GNU bug report logs - #37889
[PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 14:42:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Fixed in version 27.1

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

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Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 16:41:22 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
There are a few references in various doc strings and comments which I
think will confuse users and make maintaining Emacs harder for no
gain.

The attached patch removes most of them.  Any objections to any of this?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
[0001-Remove-obsolete-doc-references-to-XEmacs.patch (application/octet-stream, attachment)]

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bug#37889; Package emacs. (Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:57:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37889: [PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 21:56:01 +0300
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 16:41:22 +0200
> 
> There are a few references in various doc strings and comments which I
> think will confuse users and make maintaining Emacs harder for no
> gain.
> 
> The attached patch removes most of them.  Any objections to any of this?

I object to the likes of this:

> --- a/doc/misc/pcl-cvs.texi
> +++ b/doc/misc/pcl-cvs.texi
> @@ -185,12 +185,6 @@ Contributors
>  Linus Tolke contributed useful comments
>  on both the functionality and the documentation.
>  
> -@item
> -@c jwz@@jwz.com
> -Jamie Zawinski contributed
> -@file{pcl-cvs-lucid.el}, which was later renamed to
> -@file{pcl-cvs-xemacs.el}.
> -
>  @item
>  Leif Lonnblad contributed RCVS support (since superseded by the new
>  remote CVS support).
> @@ -215,9 +209,8 @@ Contributors
>  
>  @item
>  @c greg.klanderman@@alum.mit.edu
> -Greg Klanderman implemented
> -toggling of marked files, setting of CVS command flags via prefix
> -arguments, updated the XEmacs support, updated the manual, and fixed
> +Greg Klanderman implemented toggling of marked files, setting of CVS
> +command flags via prefix arguments, updated the manual, and fixed
>  numerous bugs.

To me, this is akin to rewriting history: those people contributed to
the development in the past, and we should keep the attributions out
of respect for their work.

I have no problem with other changes you proposed.

Thanks.




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Message #11 received at 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37889: [PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:16:10 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> > The attached patch removes most of them.  Any objections to any of this?
>
> I object to the likes of this:
[...]
> To me, this is akin to rewriting history: those people contributed to
> the development in the past, and we should keep the attributions out
> of respect for their work.

I mostly thought it was confusing to talk about contributions to
another text editor in our source code, but perhaps the patch was a
bit too enthusiastic.  I obviously agree that we should respect their
work, so I'll just take that part out.

> I have no problem with other changes you proposed.

Thanks for the review.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas




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Message #14 received at 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37889: [PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:38:14 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
I've attached a new version of the patch here, in case anyone has any
further comments.  Otherwise, I intend to commit this in a couple of
days.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
[0001-Remove-obsolete-doc-references-to-XEmacs-Bug-37899.patch (application/octet-stream, attachment)]

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Message #17 received at 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37889: [PATCH] Remove obsolete doc references to XEmacs
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:56:27 +0100
close 37889 27.1
quit

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:
> I've attached a new version of the patch here, in case anyone has any
> further comments.  Otherwise, I intend to commit this in a couple of
> days.

Now pushed to master as commit c515d4eeb2.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas




bug marked as fixed in version 27.1, send any further explanations to 37889 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:57:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:24:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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