07CByPNL2EIAFWHdDnrxyUTaojAZxAqJehMdJLMW7K8cUsDZ0dlYv5GGBkAur6/c9x+1 jzMyw2/S1DUOeUWnr5+5YTJvOCHdyvvE5hqtAt5tbW4DPXj+Hh8ofEf3ltEcDHaVtS2/ GGIicqb3MbWbjde87UpTPrNl3AMiaNxr4xf6JocaTh73xbWGRV3pOdVcp2hzR6AoPKP4 qgRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xCsMBPMH5kuw7cYcna5+QVeLKMEHNPQ+Ld4hvOM77II=; b=kpaiQQC0I95WnKs6Njl8YzOmYAyhKpxR2EzG/J0/pJebr5vuez1UTOWAq2gd1nQ1Ns 4nOo8+KaDssJePVlkTb39UAz5F2UdM07Qs165kNE0tlp0sU38BDe7CqhtGNJy108Og3U Qd/PQlGS9weqelLkqUxUqebnDZUnyuv719ZgKENlBNZA7sdilmOHUUGqrf1eXZmrKylq fWXS8HDflvrkVlVzhBAM054RwDm98jVb7pqlsUlTVIxfXFF9IytIM2WrUMLsXfb3xo2o aRTHLMNQK/yjlidq8Hf4dipBBHCKa7MAR6jiN/uQIPNMrFWggBOJrD5pbJfrjvZ9V/Dx syrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXQQZ6SYfd42a2WgCZuRfWU2UX9dge/rU5LqHbEpBPHFccx8oqs +55Y97LaQ3fukNlkLAe8wdD53EHqyjMcR5y9cx9uKahr X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqypQDht9Yk8PDX7XfD7d47hJGuJUr09SdeAnOc1fwDPjoXP4TVfZ+yMCr9ENMXC4FFYfYa0MZirI3OHkJs4TEo= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:10d:: with SMTP id 13mr32842167otu.149.1577132084954; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:14:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> <83r20ux0zs.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83r20ux0zs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Philipp Stephani Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:14:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38453: Error out if dumping while interactive? To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453-done Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Am Mo., 23. Dez. 2019 um 21:04 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii : > > > From: Philipp Stephani > > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:51:55 +0100 > > Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > AFAICT Fdump_emacs explicitly checks for this: > > > > > > > if (! noninteractive) > > > > error ("Dumping Emacs works only in batch mode"); > > > > > > Maybe Fdump_emacs_portable should do the same=E2=80=A6 or maybe the c= heck should > > > be moved somewhere in loadup.el? > > > > Sounds reasonable, I've now fixed with with commit e7edba42c8. > > I think it's misguided, since we intend to lift this limitation in > some future release. If and when we lift it, we can remove the error again. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 23 15:19:31 2019 Received: (at 38453-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2019 20:19:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51698 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijUAt-0000tt-5U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:19:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47481) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ijUAr-0000tg-GH for 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:19:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ijUAm-0006G9-CS; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:19:24 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2196 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ijUAl-0005zt-Ou; Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:19:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 22:19:08 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8vyx0ar.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Philipp Stephani In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:14:33 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38453: Error out if dumping while interactive? References: <789D3E0E-425C-46F3-96AD-72AAE7CB9084@gmail.com> <87eexjj3nk.fsf@gmail.com> <83r20ux0zs.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38453-done Cc: 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:14:33 +0100 > Cc: Kévin Le Gouguec , > 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I think it's misguided, since we intend to lift this limitation in > > some future release. > > If and when we lift it, we can remove the error again. Given the error message, people will think it's a limitation that cannot be easily removed, so the chances of its being removed are much lower, especially a few years from now. 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Dez. 2019 um 21:19 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii : > > > From: Philipp Stephani > > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:14:33 +0100 > > Cc: K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec , > > 38453-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > I think it's misguided, since we intend to lift this limitation in > > > some future release. > > > > If and when we lift it, we can remove the error again. > > Given the error message, people will think it's a limitation that > cannot be easily removed, so the chances of its being removed are much > lower, especially a few years from now. I've now reworded the error message to make this a bit clearer. From unknown Fri Sep 12 09:56:13 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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