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26.1; Please support creating a remote temporary file with Tramp

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From: Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1; Please support creating a remote temporary file with Tramp
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:02:57 +0100

I am working on an Emacs application that spawns a remote process via
start-file-process. That process will use a remote file that should
ideally be generated in analogy to a local temporary file as can be
obtained with make-temp-file.

Specifically, the application is ediprolog, and there is user demand for
extending it to work with remote Prolog processes:

    https://github.com/triska/ediprolog/issues/4

Hence, it would be really useful if for example make-temp-file could be
extended to create a temporary file on the remote machine.

Thank you and all the best!
Markus

Message #8 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at>
Cc: 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1; Please support creating a remote temporary
 file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 08:57:35 +0100

Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at> writes:

Hi Markus,

> I am working on an Emacs application that spawns a remote process via
> start-file-process. That process will use a remote file that should
> ideally be generated in analogy to a local temporary file as can be
> obtained with make-temp-file.
>
> Specifically, the application is ediprolog, and there is user demand for
> extending it to work with remote Prolog processes:
>
>     https://github.com/triska/ediprolog/issues/4
>
> Hence, it would be really useful if for example make-temp-file could be
> extended to create a temporary file on the remote machine.

There is `make-nearby-temp-file' for that purpose.

I'm closing the bug as "notabug". Feel free to come back if it doesn't
work for you.

> Thank you and all the best!
> Markus

Best regards, Michael.

Message #15 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1;
 Please support creating a remote temporary file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:23:21 +0100

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

>
> There is `make-nearby-temp-file' for that purpose.
>
> I'm closing the bug as "notabug". Feel free to come back if it doesn't
> work for you.

Thank you Michael! I did not see this mentioned anywhere in the Tramp or
Emacs documentation, and so, could you please consider documenting it?

Thank you and all the best,
Markus

Message #18 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1;
 Please support creating a remote temporary file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:33:43 +0100

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> There is `make-nearby-temp-file' for that purpose.

Thank you, I found it now in the documentation!

All the best,
Markus

Message #21 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at>
Cc: 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1; Please support creating a remote temporary
 file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:41:04 +0100

Markus Triska <triska <at> metalevel.at> writes:

Hi Markus,

>> There is `make-nearby-temp-file' for that purpose.
>>
>> I'm closing the bug as "notabug". Feel free to come back if it doesn't
>> work for you.
>
> Thank you Michael! I did not see this mentioned anywhere in the Tramp or
> Emacs documentation, and so, could you please consider documenting it?

Tramp is just a library which offers alternative implementations for
Emacs functions. It does not document which functions it implements,
that's part of the Emacs doc.

I don't have Emacs 26.1 at hand, just 26.2. It documents
`make-nearby-temp-file' in:

- /etc/NEWS
- the elisp info, see (info "(elisp) Unique File Names") and
  (info "(elisp) Magic File Names")

> Thank you and all the best,
> Markus

Best regards, Michael.

Message #24 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: triska <at> metalevel.at, 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1;
 Please support creating a remote temporary file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 11:11:51 +0200

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:41:04 +0100
> Cc: 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> - the elisp info, see (info "(elisp) Unique File Names") and
>   (info "(elisp) Magic File Names")

I suggest to add an index entry there.  For example:

  @cindex temporary file on a remote host

This might make this function more discoverable.

Message #27 received at 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: triska <at> metalevel.at, 38010 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#38010: 26.1; Please support creating a remote temporary
 file with Tramp
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 10:38:06 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I suggest to add an index entry there.  For example:
>
>   @cindex temporary file on a remote host
>
> This might make this function more discoverable.

Good idea. Done, and pushed to master.

Best regards, Michael.

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