From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:17:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#38367 <38367@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#38367 <38367@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 Reply-To: bug#38367 <38367@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:17:43 +0000 retitle 38367 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs= 26.1 reassign 38367 emacs submitter 38367 Drew Adams severity 38367 normal tag 38367 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 07:56:05 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2019 12:56:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZDuO-0005Tr-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 07:56:05 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZDqT-0005JQ-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Mon, 25 Nov 2019 02:21:22 +0000 Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xAP2LL0O019133 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 02:21:22 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:21:20 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4927.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9451 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911250019 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9451 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911250019 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.78 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) This is the case starting with Emacs 26.1. It is still the case with Emacs 26.3. I create a shortcut in Windows 10 with the executable as Target: Y:\Emacs-26\bin\runemacs -Q -nw I double-click that shortcut. Nothing seems to happen. In the Task Manager I see a background process that corresponds, named "GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor", but there is no Emacs window. This works in all previous releases I have, from Emacs 20.7 through Emacs 25.3.1. In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 17:49:25 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2019 22:49:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZNAb-000421-Ju for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:49:25 -0500 Received: from mail-qv1-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:38430) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZNAZ-00041o-TN for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:49:24 -0500 Received: by mail-qv1-f41.google.com with SMTP id q19so6487360qvs.5 for <38367@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:49:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=R1XW2DcSHN1OyKaabCw0iKR/0GmyRD8Xj76KRfs3s5U=; b=qG9QEq/t1RkfDOVvun91+xyr8gA2uCMZ+ZkEhNNkmGpm+YkwQvjUjYP51LlOLMlbk1 s/DTftTqPJlU91AwKCKglah5fp8ho1uE+Iuz+cSfP7Xrb0JssOmw7M5sw7wKMmj9HOwC Aljs6I+IAeLHZ6nOj4TpAl3HB0dIGPPQtuHPMu8KelVdOA/Zd22hok7lslNYcWWv6mBY EGZmJT4KPgB/Xf0snUOnQB+Bl0TC5J9xa7MFsqAPKK4pEWtJ72Fq/et0P6aui3Fk86/W ZZam6ArY82a6Asg5jKQ8izAm+doMhqi5AutTi2bpuTTLr+xmIvpbRGzzRslw7DhhebvF gagg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=R1XW2DcSHN1OyKaabCw0iKR/0GmyRD8Xj76KRfs3s5U=; b=MHMeGZHyDhp28HYEnYGZMmXeddbKvS16GVEbVVrHCEu8AhmOFLIVjv+vgT9WS+jGLn 9lzZlJjCP/rKCAq6fPjlx+ASDgc1JPZxIiHniScSAwR+HZt/gDNlAeuz9/R000I0Nuki sz5EqsHge4MYOKblvwba1HX5BlEloXSFfuB34FDV6pIjr/cQyQZM8cgsDaHzqEnleZsP rsoIISVlkHH2pSlLwAdpWa/l9nyUbsaNxiYkHIQ2FK+khOuhmfszXVmDpdIvWBkKMvD8 usw7yFdnnB3Fv5Xs0BOFCT5Xw5kHz4ddxzkZyfFtda1/B8ZRTMFR6xamJsTSyRb0v/XQ AJ5w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV5tvdBpfUd0GElN3bqQBQi659uU8rdiOm/Grj6fxmyvkZz8awH h00tB1RulrM+DS9WdMqwQAtC9bXYXEcqpaUHFGE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxm5YCz3pDSBMD8xCPpAHerYjIvgs511eH+Ie6rFX4kahe6vklO5ao4BUsmx32Ukph/YKurKGd4Rp3w2esoq8Y= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:450a:: with SMTP id k10mr13776385qvu.136.1574722158225; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:49:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> In-Reply-To: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 23:48:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 To: Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dc6e4805983392f0" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000dc6e4805983392f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:36 PM Drew Adams wrote: > This works in all previous releases I have, from Emacs 20.7 through > Emacs 25.3.1. Did it? I don't have a release of 25.3 at hand, but I have one of 24.5 and the effect is the same. Which isn't surprising, as runemacs' only use is to start an Emacs hidding the console window. Why don't you do the shortcut with just emacs.exe, instead of runemacs.exe? --000000000000dc6e4805983392f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:36 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:=

> This works in all previous releases I have, from Emacs 20= .7 through
> Emacs 25.3.1.

Did it? I don't have= a release of 25.3 at hand, but I have one of 24.5 and the effect is the sa= me.

Which isn't surprising, as runemacs' o= nly use is to start an Emacs hidding the console window.

Why don't you do the shortcut with just emacs.exe, instead of ru= nemacs.exe?
--000000000000dc6e4805983392f0-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 19:56:13 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2019 00:56:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP9I-0000pp-DZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:56:13 -0500 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:55626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZP9G-0000pb-5G for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:56:11 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAQ0sgdp133856; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:56:04 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=L21WBgHkp9QaT5XzAI7pUNYeVhdBt0aZxCLmfK5G1jE=; b=Uosp+JIO779OnGfI3gJj4GJYtVHSs1a1nH42TObgKC0Xd2BTARQ9DPtTYLkGnGtKwGFT uX3Vh4g4JI9OkJq01XkObyV7t4sPkcUf16hKK573dtP7TZL+8Mc9Tw4L0n8qfE3TwS2C jmu3o+KED5KXUGKgRdazAOP03kXQC7uIJWY7uKdHEgTU216ZMJElJmOWHoz2krpCE+Qb 56pWNqm+L1MvTUfFw+hMCwgUPlQg/8KSNGCBz4AoLlQbhwWv0MtVQtruLJQLo4gn10E+ cjRgv95qUOSfQ/JecMZ7zHD2n5f/IdfNqxWrSTAW58kuwrppzzNR0j7jxcj4Zso5I10M dw== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2wewdr32a6-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:56:03 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAQ0sCn5065091; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:56:02 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2wfe9jv5at-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:56:02 +0000 Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id xAQ0twLd004299; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:56:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Juanma Barranquero Subject: RE: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4927.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9452 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=954 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911260004 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9452 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911260004 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> This works in all previous releases I have, >> from Emacs 20.7 through Emacs 25.3.1. > > Did it? I don't have a release of 25.3 at > hand, but I have one of 24.5 and the effect > is the same. 24.5 works fine for me with -nw. > Which isn't surprising, as runemacs' only use > is to start an Emacs hidding the console window. That's what I've used for -nw in the past. But I just tried plain `emacs' for -nw, and that works too. (I use plain `emacs' for GUI.) > Why don't you do the shortcut with just > emacs.exe, instead of runemacs.exe? I already tried that too. Should 've mentioned it in the bug report. Does Emacs 26 on Windows 10 work for you with -nw? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 21:45:49 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2019 02:45:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZQrN-0007Zk-H6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:45:49 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f171.google.com ([209.85.160.171]:34751) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZQrL-0007ZV-So for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:45:48 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f171.google.com with SMTP id i17so19786065qtq.1 for <38367@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 18:45:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kdPJuQMkgedfkf+6lxQmQeFCIp8mr2VlKivbfcDtaD0=; b=qKZtnPEAswv8p8WgRO4rM6Ivn15hZ4EDX2Ydi0LnyuCmY3mEf4gI5QecHiKYIHClEY RFfkVFOF9TONKt1y3Si1RD7sE6k9Y07aaC9YXSGoddCWhjmSeRzcNpWPsdFPMjlUtPp1 LYWYQjDMeKw6cY3AKOoQiJjDwKni8SxAnq7pwIxg5OOouWasHYZHFf/xeN5EwdJymY27 vNLMUMcuMrCHFwYUI1beOiX2VsdWFHc4xAi5/G+Jbhe1Q2F68rrxdeKpSZB61mnv+WXZ vfc9zV7qy9IVPiLyHdMuTwd5HyMXqmYEHWYBZefx9jbSW2fZZScZ1ER0Hct1vfbzXz3S RcQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kdPJuQMkgedfkf+6lxQmQeFCIp8mr2VlKivbfcDtaD0=; b=A1CFjwDYMQA4Fr2ry2hyjsC9QWvoEPFVwG5kFRHxCzFSn63EuHVOgpEm5sVVzxPRRv lgvAM26osBD5H5FnRguNlwMdyTg6EvOMcs1rFolzCTFbJbhollyirRfJh6QTpiHK3gUm E3I/9/8wcU95QtJ4E+Zbfroly+QbNIabVhGlBti6exWCxNak2TBrqD6eopYDlML7FFo4 1Pk9arEs7GGGoo0vQI6tFzA0IYRf6ze2iAZ8r76jaZBpNZkaKn9WycO7uNj5tDugAIqB P2zkqu3M+Tngo/LI50+ixYu6fWdOlUDpGxIx0ph87Dmt6oAGhIHVK2l79XT9/3LsgmeR ebTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWppNqVJ9KMPTOoFfn86kmjkD/kcWQry92oKIsKYy9E0z73FFs4 kHF+fyE/Z3R/DMOw7UEOjcmieW7k0n7cZ22K12Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyZtFJEXLIOYW2YKV8gRcdzTUHPAbFoXFIxAUzyeItCDwfKrjAPFOgxhJttNAPvYoQtpDvMmB7HuLu9QBYTyxY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3a64:: with SMTP id w91mr32945824qte.242.1574736342145; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 18:45:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> In-Reply-To: From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 03:45:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 To: Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004a4cb8059836e075" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000004a4cb8059836e075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:56 AM Drew Adams wrote: > 24.5 works fine for me with -nw. Do you mean that if you create a desktop shortcut to 24.5's runemacs.exe that runs it with -Q -nw, and click on it, you get Emacs running in a console? Because I get an Emacs running with a hidden console (no visible frame). > That's what I've used for -nw in the past. > But I just tried plain `emacs' for -nw, and > that works too. (I use plain `emacs' for GUI.) I'm confused now. What do you mean with "That's what I've used for -nw in the past"? From a shortcut, or from CMD? > Does Emacs 26 on Windows 10 work for you > with -nw? 26.3 works as expected: 1) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a console Emacs inside CMD 2) "emacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a windows Emacs, but it's attached to the original CMD. 3) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a detached console Emacs (i.e., I see nothing because there's no window) 4) "runemacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a detached windows Emacs (CMD is available to use). 5) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: stars a console Emacs. 6) "emacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: Stars a windows Emacs, but there's a visible console. 7) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: starts a console Emacs, but the console is hidden, so nothing is visible. 8) "runemacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: starts a windows Emacs. Basically, runemacs.exe exists *specifically* to help with 2) and 6), because windows Emacs *always* creates a console, but when you're running a windows Emacs, you don't want to see it (it's just a nuisance). But if you're trying to run a console Emacs, "emacs.exe -Q -nw" is what you want, either in a shortcut or from the command line. So, what you see is not a bug, and I think it's always been so. I just tried with 20.7.3 and I get the very same behavior. --0000000000004a4cb8059836e075 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:56 AM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
<= br>
> 24.5 works fine for me with -nw.

Do you mean= that if you create a desktop shortcut to 24.5's runemacs.exe that runs= it with -Q -nw, and click on it, you get Emacs running in a console?
=

Because I get an Emacs running with a hidden console (n= o visible frame).

> That's what I've us= ed for -nw in the past.
> But I just tried plain `emacs' f= or -nw, and
> that works too. =C2=A0(I use plain `emacs= 9; for GUI.)

I'm confused now.=C2=A0

What do you mean with "That's what I've used for -nw = in the past"? From a shortcut, or from CMD?

&= gt; Does Emacs 26 on Windows 10 work for you
> with -nw?

26.3 = works as expected:

1) "emacs.exe -Q -nw"= from CMD: starts a console Emacs inside CMD
2) "emacs.exe -= Q" from CMD: starts a windows Emacs, but it's attached to the orig= inal CMD.
3) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts= a detached console Emacs (i.e., I see nothing because there's no windo= w)
4) "runemacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a detached win= dows Emacs (CMD is available to use).

5) "ema= cs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: stars a console Emacs.
6) &q= uot;emacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: Stars a windows Emacs, but there= 9;s a visible console.
7) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from a = shortcut: starts a console Emacs, but the console is hidden, so nothing is = visible.
8) "runemacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: starts a= windows Emacs.

Basically, runemacs.exe exists *sp= ecifically* to help with 2) and 6), because windows Emacs *always* creates = a console, but when you're running a windows Emacs, you don't want = to see it (it's just a nuisance).

But if you&#= 39;re trying to run a console Emacs, "emacs.exe -Q -nw" is what y= ou want, either in a shortcut or from the command line.

So, what you see is not a bug, and I think it's always been so. I= just tried with 20.7.3 and I get the very same behavior.


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That's what I meant. But I had it backward (`emacs' vs `runemacs'). Sorry for the noise - I'll close the bug. The Target on the Shortcut tab is this: y:\Emacs-24.5\bin\emacs.exe -nw ^^^^^ That works fine for me in all Emacs versions, including 24.5 and 26.x. I don't actually use -nw, except rarely, for testing something. For 26.x I tried to do=20 what I've done before for -nw, but I got it backward. > What do you mean with "That's what I've used for -nw in the past"? From a= shortcut, or from CMD? I always use shortcuts, not CMD. What I meant and wrote was backward from what I actually do (which works, including in Emacs 26). I use `runemacs', not `emacs', for GUI, and I use `emacs', not `runemacs', for -nw. What I said was mistakenly the opposite of that. Thanks. 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Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:33:01 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 To: Juanma Barranquero , Drew Adams References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: <65d4bba9-d9f6-08ee-3aa4-df7e99b8697d@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:33:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-AT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3RdtpapDcE71bK/j+UCQQHP/x0acpgSjbVz28ZBAAMEJ0pmN8Cf wsBtTXb6DFqKFyQ0c8EQXUag4F4yzs5My0fxq2kEOGqvJX40iFmAqomevEmx8pTCYsUGVGB DHCDcg9usHc4/4MKvEVpuuHGnFMiANvRpzLvM2LUKpnDuL9bF9UEuCr5lVc1uUNu3HV5JLS cTrDYWnoMCmrgzngFNXyQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:STPElWDOj14=:zmjEKQVJPHrJEI+2RcTxJo DpARgGWYtxnsiC2g9Nw24wdlJgEMBv/0j8puyBJqIi6kkCWQtvmW+7sQFuUdOjtiBSqrLkTmi zMemPLzP4hrq8KsqlFPZQ7deuNRFr0RF0utkk+06qLo0dDFwizzt4nblzG9bXXpcGPfjZbkSX J46tNygpCPaZ8AC5WAwqKsqV4c4leJjoLl/IJikiKJ/nY48wxfWEv53hNpwYJCE5B2O48TY/t Pl+qoziiDx4Y67892JPMV2UTX/Vddv/rIyVdUxXxhr8l3lsxXoXPVC2kca7snKhQkOKfdjAox FDv+y0yWUhtmYCY3Z+0uiu6EHOjhrZ4V5nd9YTsyf4Xi16khP9jFcCTA9p0jCAmhQ38RgNTgf dNvdB4SXGfEtFQKaSLzjmfAch+TOVSM8eJwGndrBeopvoWhkU+ght1v0MymKARvLz103XVWG4 wYc3ltKLniztdoEkzltTL4N9R8bAPlC+jcnXfrUOfPpuTMJhzxFf3BF45kAMr4eXYiAiQTWpx hP8vIubbTDzKr+rXpodqPDQOZWo2qqG/4AsCCLr25fvnVhN1djSbVeCpssmjLhrpNscY3FdzL USjYBTXcpySVa7k0N9VWRcUVcvphKN3pLC8BZFZBalDQiOfyqYNXc+F72N97HksMJQpDgseSl 7/qAlWgXYXXlFYXEfYlRAJYLUQVdbyu0GNJUUrKArCo9jF9Jgt5YvJtJBBVhCBZfokxzx9+BX 4efSxGARh/jXV7P6hERUWWrrQ81AUc1+AkSXphbybBSRURchWy8GJODYwdTj4Os5jvv2HsKWQ prhv6mIPlR/edXM4tG0ULWr8sRv8FcASFiiuHMY+bb0JzvzgvN/6swZMPp0VcYJyPBKmGm5ce wopJWJZtqi5NilGSFS5dY9rurAKKgo0+AcH8/Y6VGCdfaTwEPVOLO0oyR31GpepYsH12dIBdm YhOhvuU7Pjwt6q8d/dp2472L+kUE41aT+hzvboahsEU495T4R31CZo0PmlR1cQCC60/4n150P 1ogPO36KB0KXp+DqTh9EqKbaRk9BTgL7mgElHpJaqjGEhtt5orOJ+sokLjz6AjYnZ5rgOv0zh Yi5fBGkGhZ698RhtwkkT8frrIjYrkdRSXV15Cpl8+K6wixtybCSVgFtZ8B23ZJPukA22UeSt1 zVmPF2jNVtsxgyWJk0739BDM6EsqiBQ4BZ5R3jpBRD/y3zGkZAOicLnWkQQh7asYrYV/mfOAc luFFeggnuCEU69UlyVXi48qAfs2Iv+y7mGsaO3sCrsClogRt2o04IBCciSnM= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > 1) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a console Emacs inside CMD > 2) "emacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a windows Emacs, but it's attached to > the original CMD. > 3) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a detached console Emacs (i.e., I > see nothing because there's no window) > 4) "runemacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a detached windows Emacs (CMD is > available to use). > > 5) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: stars a console Emacs. > 6) "emacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: Stars a windows Emacs, but there's a > visible console. > 7) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: starts a console Emacs, but the > console is hidden, so nothing is visible. > 8) "runemacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: starts a windows Emacs. This is a nice summary. Couldn't we add it somewhere to nt/README? Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 26 08:13:38 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2019 13:13:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZaew-0005Vb-Iz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:13:38 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f176.google.com ([209.85.160.176]:41278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZaev-0005VN-Ti for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:13:38 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 59so15801695qtg.8 for <38367@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:13:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=X0+bvmFZLnZrX9bX/e6WRCKDIrWUY4qRJ/wLuTZ8eic=; b=MH+g9QdIC/6aXvKO8i+tS8oAleFJkIrJAsJGEQ2grn6GC7ZgTm7iJM8rdpna40KEyX 11lYo3iVRVPD8RTVfDBbZHV3FqpD/1rCcrJv3+meUW6Ey9bIoX1bCDSTnu5vqG5V2Rrg NUQosATU7K3frKIVWPyCClDAgIXuWA6yzT8oUlkfOvVgViTPHPfbiHaMbgQ9KT6H6a0O +JN921fJjVQUkqpZlfg2Ls/LIOhmAg4EGpAs7HEpnz29AmFqmNIL7KJE2JpkgTnMiA/9 cnXshD5GR+qb6zba44eMi0GTb8HACvBIZWL8gbf0BP3eEgltq5no8NtP04RJuYRz0NeF tFCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X0+bvmFZLnZrX9bX/e6WRCKDIrWUY4qRJ/wLuTZ8eic=; b=T4NnPqt/+odY46ydNQ43NXhlNenm783ummANTLhsqzrO5Z7tzvg262OYSDIs4DC4lC 3gXxJWUZXQtEpUep2jzf5o2kWPYNixtDOVbuUswzGf1FrotiXvGq7HaaSOdGa8Z2Wsd3 BIKv1d9BnWxfQxQlCkopqskpTLzdqc9rdAtopVKG+H7eHeSpnAs/a/CjlLfys26WGc9P i/5ZqA9UhkBCGlIzRrej/xIPHpuPvD4NMXD0RnxvFty4MrLFIeRtgdDNq39baMDan7pE MwY/zZEWwLxS9uEgmbO3jUPgAztNSw2z98bC+Frv/atR3v6MxUidf/aI8BZyGf0lQwDT 0vAA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXhb9isHoIwBd4Bwj3YRd3q4YPoGS/zhwvuaSZRiRAzeIquWj3R IeBZ/odnByfVDaxERoMSlZFw7BEkhtaZfuLrMPA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyqWzQ5N3hXywjW6I5+C1e3niTBtvIds6O14moy59Ce4NHS3PQCmFOa3K/443VfnbsKOmilLRGiHNzQAsA+a/s= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:6c5c:: with SMTP id z28mr23662369qtu.17.1574774010084; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:13:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> <65d4bba9-d9f6-08ee-3aa4-df7e99b8697d@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <65d4bba9-d9f6-08ee-3aa4-df7e99b8697d@gmx.at> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:12:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 To: martin rudalics Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000079015e05983fa5bd" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000079015e05983fa5bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM martin rudalics wrote: > This is a nice summary. Couldn't we add it somewhere to nt/README? I think it would add confusion. If anything, perhaps nt/README should be a bit more specific about what to do if the user wants to run a console emacs. Currently it just says: + emacs.exe - The main Emacs executable. As this is designed to run as both a text-mode application (emacs -nw) and as a GUI application, it will pop up a command prompt window if run directly from Explorer. + runemacs.exe - A wrapper for running Emacs as a GUI application without popping up a command prompt window. If you create a desktop shortcut for invoking Emacs, make it point to this executable, not to emacs.exe. --00000000000079015e05983fa5bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1= 0:33 AM martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx= .at> wrote:

> This is= a nice summary.=C2=A0 Couldn't we add it somewhere to nt/README?
I think it would add confusion= . If anything, perhaps nt/README should be a
bit more specific about what to do if the user wants to run a c= onsole emacs.
Currently it just= =C2=A0says:

=C2=A0 + emacs.exe - The main Emacs executable.= =C2=A0 As this is designed to run
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as both a text-mode appl= ication (emacs -nw) and as a GUI application,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 it will pop = up a command prompt window if run directly from Explorer.

=C2=A0 + r= unemacs.exe - A wrapper for running Emacs as a GUI application
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 without popping up a command prompt window.=C2=A0 If you create a=C2=A0 =C2=A0 desktop shortcut for invoking Emacs, make it point to this=C2=A0 =C2=A0 executable, not to emacs.exe.


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--00000000000014aeb505984073b5-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 21:42:18 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 02:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmWY-00065a-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:42:18 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:58277) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmWV-00065E-Tw for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:42:16 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8C932400FC for <38367@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 19:22:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1575742959; bh=9fQHsMTscXwc86w3rT8xuVRI2cqP81dbCcI8L9RnDO4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=VqRnKsyeg6Oed0368acGT+mDl/Im44fg1h9ugYwnD1CkRgx8Mp0a4iZbBgdmuJq3l bKBI2He3jUlvxA23wQqxxtxMHtKzTOjoQYYgqeAT4wKhBfOI8mTeRqmumDyAO49r52 OmEERxSyC+6XlP9brgWxIxBtaYvVYIK7ou8Zz5UXN2FFuGuM76kJ/gaxspGdnqahFA 88dLPNtYJrZedyDb4LqagHf6JHRUJoj0Yi1tjPhZCh/rTp5+29a8urLnrixDaqkGeI hdYRmssj6vodWBDw7rl1Ndmpz8ldVgbb7UuVA2o3OA5CC41SuuNHRaQlrtQIYqCBc6 w+YIT4QRcDcSg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 47Vd9C06vWz9rxH; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 19:22:38 +0100 (CET) From: Tomas Nordin To: Juanma Barranquero , martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 In-Reply-To: References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> <65d4bba9-d9f6-08ee-3aa4-df7e99b8697d@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:22:38 +0100 Message-ID: <8736dwvvv5.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM martin rudalics wrote: > >> This is a nice summary. Couldn't we add it somewhere to nt/README? > > I think it would add confusion. If anything, perhaps nt/README should be a > bit more specific about what to do if the user wants to run a console emacs. > Currently it just says: > > + emacs.exe - The main Emacs executable. As this is designed to run > as both a text-mode application (emacs -nw) and as a GUI application, > it will pop up a command prompt window if run directly from Explorer. > > + runemacs.exe - A wrapper for running Emacs as a GUI application > without popping up a command prompt window. If you create a > desktop shortcut for invoking Emacs, make it point to this > executable, not to emacs.exe. Which is to the point and just fine, isn't it? Possibly consider changing "text-mode" to "command prompt" since that wording is used later in the sentence (in the first bullet). diff --git a/nt/README b/nt/README index de68162131..aa5be96f56 100644 --- a/nt/README +++ b/nt/README @@ -26,8 +26,9 @@ files in the bin directory. + emacs.exe - The main Emacs executable. As this is designed to run - as both a text-mode application (emacs -nw) and as a GUI application, - it will pop up a command prompt window if run directly from Explorer. + as both a command prompt application (emacs -nw) and as a GUI + application, it will pop up a command prompt window as well, if run + directly from Explorer. + runemacs.exe - A wrapper for running Emacs as a GUI application without popping up a command prompt window. If you create a Best regards -- Tomas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 22:35:56 2019 Received: (at 38367) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 03:35:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idnMR-000542-Qf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:35:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idnMQ-00053q-2N for 38367@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:35:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idnM6-0002J3-Re; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:35:35 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2074 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idnM6-000867-1S; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:35:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 05:35:15 +0200 Message-Id: <83h82bebgs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tomas Nordin In-reply-to: <8736dwvvv5.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Tomas Nordin on Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:22:38 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38367: 26.3; Cannot start Emacs with -nw option, starting with Emacs 26.1 References: <55beb437-0b0f-4fb7-8ae5-1a6d6b15d4eb@default> <65d4bba9-d9f6-08ee-3aa4-df7e99b8697d@gmx.at> <8736dwvvv5.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38367 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 38367@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Tomas Nordin > Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:22:38 +0100 > Cc: 38367@debbugs.gnu.org > > > + emacs.exe - The main Emacs executable. As this is designed to run > > as both a text-mode application (emacs -nw) and as a GUI application, > > it will pop up a command prompt window if run directly from Explorer. > > > > + runemacs.exe - A wrapper for running Emacs as a GUI application > > without popping up a command prompt window. If you create a > > desktop shortcut for invoking Emacs, make it point to this > > executable, not to emacs.exe. > > Which is to the point and just fine, isn't it? Possibly consider > changing "text-mode" to "command prompt" That loses information, since the -nw switch does make the session text-mode, unlike other invocations from the command prompt. From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:17:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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