From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:27 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#38111 <38111@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#38111 <38111@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Reply-To: bug#38111 <38111@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:06:27 +0000 retitle 38111 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-crea= te reassign 38111 emacs submitter 38111 Juri Linkov severity 38111 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 07 17:58:22 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2019 22:58:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44087 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSqjN-0005fL-N4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSqjJ-0005f0-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:58:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51320) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSqjI-0006FY-1b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:58:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSqjF-0004bF-Os for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:58:15 -0500 Received: from chocolate.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.35]:42795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSqjD-0004UO-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:58:13 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A213E0878 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-45-192.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.45.192]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 78F4AE0D18 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:58:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a69.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:58:06 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Lettuce-Lonely: 4953a09548be8397_1573167486710_2647561983 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573167486710:725945840 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573167486709 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A28A997 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= linkov.net; bh=TBA1DN3hEiJ8HKX/ST8VApBQyEg=; b=3hfBqa9EhnMrQ02v0 +swIM8r+MAQUlVhb2wekvrdUfadYO2Rn77HokvCzytZo9UQDZkki9MQNmLpPYd1h VkmOHInXSgHYAmaqHdm96sDYRTYmBC9U12nCFBqGVyWbSqAotgvli0yx4T+bY2+M 93aLGC1x+QlvtdhfdLT7Eb7pHI= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F1588AA50 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a69 From: Juri Linkov To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Organization: LINKOV.NET Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 23:53:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 23.83.209.35 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) This looks like a bug. I found this issue while using global-tab-line-mode, but to confirm that it's unrelated to tab-line, this bug report uses another globalized minor-mode global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode: 0. emacs -Q 1. M-x global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET 2. C-x b test1 RET 3. RET ;; this inserts newline to show column indicator ;; that confirms this mode is enabled in the buffer 4. M-: (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "test2")) RET 5. RET ;; no column indicator, mode not enabled 6. C-h v display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET ;; confirms its value is nil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 08 04:50:27 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 09:50:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT0uO-0006NC-Om for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 04:50:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59267) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT0uM-0006Mt-Le for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 04:50:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT0uE-0004i6-Kg; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 04:50:14 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4863 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iT0uD-0003xz-Us; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 04:50:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:50:03 +0200 Message-Id: <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 07 Nov 2019 23:53:04 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 23:53:04 +0200 > > This looks like a bug. I found this issue while using global-tab-line-mode, > but to confirm that it's unrelated to tab-line, this bug report uses another > globalized minor-mode global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode: > > 0. emacs -Q > 1. M-x global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET > 2. C-x b test1 RET > 3. RET ;; this inserts newline to show column indicator > ;; that confirms this mode is enabled in the buffer > > 4. M-: (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "test2")) RET > 5. RET ;; no column indicator, mode not enabled > 6. C-h v display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET > ;; confirms its value is nil Sounds like globalized-minor-mode machinery sdomehow doesn't support the latter method of creating a buffer? Does the turn-on function of the mode get called in that scenario? 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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:10:30 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Descriptive-Robust: 073ad0f743734d29_1573593030275_4154737843 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573593030275:1589436402 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573593030275 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8999D7C6; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:10:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=linkov.net; bh=E6jqiK inrEHhXNT6xlTAEQgA7N4=; b=I3I04Xq1VVp6JBOunCmQd1349AIR/9Q+FGEViu +jA5UUkvtyAxjjd6piiVUXWkX73zzwKDmL1Q0CWxn0x3tn1CLN1MMQry4SbLKlyN 70YmZI25nG5h8cgqoslNI+ubOFZT8Bnddr7CqMgFiltufbMmzVF/cRzofAPybulU re11w= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D5D79D7C5; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:10:22 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a75 From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:33:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:50:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87r22dm83s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 38111 + notabug close 38111 quit >> This looks like a bug. I found this issue while using global-tab-line= -mode, >> but to confirm that it's unrelated to tab-line, this bug report uses a= nother >> globalized minor-mode global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode: >> >> 0. emacs -Q >> 1. M-x global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET >> 2. C-x b test1 RET >> 3. RET ;; this inserts newline to show column indicator >> ;; that confirms this mode is enabled in the buffer >> >> 4. M-: (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "test2")) RET >> 5. RET ;; no column indicator, mode not enabled >> 6. C-h v display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET >> ;; confirms its value is nil > > Sounds like globalized-minor-mode machinery sdomehow doesn't support > the latter method of creating a buffer? Does the turn-on function of > the mode get called in that scenario? 'C-x b' (switch-to-buffer) uses =E2=80=98window-normalize-buffer-to-switc= h-to=E2=80=99 to call after 'get-buffer-create' explicitly: (set-buffer-major-mode buffer) It seems this is not a problem in practice, since callers can add set-buffer-major-mode, so closing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 12 17:42:15 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2019 22:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58600 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUerX-0008US-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:42:15 -0500 Received: from smtp-2.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.43]:38567) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUerU-0008UI-Sd for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:42:13 -0500 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=44636 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-2.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUerP-00052l-HB; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300 Received: from wlgwil-nat-office.catalyst.net.nz ([202.78.240.7]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create In-Reply-To: <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: 38111@debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 2019-11-08 22:50, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Sounds like globalized-minor-mode machinery somehow doesn't support > the latter method of creating a buffer? Yep, globalized modes use `after-change-major-mode-hook' to call the buffer-local minor mode, and that hook is not triggered in these cases because, although new buffers are in `fundamental-mode' by default, the `fundamental-mode' function is not actually called, and so no mode change occurs. I believe this has cropped up in past discussion, but I don't recall where offhand. I agree that it's surprising when you are expecting the global mode(s) to be enabled (I first realised it when attempting to use a globalized mode for my custom key bindings, and discovering they were not being enabled in various buffers). If this were changed then there *might* be undesirable consequences to having lots of created-behind-the-scenes buffers suddenly doing things they never did before. If the current behaviour is kept, the documentation for globalized modes and for creating buffers should probably say something about the matter. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 13 16:50:00 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2019 21:50:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iV0WU-0007ou-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:50:00 -0500 Received: from bongo.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.21]:35328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iV0WR-0007oi-7b for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:49:55 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D92634232D; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-187-103.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.187.103]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 92656342363; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:49:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:49:54 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Stupid-Shrill: 580b699761b19412_1573681793847_404957779 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573681793847:197912859 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573681793847 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D38185225; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 13:49:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=6BmnB9kBIwVOtlMy/AZBLS0ireg=; b= JK+512utcZhZJ+UFA7Qso1DhW96LVt3xxp7Qw33VTwsT97K8xYk0HcXqGZrFcuY8 vYDBDw5ww9Cw5lmjKEksrpukMrh+pcFW9Q3VkdGfgykKWw0S+lKQ73iM22pp7rPp 5aS4Aeqry9LAncObc/koGocNyhv4drSK5v+slCS7HxQ= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF39D85224; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 13:49:45 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a44 From: Juri Linkov To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:12:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Phil Sainty's message of "Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300") Message-ID: <871rubmqf6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Sounds like globalized-minor-mode machinery somehow doesn't support >> the latter method of creating a buffer? > > Yep, globalized modes use `after-change-major-mode-hook' to call the > buffer-local minor mode, and that hook is not triggered in these cases > because, although new buffers are in `fundamental-mode' by default, > the `fundamental-mode' function is not actually called, and so no mode > change occurs. > > I believe this has cropped up in past discussion, but I don't recall > where offhand. > > I agree that it's surprising when you are expecting the global mode(s) > to be enabled (I first realised it when attempting to use a globalized > mode for my custom key bindings, and discovering they were not being > enabled in various buffers). > > If this were changed then there *might* be undesirable consequences to > having lots of created-behind-the-scenes buffers suddenly doing things > they never did before. > > If the current behaviour is kept, the documentation for globalized > modes and for creating buffers should probably say something about the > matter. Thanks for referring to the documentation. It already explains this in (info "(elisp) Defining Minor Modes") -- Macro: define-globalized-minor-mode global-mode mode turn-on keyword-args... body... ... Globally enabling the mode also affects buffers subsequently created by visiting files, and buffers that use a major mode other than Fundamental mode; but it does not detect the creation of a new buffer in Fundamental mode. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 04:02:31 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2019 09:02:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVXUs-0000sx-R3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:02:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37790) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVXUr-0000sk-FU for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:02:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVXUl-0000Yr-Q8; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:02:23 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2780 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVXUl-0008CJ-71; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:02:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:02:10 +0200 Message-Id: <83woc13431.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Phil Sainty In-reply-to: (message from Phil Sainty on Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300) Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: 38111@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300 > From: Phil Sainty > Cc: Juri Linkov , 38111@debbugs.gnu.org > > If the current behaviour is kept, the documentation for globalized > modes and for creating buffers should probably say something about the > matter. I think updating the documentation about this is indeed the way to go in this case. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 21:19:50 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 02:19:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmAo-0003Vv-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:19:50 -0500 Received: from bisque.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.18]:8273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idmAk-0003Vh-Mp; Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:19:48 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926FD6A1323; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 22:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-92-172.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.92.172]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 11A416A089C; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 22:57:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a51.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:57:48 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Drop-Plucky: 16337ef4422dc416_1575759468306_2868804160 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1575759468306:2016089413 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1575759468306 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9477183626; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 14:57:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=svdNZtGomr0CYMdaOlSko2kKDv8=; b= KWMy4kMy28WzO25L9fha4ICXMe6HiPsvrJmLIk+0IN7OtIaFVedLJGyqgSHd7FeW czAtvx2I3b6hyLEAY2JKbbu6xLBHJ4PL14AMYJh/EIrIQ2H2gpvRnBvhboooeNEt 7Xve1qm8FVt3ckYf2f+Ei90WcE/rbE/16/ySl53MEt8= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-96-42.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.96.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 731BC85749; Sat, 7 Dec 2019 14:57:38 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a51 From: Juri Linkov To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:56:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Phil Sainty's message of "Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:07 +1300") Message-ID: <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) reopen 38111 tags 38111 - notabug quit >> Sounds like globalized-minor-mode machinery somehow doesn't support >> the latter method of creating a buffer? > > Yep, globalized modes use `after-change-major-mode-hook' to call the > buffer-local minor mode, and that hook is not triggered in these cases > because, although new buffers are in `fundamental-mode' by default, > the `fundamental-mode' function is not actually called, and so no mode > change occurs. > > I believe this has cropped up in past discussion, but I don't recall > where offhand. > > I agree that it's surprising when you are expecting the global mode(s) > to be enabled (I first realised it when attempting to use a globalized > mode for my custom key bindings, and discovering they were not being > enabled in various buffers). > > If this were changed then there *might* be undesirable consequences to > having lots of created-behind-the-scenes buffers suddenly doing things > they never did before. Actually that turned out to be a problem in practice, e.g. with this recipe: 0. emacs -Q 1. M-x global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode RET 2. M-& ls -la RET ;; or any other command that produces enough lines 3. observe that the global mode is activated in the output buffer 4. M-! ls -la RET 5. the global mode is NOT activated in the output buffer The difference between these two is that shell-command-on-region uses just (get-buffer-create "*Shell Command Output*") and doesn't set its default fundamental-mode explicitly. The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode everywhere? diff --git a/lisp/simple.el b/lisp/simple.el index 67ddab3d34..1c4fdf9945 100644 --- a/lisp/simple.el +++ b/lisp/simple.el @@ -3925,6 +3926,7 @@ shell-command-on-region ;; replacing its entire contents. (let ((buffer (get-buffer-create (or output-buffer "*Shell Command Output*")))) + (set-buffer-major-mode buffer) (unwind-protect (if (and (eq buffer (current-buffer)) (or (not shell-command-dont-erase-buffer) From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 02:20:02 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 08 11:55:28 2019 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2019 16:55:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idzqC-0003E4-IL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:55:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1idzqA-0003Ds-Mz for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:55:27 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idzq5-0008Hi-1y; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:55:21 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2862 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1idzpy-00019f-Mg; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:55:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 18:54:55 +0200 Message-Id: <835ziqep0g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:56:00 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 38111@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:56:00 +0200 > > The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need > to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode > everywhere? This is a problem with all globalized minor modes, right? 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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 22:29:02 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Ruddy-Plucky: 3f0aa6aa72b8419b_1575844140071_2820807671 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1575844140071:3929368261 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1575844140070 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a26.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a26.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE70D7F742; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:28:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=Ya3l9r1RwJDnvmnbFTKTcQ4GM9I=; b= HAIaEa1YuSHTORnx6PinxG9IsN/wLwIsHhhUG0Zurg0Cs9nF7Lm6ruklKHe4NnTu qNY6lM453fyKy0ZVlHVpOzMBPwByAO698pwgVZf/TWfDXvW8OdqUSfwxXmeoQr4I dpWvv81S64VlILRQNxPr2D7q0vAQeFLfH9rnau8xm2A= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-96-42.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.96.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a26.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5192F7F124; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:28:56 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a26 From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835ziqep0g.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:27:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835ziqep0g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 08 Dec 2019 18:54:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87k176xxjh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need >> to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode >> everywhere? > > This is a problem with all globalized minor modes, right? Yes, with all globalized minor modes. So I installed the patch that fixes this particular case, and leaving this bug report open waiting for a more general solution. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 20 07:06:42 2020 Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2020 11:06:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB3-000368-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB2-00035r-FJ for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=z0aV2OsNGSSz/7ZBPsnXR3oQIpnnM79kRQ57LC+UemY=; b=AzQp34durC2/OEdBueWaRCwul+ EbXdTdrl56odMeGqamrG5PTfadS4g0uSmNLbIg6y9QQfh1bN2kr1fnaoexlswXclKlxwf2vKwXvMM OVFJm406jwPdZJ6gZYpMi8J2FIWbc3Qyo5Nl0ipi6fC74nT2YMFtzcvHZisod1rGaQXI=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxAq-0006gp-Rq; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:33 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835ziqep0g.fsf@gnu.org> <87k176xxjh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Now-Playing: Act's _Laughter, Tears and Rage_: "Gestures" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k176xxjh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:27:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87zh5koggc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Juri Linkov writes: >>> The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need >>> to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode >>> everywhere? >> >> This is a problem with all gl [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38111 Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, Eli Zaretskii , 38111@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: >>> The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need >>> to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode >>> everywhere? >> >> This is a problem with all globalized minor modes, right? > > Yes, with all globalized minor modes. > > So I installed the patch that fixes this particular case, > and leaving this bug report open waiting for a more general solution. I don't think a general solution is really possible here. We don't want any get-buffer-create to run the globalised modes -- that would be slow and awkward. We only want those to run in buffers that users actually end up using, and I think that's something the modes themselves must somehow decide. So I don't think there's any realistic progress to be made in this bug report, and I'm closing it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 20 07:06:48 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2020 11:06:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBA-00036S-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:48 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB8-000362-Ff for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ujTx2bfQIpyRWoo3rbgatFEJnE6Tou7Bg2yupcbpnj8=; b=k7m9Xo7SBXTc4lTIoGFiLMVCXf oPH8unWSF5cuIIQkEdvhB30M3GF8umkYAYiq02ApXBLaYgZhcjiRBRumhzoV2PFcpFuBijTMECKq4 eQi3SU4FPmPF4prTcran4KY9vcOsKq+eBRcZtRx4pGCe13nILv73wD4evR8PEcut6rGw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB0-0006h0-P0 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:37 +0200 Message-Id: <87y2l4ogg2.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #38111 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 38111 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 38111 quit From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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