From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 18:01:20 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2019 23:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iS7pA-000546-61 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:01:20 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iS7p5-00053w-SS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:01:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS7p4-0008Ne-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:01:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS7p3-0004i2-Bi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:01:14 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.74]:45011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS7p3-0004aQ-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:01:13 -0500 Received: from there ([88.20.79.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.158]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MRTEp-1iFeyH1aS5-00NOXG for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:01:08 +0100 From: Cecilio Pardo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Error on texinfo documentation of variable 'ls-lisp-verbosity' Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:01:05 +0100 Message-ID: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:tz33h9W0pBDAC3U3+wW2AL0n2pRStxGv+t78a09eozjTIO3UtuT 1DzrRdHEZnkbeHQYgSkkdmO9eyuLB3Kj9IGjLvQJ7Bm/DW3jnxRJJBiXZGpAxTUjCSZkDsw GJYo7wsl77VxXbhruEQQu6UL1Vf9ofRWeqpw1M3OTL0JD8FXrIpd+T+AoEwPNfKZr8d6jkP fk542dlpUNbj9RUQYFXcg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cf7xzIVanl0=:3+am6RrN52LFWblHoJpXqV fUrUWj1+lqO0bDrJlQ1vdlUzWU6X4SAAcZvlCisubIEJn7MR2tcBR4qucBIFvx7Sop1+p989J eWa0L7H2kvuhMWhrDSeITauGT389B1ZRX7mFRRAmH59ChmZNq2Aheoc8DnCryoIwFeDY4cvRI 0uE5chvJBKLTCP+JF6IruHNMG6vsLWFgckx+ZqfSGFdqCG79v+YJs+nxCWfhTev04Awa2j845 m/FZrBBay2onk/MTwPWsjdii/v8MlN4/tC52sixu9apNkMr2RT8rEBrON7IKLtDWGs/KJp7Fb qhx/xNaJQhs1DuR2eiY/B8f7WBcHPNX0Plh0Hn7WlJDdWptlm2PEOHiHUmhd+ehWDBociBjhH tyzQeToYPGlbNsUW9GZ34iG0lnH+4VOjwLdR5VjMbFR/SBHdAQRsPUzEyPT93vSRkN1URm79D xB42rMwpEVwEce66dki0QkiUYIlFYt212pcveVOGaPUSrVgtrIm88ml876HMdvOBDiiHYdR9A b8E5YH2yUooBzpt5WsV6LZ9SqrazefH8MlGUTZDaNoBUuzD1eOtj2SoGpjVJAmlIGPuC10Om6 FhClGbi8WCLkiUZGLYkeIlJ0GYMfCNbrSPZNh9J8AmutPpUd0NSsCZ5VaIYHZOsahHggiYfLK dTw+rz3Dby9IfSO3nhGHm1YRUQz7f9ZkzghGb7VlDUD8SM0vCAPi+kpTvpNMSsY6X6rjdrvGR eVQ/P6tq5m05AnwPWgodlbLD1htDNVDjd5pMGwj053R8X5tnSA+9ikxJO+ogNKN6hWFPc8Qol 6pDL9pN4Eh5AqepjXWRBeq9rxyAnAF7hCF+foR+v6/wM1ihJTdQ9A3yglgK6azxglfb3yZkEo K1WhrT4GJ5bxyuQreYYBVyedxX7XLZGek6AdyqYSc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.72.192.74 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Severity: documentation Tags: patch The info documentation fo ls-lisp-verbosity states that the value contains 'one or more of the symbols', while the docstring says 'none or more'. The empty list works ok, so it should be 'none'. diff --git a/doc/emacs/msdos.texi b/doc/emacs/msdos.texi index 55093a080a..920af2cbf5 100644 --- a/doc/emacs/msdos.texi +++ b/doc/emacs/msdos.texi @@ -390,7 +390,7 @@ ls in Lisp @vindex ls-lisp-verbosity The variable @code{ls-lisp-verbosity} controls the file attributes that @file{ls-lisp.el} displays. The value should be a list that -contains one or more of the symbols @code{links}, @code{uid}, and +contains none or more of the symbols @code{links}, @code{uid}, and @code{gid}. @code{links} means display the count of different file names that are associated with (a.k.a.@: @dfn{links to}) the file's data; this is only useful on NTFS volumes. @code{uid} means display -- Cecilio Pardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 12:24:07 2019 Received: (at 38077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2019 17:24:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41208 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSP2N-0004I0-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:24:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36657) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSP2L-0004HR-Q5 for 38077-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:24:06 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSP2F-0003ne-QX; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:24:00 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4033 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iSP2F-0001ND-1H; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:23:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:23:43 +0200 Message-Id: <83woccgbq8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Cecilio Pardo In-reply-to: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> (message from Cecilio Pardo on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:01:05 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38077: Error on texinfo documentation of variable 'ls-lisp-verbosity' References: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38077-done Cc: 38077-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Cecilio Pardo > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:01:05 +0100 > > The info documentation fo ls-lisp-verbosity states that the value > contains 'one or more of the symbols', while the docstring says 'none or > more'. The empty list works ok, so it should be 'none'. Thanks. "None or more" sounds awkward, so I fixed this a bit differently. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 23:39:52 2019 Received: (at 38077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2019 04:39:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSZaK-0007Zl-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSZaI-0007ZS-Kj for 38077@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSZaD-0006by-84; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:45 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iSZaB-0002Yp-C9; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:43 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Cecilio Pardo In-Reply-To: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> (message from Cecilio Pardo on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:01:05 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38077: Error on texinfo documentation of variable 'ls-lisp-verbosity' References: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:43 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38077 Cc: 38077@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] "None or more" sounds very strange in English. It is better to say "zero or more". "A list of zero or more of the following symbols:" -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 07 09:29:52 2019 Received: (at 38077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2019 14:29:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSinH-0002mV-MI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:29:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38481) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSinF-0002mF-J8 for 38077@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:29:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43053) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSinA-0001KG-7K; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:29:44 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1828 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iSimy-0000S4-CW; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:29:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:29:20 +0200 Message-Id: <83a797g3pb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:43 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#38077: Error on texinfo documentation of variable 'ls-lisp-verbosity' References: <86a79a3p3i.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38077 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, 38077@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:43 -0500 > Cc: 38077@debbugs.gnu.org > > "None or more" sounds very strange in English. It is better to say > "zero or more". > > "A list of zero or more of the following symbols:" Yes, but I preferred to say "nil" instead of "list of zero symbols". This is a user manual, not an ELisp manual, so we shouldn't assume every reader knows they are equivalent. From unknown Sat Sep 13 08:57:10 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator