From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 12 14:03:32 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2019 19:03:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUbRs-0007hP-DZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:03:32 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:32814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUbRr-0007hI-7B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:03:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUbRq-0007yf-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:03:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUbRo-0007DE-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:03:29 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:49124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUbRo-0007CY-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:03:28 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xACIo83x088817 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:22 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=TyziuuoCBCVIY8kbSCtObg5HfH2WF+0Oxg4qvAZmiks=; b=e9CKcrV+IivY9vRZJqp9H0vu8ic5OMiwhlNuSef2UeAUETmCXyX4Cf/wlACSwyQ2GlLw DyEXrdn4f1ORzoOQNha6vMy824kPvrNtzd8gKQ/cSMgVZLhkgSTKaUNU+Cjhuf7wqdbI NWcX812pOmroJhOo6cWTQs0/BwlwYMWqNQqGYVGKlGwGy1tStWvFxRtVFo/48O2KU+bS bESR3nO30QRdKn3LoZBHCtz9r7kH1pRdlZrByD/Q9L2Km+mxdNN8S9NJKz6LIvqMBtz8 jMaOFn1Ll4+G4qIPzTlNFXZ7vkGs1/XngL+DVXoCbryfSUCIIAKiAbOpxNtgQidwjIme lg== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w5ndq6ymk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:22 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xACImftm186481 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:22 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w7j02a1xn-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:22 +0000 Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xACJ3KsD005841 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:21 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4900.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9439 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=847 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1910280000 definitions=main-1911120160 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9439 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1031 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=916 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1910280000 definitions=main-1911120160 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.78 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I think the doc about equality of markers should be improved. In the Elisp manual: Nodes `Equality Predicates' and `Overview of Markers' point out _one_ difference between `eq' and `equal', for markers. But in both of these nodes the examples and explanations involve only markers for the same buffer. In node `Creating Markers' we finally find get the information that `equal' requires the markers to also be for the same buffer. But again, the examples there show only markers for the same buffer. There should be an example with `equal' for markers with same numerical value but for different buffers. Node `Comparison of Numbers' tells us how to compare markers only with respect to their numerical values, i.e., to ignore a buffer difference. This info should be brought together, so that wherever we speak of equality tests for markers we can learn that (1) `eq' requires the markers to be identical (the same marker object), (2) `equal' requires them to have the same numerical value and be for the same buffer, and (3) `=3D' requires them to just have the same numerical value. At the very least, all of that info should be available in one place, in the section about markers. And it should include simple examples (like now, but including `=3D' and the case of `equal' for two markers with the same numerical value but for different buffers). I think the info belongs in `Overview of Markers'. (But it could logically be in `Predicates on Markers'.) In particular, this is not something that's particular to `Creating Markers'. IMO you could remove the examples of this kind of thing from the description of `copy-marker'. But if duplication is OK then it's OK to repeat it there. The point is that that shouldn't be the only place to find this info. In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 08:19:01 2019 Received: (at 38183) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 13:19:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVbV6-0002eD-Pz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:19:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41090) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVbV4-0002e1-Pm for 38183@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:18:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVbUz-0006wX-38; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:18:53 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2469 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVbUy-0000kH-Hd; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:18:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:18:37 +0200 Message-Id: <83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default> (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:03:20 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#38183: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers References: <104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38183 Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:03:20 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > I think the doc about equality of markers should be improved. I don't understand what are the practical problems caused by the current text in the manual. It seems the information you were after is present, so it isn't clear what exactly is the problem here. It seems that the only problem you have is the place where the details of 'equal' for markers are described? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 12:28:58 2019 Received: (at 38183) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 17:28:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfP0-0002Ql-BB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:28:58 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:49830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfOy-0002QY-1n for 38183@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:28:56 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAFHNxat003382; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:28:49 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=7rLTdRincM4uCvgGnaa8Cpegxp+eN7OQVdDIJFoLlFA=; b=DJMibuQJNpuJNJl8MwxB5IHECUWkD9zj/LGx0Fv4Lgxv9WiuqO57x0e+KPGybsVtldFB XEbX2iQiRS2YnBY1fDyBijuvH0fJIhk6/QDL7f0+bh+9EDlBv11WSeAuvOY1OJ+jtZ28 /PN3QYz5BYo7idcnZaNWB5O9Hwh5YKPA3d0DEFwnM26gKQgQYX+c1bYB5AxwTWAlW7f7 52WGsLG/CLszCWuRh08bhM7WqenuvskseB1pYu7B/MH8wRjyVtBqq10sWHW/li73tVL/ L0C3cPP5GVtEX3QIk9Ky2ZcEZvQv+DW2dgG/NoAQMPCy6BSrQYFQbKHQXKdNeI92JeLS kA== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w9gxpmjch-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:28:49 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAFHJHuo142438; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:26:48 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w9h18c885-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:26:48 +0000 Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xAFHQkfY027427; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:26:48 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Subject: RE: bug#38183: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers References: <<104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default>> <<83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4927.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9442 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=634 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911150154 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9442 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=695 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911150155 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38183 Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > I think the doc about equality of markers should be improved. >=20 > I don't understand what are the practical problems caused by the > current text in the manual. It seems the information you were after > is present, so it isn't clear what exactly is the problem here. >=20 > It seems that the only problem you have is the place where the details > of 'equal' for markers are described? I think the bug report is pretty clear, detailed, and specific. But to provide a quick summary response: 1. Yes, "Creating Markers" is not the best place for specifying equality tests between markers. 2. There should be an example for `equal' that shows inequality when the positions are the same but the buffers differ. 3. In the section about markers, there should be a mention of how to compare markers with regard only to their positions, i.e., use `=3D'. This, from the bug report, says what I think is needed, as a minimum: At the very least, all of that info should be available in one place, in the section about markers. And it should include simple examples (like now, but including `=3D' and the case of `equal' for two markers with the same numerical value but for different buffers). Please consider putting all of the info in the section about markers, mentioning the different equality tests: `eq', `equal', and `=3D'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 12:35:53 2019 Received: (at 38183) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 17:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfVh-0002dO-5m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:35:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57809) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfVe-0002d4-G0 for 38183@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:35:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfVX-000194-QQ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:35:45 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2598 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVfVW-0006oq-Sh; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:35:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 19:35:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83tv7511r3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:26:45 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#38183: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers References: <<104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default>> <<83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org>> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38183 Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I think the doc about equality of markers should be improved. > > > > I don't understand what are the practical problems caused by the > > current text in the manual. It seems the information you were after > > is present, so it isn't clear what exactly is the problem here. > > > > It seems that the only problem you have is the place where the details > > of 'equal' for markers are described? > > I think the bug report is pretty clear, detailed, and > specific. But to provide a quick summary response: No need, I've read the original report. It sounds like you missed the "practical" part of my questions above. If you just disagree with where the information is now, then we can agree to disagree. > Please consider putting all of the info in the section > about markers, mentioning the different equality tests: > `eq', `equal', and `='. I don't think this is needed. The current text has all the info, and the place where we have that is fine with me. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 13:27:40 2019 Received: (at 38183) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 18:27:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVgJo-0003ps-E5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:27:40 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:54874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVgJm-0003pc-KT for 38183@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:27:39 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAFIOK9Y062553; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:27:32 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=oGxiGRDChLYmWhi4PkjKkO7EJEndoahvSYPV7zjiHCI=; b=adX3IMff0BPeao+JPwwrWXUJDHlVVBehBXgTjSZxcb4v+0gtY5eXqg+7Se38IMzTyYGJ WCGlv+Nc/yZQ3fntGitSfYb7joMing7C0QPUvDkQUoJ9LaX+ohA4+OxJ4TpKcDkkiEe3 EboGGVnAoqtNGI+mfyQ4oZcfnhgI70slNpF6Rzjf0b5W9odUXs95ERWMjmhRzjZXRI0E kJ2ZJ6evH9AT4CADkQf+98IVm1sasWSeuFxVHQGb8cBYDqWmWEv1BWaawAFQtTugRld/ uAi2MsJwJEp02obt0JqxFbT1OGK9pljNqhEIk1kCxaFLInFk9yRAlhArHoeg3ESNVkEi 7g== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w9gxpmw9t-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:27:32 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id xAFIOEQQ157328; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:27:31 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2w9h0nfgfk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:27:31 +0000 Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xAFIRSFq016295; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:27:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2e1f5720-317d-47e5-886d-bb06d4ee15af@default> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:27:27 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Subject: RE: bug#38183: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers References: <<<104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default>>> <<<83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83tv7511r3.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83tv7511r3.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4927.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9442 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=643 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911150163 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9442 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=714 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-1911150163 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38183 Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > The current text has all the info, and > the place where we have that is fine with me. It's your prerogative to do nothing. Just know that as one user it took me a while to find the information. I started in the Markers section of the manual, and I had difficulty finding that `equal' includes buffer comparison (`equal' example uses only the same buffer). Then, after finding that info, I had difficulty finding how to compare markers only numerically (nothing in the Markers section). I now have the info. Others - some anyway - will likely go through the same obstacle course. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 14:27:10 2019 Received: (at 38183-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 19:27:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVhFC-0005Hw-Jx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:26:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49859) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVhFA-0005Hk-P9 for 38183-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:26:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVhF5-0006fW-CO; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:26:51 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1376 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVhF3-0001mn-QX; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:26:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 21:26:35 +0200 Message-Id: <83sgmp0wlw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <2e1f5720-317d-47e5-886d-bb06d4ee15af@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:27:27 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#38183: 26.3; Doc about equality of markers References: <<<104e3572-fe9c-42b8-a099-769389ff1588@default>>> <<<83eey92s7m.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83tv7511r3.fsf@gnu.org>> <2e1f5720-317d-47e5-886d-bb06d4ee15af@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38183-done Cc: 38183-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:27:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 38183@debbugs.gnu.org > > Just know that as one user it took me a while > to find the information. > > I started in the Markers section of the manual, > and I had difficulty finding that `equal' > includes buffer comparison (`equal' example > uses only the same buffer). "Overview of Markers" starts by saying what components are entailed in a marker, so what 'equal' compares should be clear from that. > Then, after finding that info, I had difficulty > finding how to compare markers only numerically > (nothing in the Markers section). That's described under '='. It is impractical to have every piece of information described together in the same place as every other possibly related piece of information, as that will lead to endless repetitions. From unknown Fri Aug 15 21:26:50 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator