From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 01 16:51:29 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2019 20:51:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQdtI-0008BV-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 16:51:29 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQcuk-0000CB-2t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 15:48:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36833) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQcuj-000215-10 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 15:48:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQcuh-00021T-Ll for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 15:48:52 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.73]:37575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQcuh-0001t6-Cb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 15:48:51 -0400 Received: from there ([88.20.79.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.158]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MsYzF-1i7ZzS47qt-00tyMY for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:48:46 +0100 From: Cecilio Pardo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:48:44 +0100 Message-ID: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jaqz8s9l81u1lspI2CWOsFdRbKyN4nZ+9wlN4Zx3NZ2Eopq/nZ3 ileejVEcm+ZZ6v7LYVs+MQZhmR3PWddQPhpp1+dZpfJsrKTI1AOU5CYl0wxk/Z5RwPOrjVV QbkxZDFgQncZtyJ02r+rFyG1eflpZ8z2wOTFHNGWU2+ZDLinmWMZIBLrbfIyld8yYBKFBKX +suqemWE/PREVnQBtYyBA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:dOFDWTtbYpI=:iTdTdPetZXd65m8Ye+K2iY hniuLlTdr1Ia09BrmpomqW8SimAbaGmF1gyxFYXsLaVDTw/yGctCiMjSmpAy26caQ0dtS3RS6 0CodqzyZIS/FfnpRDUXKZbLmiFovKw8to/QLdGm78Ul0Uu/GH5cpMebcqwU1cThkNzFTRNBH0 J4gV5LZF7uPD2NXMINv0CHoKBqE3LzHEwGc6acj9I3vOvm7xrcG0sOCCDHBRtSZtO3+KdOhnM 7ZAZ3dN/sfcD524AlzPHPCeumi9/1SbgZy+bxC8OtvTFYLafk/0iL+jQhtQtsyPMsh7nKeba4 9kITjx4YXVDW+MFPmFRPW1QYNq/kpyzV3UD/fOgoUgISCqUqb/P6bjFhiuajSNPe8CtoGpVwp 31QIVR169vpCsUJyXt/chmjGUzVB7FlTc6q9VZHkIEvXdKdtKkfyCNDKcdKduMR51R+Hqnvw3 6FByPTj7Ps3+QOUcjKTDIcs2OJ/OiXzJca1/G2JtLEtAvTMREziJCPJ8AnhjPTn4OqLaHAILI 23DyqL16+itVtngE+8t88IVPgbTezFvSj72waL+Rib1eyWBNfbWfiWHZqbUXLn4jQZSX2bShM VEqNIMIXx0EyYgPrmOM/7TDWi1TashP+dv7LEtTxjkg2P4mUhluj9cIuoOwTP0bj2MXH6SZBh J4hKxX64uAyN925Xwz61gnn+LDs4yqA9RhirVFexVsbq+380uj4YlqGdSjsmdsVGe8lVlO5BD ftqy20fREbIyUwqN4/nS9UtxazjBcry1H107RbRaDzsgJclHzvrvJoPmdO7gEOMc5JMxDN0V1 ccm7TuQc7ZmuXZU8vAWfXd7sxgPKiLMKnXHULPUmZIMwr05h883J6VHqtXFQftWYH3oVOlDuQ pLirt4eF71tD1zv3FalzGVZKTdM3LuVOHOIOsaa6c= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.72.192.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 16:51:25 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Severity: minor Tags: documentation patch diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi index cdd01e47f0..f0bdeaa1a8 100644 --- a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi +++ b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi @@ -126,7 +126,7 @@ Which versions of Windows @cindex supported versions of Windows Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows from -Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. The Windows +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 10. The Windows port is built using the Win32 API and supports most features of the X version, including variable width fonts, images and tooltips. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 01 17:05:59 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2019 21:05:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57357 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQe7L-0000CG-B0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:05:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43390) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQe7J-0000Bz-Tx for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:05:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQe7E-0000qA-8h; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:05:52 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3122 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iQe7B-00030K-OD; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:05:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:05:53 +0200 Message-Id: <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Cecilio Pardo In-reply-to: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> (message from Cecilio Pardo on Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:48:44 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Cecilio Pardo > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:48:44 +0100 > > -Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. The Windows > +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 10. The Windows I'd rather we said something that didn't require us to go back and fix it every year. Basically, all the Windows versions of the NT family are supported, and will be supported in the future. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 01 21:48:14 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2019 01:48:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQiWR-0008FF-Ku for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:48:13 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]:38849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQiST-00083j-0Q for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:44:05 -0400 Received: from there ([88.20.79.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.142]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MfpjF-1hl1uP1tBR-00gKba; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:43:56 +0100 From: Cecilio Pardo To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 In-Reply-To: <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:05:53 +0200") References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (windows-nt) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:43:54 +0100 Message-ID: <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EBgr3iFoTkxEI0A0c/ni6yHYApGoYyhf3/ib/0Ymltz8jMN0RfG DhuZt/7QaWEfPSE8iXDwuHeb4GFLY+h0DEKNNhtZPLRB8aU4vhb2dnfNRdTmZTdXWYooFg/ Qjueq/S2jYQg9aJ2i3Mk9jowbMD3NvXwiqArLmVaQTbJBgNOMKFMpfgrgyz/j7f5G6zqNrF TS27rumEwjjiGuRgRpYIg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Lambf+7hGY4=:u9StCPyW4qt7KpkxaB5gJk ZZq562eyf2pEvxNg6Yt5HruTmuEG+pFdx5KKCgQFXQNFscDTQME/38uVMM0fMQCVpuYEaWQEa W6Zns5yg8gbX54Iab39GEyew+Y9lLobDoYEsPmro3Tw+lNdBMt4YdNMgnEueReswE2WmSbhLx zaeLr2QVYfiBZwTOpu8UYUrMmJA8wfqKq+4aNceLKRxOr9v2nlaIjVjr03fA1Nwgr+DBmzurg mThtSWBVAGXa+X7G5FyVWAcXsNPmdnA1jG8VXlOON/G5vcimGo2Hdh2L7sWUsD8KeAr67bUmi ZDjFIiFtopjDPcBadlIiFl0IuVHtcEp43svjn/rTwkPYMN8/+CQC8H/DIQexqPHMGBWsNN5Bf vldpocaVD5B24CcGAznSWJx26u0Fs+9lK+5F3G8YOx9amQIaaQAZd2GRXkLaF5UqMl+EYn49j SHkyZgrQSIQFq0H0Xx0SIjg5Ym9Zcqp/r5KSIz6XBFVNvxrg8np7iVwupAL6CSXicK9hUz8uA 0vDO+1F18LYEZm+ofIuwmaRd9ib4Ae3yV3s9fk1vK2UWZVpjrhfiBHmVYnpTAyYVDlDEdcvoV ioU9OcgrwPnlzSKGym4Teu8xyaNdVwrh0B0qY1WhcTrkOUeQVJ7QMtMiH0AI4VZ1XXgX30RJ3 td/t10+3EorOnQHJkLfZLDqolB6Du4F3ECp9//SJ5PxN6V6jzWhmT+upToY4M1dUayGiiu3An UhVzYbix1H9yW8NcAVWx1wzd8acIS+F5IA00Ht7M2fv/wEnOJN7RtbrbVvipec9zjMUSfRbEj CqE1B/vn9j0/anYLqrMpAQA9EAeromQ3TomTYtPG2ARU7S8gbM2Qx4yFBjfuEJyyYBADk0bh6 GvAZYD4FJHOV6oVa6jVUOac2+vxdALnTK+R0RYJ+A= X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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The Windows >> +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 10. The Windows > > I'd rather we said something that didn't require us to go back and fix > it every year. Basically, all the Windows versions of the NT family > are supported, and will be supported in the future. Maybe something like this? diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi index cdd01e47f0..4dddfeeb16 100644 --- a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi +++ b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi @@ -126,7 +126,7 @@ Which versions of Windows @cindex supported versions of Windows Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows from -Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. The Windows +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through current ones. The Windows port is built using the Win32 API and supports most features of the X version, including variable width fonts, images and tooltips. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 02 04:11:38 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2019 08:11:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQoVT-0001Qv-4w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:11:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQoVP-0001Qg-7e for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:11:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQoVJ-00037F-7l; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:11:25 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3787 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iQoVI-000582-GR; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:11:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 10:11:30 +0200 Message-Id: <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Cecilio Pardo In-reply-to: <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> (message from Cecilio Pardo on Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:43:54 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Cecilio Pardo > Cc: Cecilio Pardo , 38023@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:43:54 +0100 > > > I'd rather we said something that didn't require us to go back and fix > > it every year. Basically, all the Windows versions of the NT family > > are supported, and will be supported in the future. > > Maybe something like this? > > diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi > index cdd01e47f0..4dddfeeb16 100644 > --- a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi > +++ b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi > @@ -126,7 +126,7 @@ Which versions of Windows > @cindex supported versions of Windows > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows from > -Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. The Windows > +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through current ones. The Windows I'm admittedly splitting hair, but I think this is slightly better: Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting from NT 4.0. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 07 19:25:29 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 00:25:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSs5e-0007v2-OM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:25:29 -0500 Received: from host.gofardesign.uk ([208.79.239.190]:48980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSs5d-0007uq-1N for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:25:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=83KfYNe8iqmjGoYEawUQ4TnNsa6F6mX/DBTz+KdgjHI=; b=ctBv8B03JhQQTQ5IHgRwsKad3l mHBfC0upD87/tG2e5dyYpDASL26955m8MjyinenK8XGfjHTEoCSU32a6Dwo50GDgqftW6aDRsXaAG B5IxJRGWPCCgyAODoDxJj6YWwqy//iaQY7xaa0s1E4aRr7W+yqDw9tsxH+HSEHYL73gQ=; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:50160 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iSs5V-0001JM-E9; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:25:18 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 In-Reply-To: <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 02 Nov 2019 10:11:30 +0200") References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 01:25:15 +0100 Message-ID: <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, Cecilio Pardo , 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Cecilio Pardo >> Cc: Cecilio Pardo , 38023@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:43:54 +0100 >> >> > I'd rather we said something that didn't require us to go back and fix >> > it every year. Basically, all the Windows versions of the NT family >> > are supported, and will be supported in the future. >> >> Maybe something like this? >> >> diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi >> index cdd01e47f0..4dddfeeb16 100644 >> --- a/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi >> +++ b/doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi >> @@ -126,7 +126,7 @@ Which versions of Windows >> @cindex supported versions of Windows >> >> Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows from >> -Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through to Windows 8.1. The Windows >> +Windows 98 and Windows NT 4.0 through current ones. The Windows > > I'm admittedly splitting hair, but I think this is slightly better: > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > from NT 4.0. Personally, I know very little about Microsoft Windows. Only by reading this list have I recently learned that Windows 10 (or 8 or whatever) is part of the "NT family" of Windows. And only two minutes ago I checked Wikipedia and learned that Windows XP is also part of that same family. I would guess that some less tech-savvy users than me (you would perhaps think there are none, but there are!) might be confused by the above, and not immediately realize that the "NT family" includes also all the recent versions of Windows. So perhaps we should keep "the latest version" or something like that. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 08 05:00:27 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 10:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44653 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT147-0006f9-3O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:00:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32880) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT146-0006ew-0V for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:00:26 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:32947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT140-00038i-4N; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:00:20 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1522 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iT13z-0002yB-9L; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:00:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:00:08 +0200 Message-Id: <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 08 Nov 2019 01:25:15 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: Cecilio Pardo , cpardo@imayhem.com, > 38023@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 01:25:15 +0100 > > > I'm admittedly splitting hair, but I think this is slightly better: > > > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > > from NT 4.0. > > Personally, I know very little about Microsoft Windows. Only by > reading this list have I recently learned that Windows 10 (or 8 or > whatever) is part of the "NT family" of Windows. And only two minutes > ago I checked Wikipedia and learned that Windows XP is also part of > that same family. Well, that FAQ is for users of MS-Windows... > I would guess that some less tech-savvy users than me (you would > perhaps think there are none, but there are!) might be confused by the > above, and not immediately realize that the "NT family" includes also > all the recent versions of Windows. > > So perhaps we should keep "the latest version" or something like that. How about this: Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP and on. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 08 07:39:07 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 12:39:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3Xf-0004X2-Ey for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 07:39:07 -0500 Received: from host.gofardesign.uk ([208.79.239.190]:46031) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3Xb-0004WP-7y for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 07:39:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=USB8W1v5eanaR/QGQBMiV9VPiENS6j+yZyKH+yWYT2U=; b=ZimhdhXdYBVlCPnvtBMDvVDXyp lNgvN4S4TSZn1qFNOY6icMv5SxXrBuyUTz4kk8AG0MWosTPYHZ9yJm0+pFzAUlAn+PIQ/IhG0gfRu euJLBy9rblg5G1HWsyytk+/E7zALszwqN7aeiI/fRxVZpGER3b0Rj92qwsykpUYsH01Q=; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:37146 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iT3XS-0000EB-7U; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 06:38:54 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 In-Reply-To: <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:00:08 +0200") References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:38:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87k18atueb.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I would guess that some less tech-savvy users than me (you would >> perhaps think there are none, but there are!) might be confused by the >> above, and not immediately realize that the "NT family" includes also >> all the recent versions of Windows. >> >> So perhaps we should keep "the latest version" or something like that. > > How about this: > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP > and on. Thank you, that is much better. I suggest that we install that change. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 08 08:50:41 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 13:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT4ev-0008PN-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:50:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50714) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT4eu-0008PB-1G for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:50:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iT4en-0000ER-OM; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:50:33 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3633 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iT4ek-0005WY-Gf; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:50:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:50:04 +0200 Message-Id: <834kzecwab.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: <87k18atueb.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:38:52 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k18atueb.fsf@marxist.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:38:52 +0100 > > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > > from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP > > and on. > > Thank you, that is much better. I suggest that we install that > change. Feel free to install, and thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 08 09:46:45 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 14:46:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT5XB-0002ui-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:46:45 -0500 Received: from host.gofardesign.uk ([208.79.239.190]:49952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iT5Wl-0002ZI-9U; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:46:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rVPUxd79TsQp0Y6yoF9KE4Ff6tUGv30XgC69pnO8B9E=; b=JT1+nH4HM+upQ9c71LafdphCf4 oibdP58OQ6I6rmGL9A8+ydaWNufQVICrhAAXcgzjb9UB9NW4WwEqrcHavK3mOFpD2+cXm+p0DvB1l lyW2vJPsgaNYyx222cy1cs70Nbpcf8/fR/Vye0QsnwtSMxopt6VKalduZW9eZMb02xdU=; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:55492 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iT5WZ-0005gj-Mo; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:46:08 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 In-Reply-To: <834kzecwab.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:50:04 +0200") References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k18atueb.fsf@marxist.se> <834kzecwab.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: <871ruitoia.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 38023 27.1 thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:38:52 +0100 >> >> > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X >> > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting >> > from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP >> > and on. >> >> Thank you, that is much better. I suggest that we install that >> change. > > Feel free to install, and thanks. Pushed in your name as commit 05167c1173. Closing the bug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 16 05:21:16 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2019 10:21:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvCe-0002nT-2A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 05:21:16 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:33200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvCT-0002mV-8U for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 05:21:09 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FECE16005E for <38023@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:20:59 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1573899659; bh=et/Kl9YIsZAUj8lnfDtYbUqjfE8sGbbfDl72pLVK22Y=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=gscbig/X+Pi2znxjS3cBTD0WsxgRp8NXEIFFdx13dLdJj5yhg/dJvtNHYILN9XmOr BF9VoICzqSyifuE955YSiyidgAd+BXXqaYgukBRgXRblSA3ccULbb2CuD813d4iSOm ng2azhEZe6u6LLEbcbmSCNxXm0Iuv9aEpH7Qi+S61z6TVX7o0UvBFeA+ooIGeg+ao9 tiBoTJjf2vYHWyt33YrZ6uM2HkTaD/0iEX0u68CIcIT1Rk7w4gNaiJKj9EL3eSTZ/2 sQnFWGyrT9UuYMC2u6BRqTFApz2L6p9fshrhOgTx05p/CZO2vqj+4W6T6ETwLum/Rx HyiOP6EG46fTg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 47FWT52LJfz6tm8; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:20:57 +0100 (CET) From: Tomas Nordin To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 In-Reply-To: <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87k180ktpz.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > How about this: > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP > and on. A bit late jump-in from my side but, to me this text first imply that all versions of 9X is supported but in the same breath say it runs from 98 onward. But was there any more 9X after 98? Isn't it more like that 98 is supported and then all versions of NT... -- Tomas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 16 05:55:26 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2019 10:55:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvjh-0003aX-QR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 05:55:26 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:57375) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvjf-0003aG-P9 for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 05:55:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1573901712; bh=WmrnmQWUEGXL7zIay1t93YcVctvsG6J32OULqzZRObU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=J6Yb12ZhHfv7S2WB30JhJ69DcTou2SudlVwKsk4v1nyy7ZvNJ7XbyNke3YWe8fKiY pVTx8YZkTz1tL69EHROBjpFy1LfiOUTuyEKXSyeMq7dDnrEQN04eC77+sXlXr8zrcP mhK+Y8U2zvmwyipRcatymGM++JL8Jn51fy77TuSY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([46.125.249.58]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MKsjH-1iAgvN0Q7p-00LCKp; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:55:12 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 To: Tomas Nordin , Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k180ktpz.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: <74e22966-d7e1-2ae1-af28-0e3ca69914a3@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:55:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87k180ktpz.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-AT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VxWodo68QNqMWikd4Y0/opzwCUfJYmKqkUEGTzYhTO7wNd5MqwP g4dToESXGtfi1KBiP6EaBXSvfx+3wXPT231LEauJVHZGhA8yWz2LVfP31vAa0CBn7eUau/h Cf3iljlg6iGpjyEvuwhpqnx6S05jHIoirozla7uLvKygAS57pvdTfQZR+QQSKThV9B7Ztjg wLsWsL/LQz5dHdt/zb5hg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:gA4XuwKaOX0=:DCKbIH6jJrbRoj4EBk5mTe ktw+Skhxc71lDGeHWqWOPtz2iOjxnFv66MUzUu/YFa9QA9CNsAfTxq6Eb+pEQ3oOzUWTaMi7A 7fJNskaccQHPDjUyxQ512JXDuPoi4K9SqVlPxMnLg9SQUzzG+CK39XEMqfh8ehj27IQvVEIcX q/L6mBjIaIxIVpesR89ULbIqmwUaONjN5/N/zA7jGX94NqZA8haVIRfcp9BHrHTuxy1VsonZg kXB9QwLuhVe73dSq06WqYunHB5Qa58m2ADP6sBclVdjn2puu276/ecDOLM3QSbxL8+pq9CJC8 bfLnbhhwkQTz2NeMExCtefUA8HTDq0Czj4OwvvUicPD8oZNhmVDfM+1AxXngjw9CBGWZ3jAHb +cSpAtHnRuvgd4mCICVWJkYnvd7Mfi0I3ivQ1jCnHz5Cgb1opXL6Og7IwKltbvOChBDrbmnzt 9fswbDstpD2qOGkZro16PWkFAh+BvQxpdkwz2P8WKSv/83dES9WhecwMVnVQxqgHtoaTUqem+ HFqEaoiyG1ltex3BbWFc6Q1jGaxr18ZHYMweHy+H/urdp0ZkKuIcxYYW24Bri3twTxh/rHSXq D4/AV+/y1XXPLGi/wpu7wLYC9BVf3XG8CanpcC0+6m99eBitL/vfCyqz+gKap+owTTxMu7YNi +xQUCVLUFDlqw5jqLcZ2GJsVnOboa5HEaG7HwS8w3FMyokPwhfGp6gpZFWT3McDvaGHxJRxXt VX+odvZpDOPaVrHMHAyv6Efih39c4B3Q/CoihRZwwy7SuAsMtiQphC6urH0utyr7scOQ33ypp lLReGUER0NXQxHRZdIKeWQlJgu9BrZWqyQRTCrrcryPn5ruLFGWGLnxMRYQtMa8zKwsYWhWKR owR2FC6rI7n2U4EjJAsVmrhImwq4Pj6sTjaGM0bl0mFN/HEn/Efw0g9sS7ftCIg8GPwTrCUMy Pr9i6hc6PHeE+qFn1wZU7ASiBFkoDyjnORS56qQoOyl4GVuMMMX9/t/aaMQABXN1kJf8ajFHo VAeJ+hXQiGz11DB7y/xQBxEAvkxgdD+F861fgoKZhvafOnPfAPTNuce8h1uwtsS0NQBOCEj2+ 1xHFACiEhDcnwrPvwsibGf4SacLjiWITihDZM5PMNXHv6toYwVbPE90wIE7G3PMCqkn7tJbpI rDA3h+gPJvjcyPRftg9va2edbqq4qTOFkVkwgGy3JIobHUDdQR21JTBlGzGVKZJfJV3fCNFuV pDTRht0LjPFXxoeOisWYVJB48GUzy6F8CJsjIUA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > But was there any more 9X after 98? Windows ME. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 16 06:00:15 2019 Received: (at 38023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2019 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvoN-0003k9-86 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:00:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvoL-0003jj-04 for 38023@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:00:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvoE-0002i4-Eb; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:00:06 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2239 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVvoD-0006pu-2e; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:00:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:00:03 +0200 Message-Id: <83h8346q8c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tomas Nordin In-reply-to: <87k180ktpz.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Tomas Nordin on Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:20:56 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38023: Update win32 faq: emacs works on windows 10 References: <8636f7v0mb.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8336f7l32m.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeyrrr1h.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <83ftj6k899.fsf@gnu.org> <877e4bz02c.fsf@marxist.se> <83tv7ed6xj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k180ktpz.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38023 Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, stefan@marxist.se, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Tomas Nordin > Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, cpardo@inmotica-integral.es, 38023@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:20:56 +0100 > > > Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows 9X > > from Windows 98 onward, and all versions of the NT family starting > > from NT 4.0; this includes all the modern versions from Windows XP > > and on. > > A bit late jump-in from my side but, to me this text first imply that > all versions of 9X is supported but in the same breath say it runs from > 98 onward. But was there any more 9X after 98? Yes, there was Windows Me. From unknown Sun Aug 17 22:08:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator