GNU bug report logs - #38392
zap-up-to-char should appear in "Deletion and Killing" Emacs info section and "Command Index"

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38392: closed (zap-up-to-char should appear in "Deletion and
 Killing" Emacs info section and "Command Index")
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 10:20:01 +0000

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From: Justin Paston-Cooper <paston.cooper <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: zap-up-to-char should appear in "Deletion and Killing" Emacs info
 section and "Command Index"
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:34:37 +0100

Hello,

According to the documentation, zap-up-to-char allows one to kill up
to, but not including ARGth occurrence of CHAR. No reference is made
to zap-up-to-char in
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Killing.html
or https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Command-Index.html.

It isn't immediately apparent from the documentation on zap-to-char in
the above sections, and also from the source of zap-to-char, that
there exists a way of zapping up to a char without writing this code
manually. I couldn't find any combination of keys, either, to press
after pressing M-z which would result in the same functionality.

It took me quite a while to come across zap-up-to-char. Could
documentation for this function be added to the Emacs manual?

Kind regards,

Justin

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>
Cc: 38392-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38392: zap-up-to-char should appear in "Deletion and Killing"
 Emacs info section and "Command Index"
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:19:15 +0200

> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:45:20 +1300
> From: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>
> 
> Eli wrote:
> > I'm not sure we should have it in the manual.  The fact that you
> > wanted it doesn't yet mean it's useful enough to have in the manual.
> > 
> > Does anyone else have an opinion?
> 
> Mentioning only one of the two commands just seems arbitrary,
> so I think it should be either "both" or "neither" for the sake
> of consistency.
> 
> I think the manual should mention both of them, and that their
> docstrings should probably mention one another as well, so that
> users can learn about these alternatives more easily.

Thanks, done (I only added the reference to the doc string of
zap-to-char, though).

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