From jidanni@jidanni.org Mon Jun 9 10:30:51 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Jun 2008 17:30:51 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m59HUkvJ006350 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:30:47 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5lCg-0005z7-0g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:30:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5lCe-0005xD-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:30:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45743 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5lCe-0005x3-5h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:30:44 -0400 Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5]:53497 helo=blingymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5lCd-0000zg-PZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:30:44 -0400 Received: from jidanni2.jidanni.org (122-127-33-224.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.33.224]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blingymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC1414D780 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:30:36 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: apropos mostly a rummage heap References: <87bq2bi8v7.fsf@jidanni.org> From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:30:17 +0800 Message-ID: <87ve0iqzx2.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 I was told to report this in a separate message. OK, here goes: j> P.S., (apropos (quote ("mesg")) nil) shows j> In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable, j> and type RET to get full documentation. j> mesg j> nomesg j> But RET does nothing. Actually the problem is bigger: (apropos (quote ("a")) nil) gives: If moving the mouse over text changes the text's color, you can click mouse-2 (second button from right) on that text to get more information. In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable, and type RET to get full documentation. attribution &allow-other-keys &aux &optional *random-state* Variable: (not documented) --args--temp-- --category--temp--... And indeed all make some yellow when the mouse moves over them here in X windows (which is bad usability, making one move the mouse over something to tell what it will do), but only the ones marked "variable" etc. will show anything when clicked. Indeed, the impression is just a jumble of stuff found with UNIX stings(1), with only a small percent useful in that one can learn what they are about. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Mon Jun 9 19:17:09 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Jun 2008 02:17:09 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5A2H5dk006257 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:17:06 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5tQ0-0006nt-QC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5tPy-0006kq-Bw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48264 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5tPy-0006kn-7f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:02 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:38695 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5tPx-00071I-MT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMCAJB0TUjO+ISodGdsb2JhbACBW5A0ASeeCA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,615,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="22346491" Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 22:17:00 -0400 Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.132.168]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id QIB38200; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:00 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D188F8265; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:16:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 379@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#379: apropos mostly a rummage heap Message-ID: References: <87bq2bi8v7.fsf@jidanni.org> <87ve0iqzx2.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:16:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ve0iqzx2.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:30:17 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > Actually the problem is bigger: (apropos (quote ("a")) nil) gives: > If moving the mouse over text changes the text's color, you can click > mouse-2 (second button from right) on that text to get more information. > In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable, > and type RET to get full documentation. > attribution > &allow-other-keys > &aux > &optional Can't reproduce that. Neither with the CVS trunk, nor with Emacs-22.2, nor Emacs-21.4. 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