From unknown Sat Sep 06 09:43:52 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#38264 <38264@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#38264 <38264@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t Reply-To: bug#38264 <38264@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 16:43:52 +0000 retitle 38264 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is= t reassign 38264 emacs submitter 38264 Ihor Radchenko severity 38264 normal tag 38264 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 18 21:53:47 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2019 02:53:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWteD-0003y5-9p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:53:47 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWte8-0003xv-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:53:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWte1-0007SR-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:53:40 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWtdv-0006Af-7y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:53:33 -0500 Received: from mail-yw1-xc2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2b]:42517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWtdu-0006AE-Rc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:53:27 -0500 Received: by mail-yw1-xc2b.google.com with SMTP id z67so6758870ywb.9 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:53:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=5FKAtP193ADKW0ZCjY5KayoAafm2AvuhbEMKTq7G6bI=; b=ogexJXcGkqowGrS93NKewRJz62bwg47Atk7hieqE5JbiKv+JFKNn/uT8MnYYpwksUy G2EHdpZn5dEZosn2tQ/X/2CIQX+U3X98c13JJMZFbcB6LnyU0CBTUCFXVCaYd9rvEbP0 rtgXYRcVXSHWsgXGpWtgS7e3IE2/jjbtj1cy5gMGK3usp+0htfuz0ysl6s4njhdeFOv/ 67ll4My1IW3IvW7Eiz2RFKYo+JCEmqfOGjhmmijx79vwU/uBNM6XZLN+IW1Ek4VZY6hN Sp0Itt/CdmZlBWBEWDTM95ug6IlG8VvXEaFadDe3yp+xqgXkViBpTXgF4P9XpYNG7duJ k3WA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=5FKAtP193ADKW0ZCjY5KayoAafm2AvuhbEMKTq7G6bI=; b=M4BrCq81cbpWaskrMcKtVnJItIqV32GgZhkai2rJCgKh7uSMqirAat+zurP4ciqVeD K87mMknz/rGvgQnZKkxTJ4NjxmRVby+82A8Ie+4CD8cj4Nw2FCwsHcs/DrzBTsTvlTUu bQR0W18CXqG6vR5Cby1/qJ7vrnxYtKkOhmu/57Kz5mQiBFwhe7WKgSEhr/gkGjwJfgNW L7DueOfcWnsnkEs8xqrTvHi1JvFiQoUD3y4gbZZwWIIvJmuRrkaqgp2J1SIy1a3b5Dce +ceZS7hytXYqlOVnggJkMYVii0vv/8mPCRpQVm1q+6po8XUOXvbffjtJUtMVhTDaPzcP UwCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWs59mYOO12/TXuAJ8lK4UujuW43HpbAWrmW1o2xL+i9+N8cLag SAsJX1Jm8v/nFblRyQUTls9grCXe3XE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzEDGuWu66UQxTFLSKtLpgte8svtAAVG2z+gjCjQGwLtE+EPVQmnF4NolYF6X6ioDDWgvfErQ== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:e1d6:: with SMTP id k205mr22092847ywe.196.1574132003778; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([5.226.137.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z127sm9587931ywb.38.2019.11.18.18.53.19 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:53:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ihor Radchenko To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:51:39 +0800 Message-ID: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2b X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) When I try to run the following code, graphical emacs window terminates losing all the unsaved data. (setq debug-on-error t) (let ((noninteractive t)) (/ 1 0)) The problem is reproducible with emacs -Q. Running the code without debug-on-error set to t does not trigger termination. Best, Ihor In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2019-11-18 built on yantar92-laptop Repository revision: ccb8bbd581adac2cc1c770c266b5fd52da5c9402 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12005000 System Description: Gentoo/Linux Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-silent-rules --docdir=/usr/share/doc/emacs-vcs-27.0.9999 --htmldir=/usr/share/doc/emacs-vcs-27.0.9999/html --libdir=/usr/lib64 --program-suffix=-emacs-27-vcs --includedir=/usr/include/emacs-27-vcs --infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-27-vcs --localstatedir=/var --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --without-compress-install --without-hesiod --without-pop --with-file-notification=inotify --enable-acl --with-dbus 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+0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5xP-00085r-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:02:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5xG-00085S-7B; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:02:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5x7-0000eM-2Q; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:02:05 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4398 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iX5x4-0003uv-Ru; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:02:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:02:10 +0200 Message-Id: <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Ihor Radchenko In-reply-to: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:51:39 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 38264 notabug thanks > From: Ihor Radchenko > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:51:39 +0800 > > When I try to run the following code, graphical emacs window terminates > losing all the unsaved data. > > (setq debug-on-error t) > (let ((noninteractive t)) > (/ 1 0)) > > The problem is reproducible with emacs -Q. > Running the code without debug-on-error set to t does not trigger > termination. This is a feature: in non-interactive mode entering a debugger displays the backtrace and then kills Emacs. Why are you binding noninteractive to t while debug-on-error is enabled? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 19 11:59:08 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2019 16:59:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iX6qJ-00032A-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:59:07 -0500 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com ([209.85.219.170]:41698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iX6qG-00031e-NB for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:59:05 -0500 Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id d95so9067064ybi.8 for <38264@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:59:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=AsMprquEm8IUZyxlbF/086kU8+J03qbxBBiYFuaey+I=; b=MrHeD3Pg1UCevhV7da32HZb226ZhAp1Iz8o9iaS/72n7pOloEBBhmtRhRRim8sl1xJ D6hY/b28mBImF62JyaEPS+uYMYmJQrtRVkggz8+yK+VaO4/CqfR6AbWwAfezLiR5Uvu1 9jlwZ9ytSmdENGREtJ0Mi2gI0RZZlmBSYOWc7WlCRXd8Vn1e9QSzbN2Sf0aK1natrZh2 i+y4hEDNhmEjzArOXOlX4nGMVLT2rVFKbwRnezfbK+erTcDPOXIGbh9Xm1UjiJFgXk80 Nm3CuDwwjnHMhvIAB3FcSGNl+vMdd71ArNYYUiKsNj6BYn1YmFN+Frq/0B6adE/qQ72p BoJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=AsMprquEm8IUZyxlbF/086kU8+J03qbxBBiYFuaey+I=; b=fOSwcr3e0UCossTHtZqjFYxXPBIjy1bEQBKNvqVCJIOCo0e4HNic3pG8+gXXm4ds9Y sEJFKlPzTgriXBE/2IPMjpmHGYc9ZexDUuiVvISNjrl+O/rLUXt0GSUW9y4/1DhkUFLD a4E4q+QrKo1q+UoNqkUSOizA2dfKfBfxuO02kqa2mfufMp7CvbeO9pDxe2oRFxNYTB6m hG2zugBwMJhjSfDWRd66fzXcctOSh0MFm5yuGZNx+2B0i8rFJA/Dtw83OuCJelYlZgyx U0k7JgL61IKLk24a1OKk0aflPY8bFCY9YEZ9j1tGmwxQzlxnf2O/CUQzAa/+he4clcm3 uWRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX/M5yPcl61kpx50v5Gi/EKzeygw12b6OAsAuxse0wBJmbSO6ut OyGpBtJpqrwFD+6OZwSOotL9vvW0vNQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwz7WHLpxIU54pnf+XBiFu/IYJJpKtOKnJ4w84rtJxX04uV01nPA04TwRK33U9KnftXbYC35w== X-Received: by 2002:a25:774b:: with SMTP id s72mr28190263ybc.287.1574182738953; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([5.226.137.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m20sm9658187ywd.104.2019.11.19.08.58.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:58:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t In-Reply-To: <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:57:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > This is a feature: in non-interactive mode entering a debugger > displays the backtrace and then kills Emacs. It indeed makes sense. However, it does not make sense when noninteractive is manually set to 't in normal interactive mode. It may be difficult to see this backtrace if emacs was started graphically. Note that package.el, for example, can set noninteractive to 't at some point (see package-generate-autoloads), even if emacs is otherwise interactive. > Why are you binding noninteractive to t while debug-on-error is > enabled? Similar to package.el, straight.el also binds noninteractive to 't when generating autoloads. As a result, emacs sometimes terminates when building packages (https://github.com/raxod502/straight.el/issues/431). Regards, Ihor Eli Zaretskii writes: > tags 38264 notabug > thanks > >> From: Ihor Radchenko >> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:51:39 +0800 >> >> When I try to run the following code, graphical emacs window terminates >> losing all the unsaved data. >> >> (setq debug-on-error t) >> (let ((noninteractive t)) >> (/ 1 0)) >> >> The problem is reproducible with emacs -Q. >> Running the code without debug-on-error set to t does not trigger >> termination. > > This is a feature: in non-interactive mode entering a debugger > displays the backtrace and then kills Emacs. > > Why are you binding noninteractive to t while debug-on-error is > enabled? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 20 10:59:29 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2019 15:59:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXSO8-0002L2-QM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:59:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXSO7-0002Kn-3B for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:59:27 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXSO1-00050S-SL; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:59:21 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4814 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXSO0-0005Tq-Ov; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:59:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:59:28 +0200 Message-Id: <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Ihor Radchenko , Artur Malabarba In-reply-to: <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:57:18 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:57:18 +0800 > > > This is a feature: in non-interactive mode entering a debugger > > displays the backtrace and then kills Emacs. > > It indeed makes sense. However, it does not make sense when > noninteractive is manually set to 't in normal interactive mode. How can Emacs distinguish between these two situations? The value of 'noninteractive' is how it knows whether the session is an interactive one, and your code steps on it. > Note that package.el, for example, can set noninteractive to 't at some > point (see package-generate-autoloads), even if emacs is otherwise > interactive. > > > Why are you binding noninteractive to t while debug-on-error is > > enabled? > > Similar to package.el, straight.el also binds noninteractive to 't when > generating autoloads. What package.el does makes little sense to me, see below. Does straight.el have a reason to do the same, you did you just copy the code from package.el? If the code in straight.el is simply a copy from package.el, then just remove the line which binds 'noninteractive'. You don't need it because all it does is disable calls to 'message' inside 'autoload-generate-file-autoloads', and you already bind 'inhibit-message' to t, so no messages will be displayed anyway. Artur, I think for the same reason we have no need to bind 'noninteractive' in 'package-generate-autoloads', or am I missing something? Btw, the other places in package.el which use 'inhibit-message' to bind 'save-silently' to a non-nil value seem also redundant, since if 'inhibit-message' is non-nil, its effect is a superset of what 'save-silently' does anyway. WDYT? 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The value of > 'noninteractive' is how it knows whether the session is an interactive > one, and your code steps on it. I agree that it indeed conforms with the manual (though it might make sense to add a note to the manual that setting noninteractive manually can cause issues). I am also wondering why there is no error shown in the terminal when emacs is terminated after executing the code I provided. I tried to run emacs in batch mode directly like $ emacs -Q --batch --eval '(/ 1 0)' Arithmetic error As expected, emacs prints "Arithmetic error" in the output. However, if I just run emacs -Q and execute the same with noninteractive bound to t, no output is produced in the terminal, which is very misleading since no clue is provided why emacs was terminated. Also, it seems that kill-emacs-hook is not called when emacs is terminated in the above situation. Does not sound right for me. > What package.el does makes little sense to me, see below. Does > straight.el have a reason to do the same, you did you just copy the > code from package.el? I suspect that it was just copying. Will forward your question to the straight.el author. Regards, Ihor Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Ihor Radchenko >> Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:57:18 +0800 >> >> > This is a feature: in non-interactive mode entering a debugger >> > displays the backtrace and then kills Emacs. >> >> It indeed makes sense. However, it does not make sense when >> noninteractive is manually set to 't in normal interactive mode. > > How can Emacs distinguish between these two situations? The value of > 'noninteractive' is how it knows whether the session is an interactive > one, and your code steps on it. > >> Note that package.el, for example, can set noninteractive to 't at some >> point (see package-generate-autoloads), even if emacs is otherwise >> interactive. >> >> > Why are you binding noninteractive to t while debug-on-error is >> > enabled? >> >> Similar to package.el, straight.el also binds noninteractive to 't when >> generating autoloads. > > What package.el does makes little sense to me, see below. Does > straight.el have a reason to do the same, you did you just copy the > code from package.el? > > If the code in straight.el is simply a copy from package.el, then just > remove the line which binds 'noninteractive'. You don't need it > because all it does is disable calls to 'message' inside > 'autoload-generate-file-autoloads', and you already bind > 'inhibit-message' to t, so no messages will be displayed anyway. > > Artur, I think for the same reason we have no need to bind > 'noninteractive' in 'package-generate-autoloads', or am I missing > something? > > Btw, the other places in package.el which use 'inhibit-message' to > bind 'save-silently' to a non-nil value seem also redundant, since if > 'inhibit-message' is non-nil, its effect is a superset of what > 'save-silently' does anyway. WDYT? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 20 12:37:58 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2019 17:37:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50842 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXTvR-0004kx-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:37:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXTvQ-0004kk-TI for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:37:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXTvL-0004tf-Nn; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:37:51 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3000 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXTvK-0007gp-QE; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:37:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 19:37:58 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Ihor Radchenko In-reply-to: <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:35:50 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:35:50 +0800 > > I am also wondering why there is no error shown in the terminal when > emacs is terminated after executing the code I provided. Probably because your stderr is redirected to some great void in a GUI session. > I tried to run emacs in batch mode directly like > > $ emacs -Q --batch --eval '(/ 1 0)' > Arithmetic error Yes, that goes to stderr, which is in batch mode connected to the console. > I suspect that it was just copying. Will forward your question to the > straight.el author. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 20 18:22:34 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2019 23:22:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXZIw-0006uR-12 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 18:22:34 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com ([209.85.160.182]:39220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXZIt-0006uD-Nb for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 18:22:32 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id t8so1525602qtc.6 for <38264@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:22:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=vKHq5v0VwbtvUA+tpkMs+hS503aol0ltY1ArMwW8+ao=; b=EOrbvqWurCAIwPWQLWBmWl0JuX9BQPFXgvjqJhrL9pBJICyL4KnlUGg8YkInvGRtGi WPh2enjPyeZVVQmxFD/4WmncP23AZsdtrTaZuEF9HoYtqBKDO3QPgaIcbtqFcYIV+PC1 ZOhKbQR6bfa9dOvkb9qoz4vTWqCT75Dh0b7bZWg2UzsT1ojyfQVHOj8YY/DsynA2V06K 7OTVTgsgwh4ATzcpwKXnFO58ZTG0e9fv7VQjqRyLyK+RGWRMvBw/HzUGz3x87UQe5Tf9 oIFToTXG6cmJez7B5EUl3UToCZAON2C/awDf7l0boj3gcw3BFnxlOwiah8k+6jQ9kNPV +wpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vKHq5v0VwbtvUA+tpkMs+hS503aol0ltY1ArMwW8+ao=; b=NwGWS75tJMB3hhEDxAd8CqDwq5lHiROKYlwOARGTt5bxrGb6VdEHNA2YMfLBJKwHyD 1EJHoiXNcmfK2T6hDKNGl67XjtxnS+km00Vh9ma7EvrweAVY/FTUEKbZG1axGmaSUH7G 5KKqKceTTKjGSqqm8x4m5SJ24bqtAC2+ZKyf5z+kSaSVHdIjZenZtXJNX1bn1TTOvTH1 r2BMqfKkwoi2YwJxItIARtAAxQsU+9SWKgGhjeiYDFPzwHRN9RGwPzFNe0QSqbnIu8Qi 30t4o+hDbbWk5lxwTwAZLa71dgIeilOz/X60YO2ccff1sGtffW2yBDqubS+qtrAV8KvS WPxA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWMZ/ShS28Z9MwU/gbKYfYM45SmaY5UY5uPjzNLiD2rvYzIVwYk 0SCKhfS4NFhbF1xPyifyReV1NH0TOf5Z1fv9pWg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwZAp522xUZCZV79QdIxGmEPx7chkHOjhbX/GbxV6u887bIlss+nSg0BGLrcqsnoJLGvDN9JCfu/Hj0+oIZf9Y= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2706:: with SMTP id n6mr5474810qtd.224.1574292146050; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:22:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Artur Malabarba Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:22:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000235a250597cf74a0" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000235a250597cf74a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think I may have been mistakenly included here. :-) I'm not the author of straight.el and I don't see the author in this thread. Artur On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 2:37 pm Eli Zaretskii, wrote: > > From: Ihor Radchenko > > Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:35:50 +0800 > > > > I am also wondering why there is no error shown in the terminal when > > emacs is terminated after executing the code I provided. > > Probably because your stderr is redirected to some great void in a GUI > session. > > > I tried to run emacs in batch mode directly like > > > > $ emacs -Q --batch --eval '(/ 1 0)' > > Arithmetic error > > Yes, that goes to stderr, which is in batch mode connected to the > console. > > > I suspect that it was just copying. Will forward your question to the > > straight.el author. > > Thanks. > --000000000000235a250597cf74a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I may have been mistakenly included here. :-)=C2=A0I'm not the author of straight.el and I don't s= ee the author in this thread.=C2=A0

Artur

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 2:37 pm Eli Zar= etskii, <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
=
> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar9= 2@gmail.com>
> Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:35:50 +0800
>
> I am also wondering why there is no error shown in the terminal when > emacs is terminated after executing the code I provided.

Probably because your stderr is redirected to some great void in a GUI
session.

> I tried to run emacs in batch mode directly like
>
> $ emacs -Q --batch --eval '(/ 1 0)'
> Arithmetic error

Yes, that goes to stderr, which is in batch mode connected to the
console.

> I suspect that it was just copying. Will forward your question to the<= br> > straight.el author.

Thanks.
--000000000000235a250597cf74a0-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 20 22:37:48 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2019 03:37:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXdHw-0004mp-I6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:37:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXdHv-0004ma-8F for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:37:47 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXdHq-0003GU-30; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:37:42 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3936 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXdHp-0000Nv-Jn; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:37:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 05:37:52 +0200 Message-Id: <837e3tzypb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Artur Malabarba on Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:22:12 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Artur Malabarba > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:22:12 -0300 > Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > > I think I may have been mistakenly included here. :-) > I'm not the author of straight.el and I don't see the author in this thread. You made the change in package.el that uses inhibit-message's value to bind noninteractive, and also made other similar changes in package.el. That's why I CC'ed you. But if you don't remember making that change, or its reasons, that's fine' I can take it from here. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 21 06:16:02 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2019 11:16:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXkRO-0003UK-8M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 06:16:02 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f176.google.com ([209.85.160.176]:46804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXkRL-0003Tj-3Y for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 06:16:00 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f176.google.com with SMTP id r20so3172693qtp.13 for <38264@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 03:15:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=BEqTA81ytXa1tMn2lLxw0C0PMQMne8Du4vUT3FhyZzE=; b=eRi/pJDXyxlwdLmsUQK8dHF8cryd38cXxhLyl2F/A490aJfbrRJ26l7JBCvSWnikkH b8OFijgngoyOUxcY6Z3gAyeK8gU4P6yBwuWX++TnGZEMHUCvwvtuVVuHImWQFMvcOJVk eTXVRVFomXcKjft6VvdHp/gsUg9dXOlWzVldXfTLnkTljCXurTG1k4WX0KmAAnKenBF7 yOppJN2KD6mzZD2uytvqjXUn9DmUCwy3oGQSRGV61pXJKskhDWkreL7SU5Da3j5pdu7m yO8JUtN3lq5blXEZ/8aOmqh1VXw1pR6V3DsKrdAKrD3qEh+mubdqIAafHMFLRQW2HADk bsaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BEqTA81ytXa1tMn2lLxw0C0PMQMne8Du4vUT3FhyZzE=; b=U/YmlG32BL1mV61pofIQsUTfQDC698RrT9k+oQiOIlLzrQKtbIoE4GuP1o859wHoMi wBBtG9bRhn7asgTWqzPad2nhs81VkY4Jev7ZQOgiP8x4QHGjJThKATDDMfWtZiaIymT+ wFjrKMmnibOFE6B9LyAKEx/Qlb428Md+JHyFCfGoL7q7S7F0CkWxov7k4KZVFgZz6R2J phzE4xBCbeoOP9X9AlLRuSmeCMo8rkXYiF7ECGkq6pVOR35aofcIsdec/RcBloVGIkS9 aZGeiAu/b8iq6HCCs1GmxtmpQ2G2a1/qd4whNQg7xCC5Z0380sE3ORCD/YONli1TbNJ+ a5Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWIUx9ES0PQPJWT4DWksaTKQIlwFVHNJuJWFg83JlrYPpwG2OxY im+4kkMH+FcU3TNANrCmLU0aYL2mF/7RLkJVTFA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzWu6bS+XZRzoXrWWZUijhzAWtyj5L7LaK4NMXZrtOFPKfJ0w8ZTXmYregz1BiEHI86zGrFmvaVdkewTfW6xRY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:92a:: with SMTP id t39mr7975363qth.170.1574334953521; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 03:15:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> <837e3tzypb.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <837e3tzypb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Artur Malabarba Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:15:40 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a9878d0597d96b09" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000a9878d0597d96b09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ah sorry. I got confused cause somebody said they were contacting the author at the same time I was added. No, I don't remember the specific reasons why I change that. I may have had something to do with avoiding prompts or reducing the amount of message output produced by package.el (I remember working on that) but that's just guessing. Artur On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 12:37 am Eli Zaretskii, wrote: > > From: Artur Malabarba > > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:22:12 -0300 > > Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I think I may have been mistakenly included here. :-) > > I'm not the author of straight.el and I don't see the author in this > thread. > > You made the change in package.el that uses inhibit-message's value to > bind noninteractive, and also made other similar changes in > package.el. That's why I CC'ed you. > > But if you don't remember making that change, or its reasons, that's > fine' I can take it from here. > > Thanks. > --000000000000a9878d0597d96b09 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah sorry. I got confused cause somebody said they were co= ntacting the author at the same time I was added.=C2=A0
No, I don't remember the specific reasons why= I change that. I may have had something to do with avoiding prompts or red= ucing the amount of message output produced by package.el (I remember worki= ng on that) but that's just guessing.=C2=A0

Artur

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 12= :37 am Eli Zaretskii, <eliz@gnu.org&= gt; wrote:
> From: Artur Malabar= ba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:22:12 -0300
> Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>, 38264@debbugs.gn= u.org
>
> I think I may have been mistakenly included here. :-)
>=C2=A0 I'm not the author of straight.el and I don't see the au= thor in this thread.

You made the change in package.el that uses inhibit-message's value to<= br> bind noninteractive, and also made other similar changes in
package.el.=C2=A0 That's why I CC'ed you.

But if you don't remember making that change, or its reasons, that'= s
fine' I can take it from here.

Thanks.
--000000000000a9878d0597d96b09-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 21 09:22:20 2019 Received: (at 38264) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2019 14:22:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXnLg-0000br-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:22:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iXnLc-0000ba-Bn for 38264@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:22:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXnLX-0003ND-85; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:22:11 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3296 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXnLW-0002NJ-NS; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:22:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:22:23 +0200 Message-Id: <831ru1z4v4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Artur Malabarba on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:15:40 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> <837e3tzypb.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264 Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Artur Malabarba > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:15:40 -0300 > Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > > No, I don't remember the specific reasons why I change that. I may have had something to do with avoiding > prompts or reducing the amount of message output produced by package.el (I remember working on that) but > that's just guessing. No worries, I will fix that shortly. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 22 09:38:45 2019 Received: (at 38264-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2019 14:38:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iYA56-0000nF-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:38:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55060) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iYA50-0000mr-7v for 38264-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:38:41 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iYA4v-000346-3K; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:38:33 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4983 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iYA4u-0001ow-C7; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:38:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 16:38:46 +0200 Message-Id: <831ru0vuvd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: yantar92@gmail.com In-reply-to: <831ru1z4v4.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:22:23 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#38264: 27.0.50; Emacs terminates unexpectedly when noninteractive is t References: <87mucsshms.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <835zjf3ldp.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnf4xe9.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <834kyy1qu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87wobuv72x.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83o8x6zbwp.fsf@gnu.org> <837e3tzypb.fsf@gnu.org> <831ru1z4v4.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38264-done Cc: 38264-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:22:23 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 38264@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com > > > From: Artur Malabarba > > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:15:40 -0300 > > Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 38264@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > No, I don't remember the specific reasons why I change that. I may have had something to do with avoiding > > prompts or reducing the amount of message output produced by package.el (I remember working on that) but > > that's just guessing. > > No worries, I will fix that shortly. Done. I'm therefore closing this bug, since the rest of it is in straight.el, which is not part of Emacs. From unknown Sat Sep 06 09:43:52 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator