From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:12:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#37790 <37790@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#37790 <37790@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: MANPATH missing from non-default profile Reply-To: bug#37790 <37790@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 04:12:37 +0000 retitle 37790 MANPATH missing from non-default profile reassign 37790 guix submitter 37790 Pierre Neidhardt severity 37790 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 08:58:20 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2019 12:58:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL5MC-0003gu-1X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:58:20 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL5MA-0003gm-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:58:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59021) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iL5M9-0005A3-4y for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:58:18 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL5M6-00062i-JZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:58:15 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:38321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL5M6-000629-DY for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:58:14 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 92.169.151.76 Received: from bababa (lfbn-1-4156-76.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.169.151.76]) (Authenticated sender: pierre@atlas.engineer) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B42171BF210 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:58:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: MANPATH missing from non-default profile Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 14:58:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.201 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable `man` fails to find man pages from non-default profiles. Indeed, MANPATH is set in /etc/profile to export MANPATH=3D\ $HOME/.guix-profile/share/man\ :/run/current-system/profile/share/man I believe that each profile should set MANPATH in their own etc/profile. Thoughts? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl2oZWIACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH86LAf/c+9M2AwQxqoErrqOnuHUAz6F4yeNf1z0BMHpBM4XSYlboQID2HePf4p2 vbhdzf6z3mGczB2Wzns/yKDIk4//TclNhupdEu24UzxdL/MnlLQoR37rhW8VeQKQ 5I1afotM2Ro1HZvt0S1JNa0lbFh8aw8hTWgfeDDyxR2UFuSSn4MNU5JJkA7d3RD+ D8CU/UUEA1WqiPPir8HMVtHgtwGVrTaq0kkOZ/1n3PWBtfnSNtMJpUZTtwOvqnA6 HMSvGHNApPGtrjs2kzQsptHbRpfgupSfuvNe92tMFDQKr7vogmANRqmq0pOVeGSI CJ72LGwMCoUY7vpSrGdHESP3NmqeYQ== =pZZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 10:55:03 2019 Received: (at 37790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2019 14:55:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7B8-000769-V0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:55:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7B5-00075a-AY for 37790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:55:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38901) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7B0-00028V-3s; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:54:54 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=44498 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7Az-0002c5-GU; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:54:54 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:54:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Thu, 17 Oct 2019 14:58:10 +0200") Message-ID: <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: 37790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > `man` fails to find man pages from non-default profiles. > Indeed, MANPATH is set in /etc/profile to > > export MANPATH=3D\ > $HOME/.guix-profile/share/man\ > :/run/current-system/profile/share/man > > I believe that each profile should set MANPATH in their own etc/profile. As usual, =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 is only defined when =E2=80=98man-db=E2= =80=99 is also present in the profile, since =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Cbelongs=E2=80=9D to =E2= =80=98man-db=E2=80=99. HTH! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 11:11:52 2019 Received: (at 37790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2019 15:11:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7RQ-0007Yh-Jk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:11:52 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:51241) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL7RO-0007YW-2c for 37790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:11:51 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 92.169.151.76 Received: from bababa (lfbn-1-4156-76.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.169.151.76]) (Authenticated sender: pierre@atlas.engineer) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D1721BF208; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:11:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile In-Reply-To: <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:11:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: 37790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > As usual, =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 is only defined when =E2=80=98man-db= =E2=80=99 is also present in the > profile, since =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Cbelongs=E2=80=9D to =E2= =80=98man-db=E2=80=99. Indeed, but I'm suggesting we add an exception for the sake of convenience and consistency: =2D The default profile ~/.guix-profile is added, man-db or not. =2D It's seems a bit unfortunate that all my profiles need to have man-db in it. What do you think? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl2ohLMACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH9UPQf9HrkgYV4eEibLJaUjz6nv1DccOqkFwaFa278GLVnrx4huJsn9ev2id0qP MbdajCWlaXlTyGQHTM6N0jxMwoYiaca57gfK4c86ejryB2YR8/0o4CDHDlDdWbWx +hvzfQ5ntbDmXoYdCSpVZ2T3/m9TzxNbstwIOLFFXfYOcVSDh34G3vPkAqRKEExy pbR5kNbCWeaaHoEs//BLjxkA2tDYqsdo6QMfbyCfWSKsjm7GPG/I+ZnczLJLxFDz BN1RyZEXBrO5/Z0xKAi1DVTsa7/6H66LOwlc9WivLCgqZZ5dpfaM+fJIQdM6FGR/ 456UUJTebycWJhcHRbHr9jM60gXHlA== =2fEB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 12:18:00 2019 Received: (at 37790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2019 16:18:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL8TQ-00011V-EA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:18:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56321) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL8TO-00011G-PT for 37790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:17:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40902) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL8TJ-00038Q-El; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:17:53 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=44744 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iL8TI-00038z-GD; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:17:52 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 26 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:17:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:11:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87eezbny6r.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: 37790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Pierre Neidhardt skribis: >> As usual, =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 is only defined when =E2=80=98man-db= =E2=80=99 is also present in the >> profile, since =E2=80=98MANPATH=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Cbelongs=E2=80=9D to = =E2=80=98man-db=E2=80=99. > > Indeed, but I'm suggesting we add an exception for the sake of > convenience and consistency: I agree it=E2=80=99s inconvenient, but how would you add an exception? Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 18 04:20:33 2019 Received: (at 37790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2019 08:20:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLNUv-00045Q-71 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:20:33 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:53891) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLNUs-00045F-S5 for 37790@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:20:31 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 92.169.151.76 Received: from bababa (lfbn-1-4156-76.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.169.151.76]) (Authenticated sender: pierre@atlas.engineer) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2949F1BF21A; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 08:20:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile In-Reply-To: <87eezbny6r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87eezbny6r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:20:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87wod2lb1x.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: 37790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > I agree it=E2=80=99s inconvenient, but how would you add an exception? I'm not too sure how Guix works here, but what about when building the profile, systematically populating etc/profile with MANPATH=3D...? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl2pdcoACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH8+zgf/T6YpPKCdmNIeBE1vw5dVHWVNtcIGQsWkA4pk5uGhQcRqh7EMzqfh/vog skSZxWV8cNAvJRxuiFAoxJ+nRzgPKH0YcNDfYg5kMfhXTq5KOhd5dOFi72w09cwd F2qaTvTaQ+k+UWHNNaQH99czRAH1rOq29ygM3y8Ah4FNzCXGIbKvazVrffJ5eZrD tON+qUx0p5RtxiJ+D/VqS6Vc0EEtgWlpEzPZ0tKd3MAROG9qKKQJcyCg+fCn14Rx hBBY+AQ/kgH+bHin5TVV1qQtGVoxNjunq/xujbOqrnP6YseTWI+4gIuULiA3e5Ld 3qwzAW200vfHr9Am0tv+qFDNwwgmOw== =i9Q5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 24 07:30:31 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2021 11:30:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mebhu-0001xB-Sm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: tags 37790 notabug thanks Hi, Pierre Neidhardt writes: Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (maxim.cournoyer[at]gmail.com) 1.6 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: ambrevar.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.222.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.222.175 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790-close Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 37790-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) tags 37790 notabug thanks Hi, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> I agree it=E2=80=99s inconvenient, but how would you add an exception? > > I'm not too sure how Guix works here, but what about when building the > profile, systematically populating etc/profile with MANPATH=3D...? I don't think special casing ~/.guix-profile like this, polluting other profiles is a good idea. I'm closing this 2+ years old bug. Thank you, Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 03 03:33:09 2022 Received: (at 37790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2022 08:33:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41386 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPgtY-000078-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 03:33:09 -0500 Received: from mail-il1-f180.google.com ([209.85.166.180]:44926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPgtY-00006u-77; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 03:33:08 -0500 Received: by mail-il1-f180.google.com with SMTP id 9so3430807ily.11; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 00:33:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wM07rJHio0aFrPwpzkoEj/SxZ20bBCE1PYuXZ7t3+dY=; b=evSz3hRWH1PgbfRw1Gx0UQYmTpdt1jEHEUqUuZLs37cvmDQWxzCxbLHDqIrHxR12mm soiBXgTm1cfjqVlTC9/4e2PfW2DxubqnhVB6Vkw6JCwNW2jHVaBUXWqAW3GM3v/7JSTl /Iqjz74z6eDH4CSfXA7Pvubn2S7Iqa9pcHVpnj8psXYm4SuvrkxY0hFWJa0HWYaQYr6y gvlgkL5HQr/RiQvgqd6AOEdQQAaDAX28/mvdb4X7o7qwfbJCe9izXnYyCB+q4hvxTBm6 Hm5r4AjcYmuSJroNee4/PE8kFB3NmwWM1iZGZ3IbhKie1VEXfvvr5LhdVF/7Ya6s4v0u 3w3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wM07rJHio0aFrPwpzkoEj/SxZ20bBCE1PYuXZ7t3+dY=; b=rBTuTmsyKEZW+V58028qFp404iAcfAKWqH/N9cZHtsziXooPNpgktVdS+x8UDpi+9G 14Gk5qVMup69DpiUExIAT8Kj9xZ1pNlrE4TztrnnOv/bRvB7baqzmp8mPQi2f6j3Doxm GNT0bBwxqf65fkelX6F59ci+q9J6fh+84xAfb8qxQbO+NjPonjwq+vOmC7Q/tQ3kAlvH WUv7zPPPKxMi2MgBAspDYu4JHsPaivj+NmYl0GvFS36xSDcq/YORg9cGzHWGNEZc4a2A JJbkHEjOHov0gQ/zO1Yv6PPhWC2d6a/4L04DEUFqljagWbFXRiaySVKXLM5nqwKw1Oaz pcAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533fDkr3s9bzZp/jWReh0TlO2pgPYzKbqN9nq/npEK3Vglc/fygI SYR+pKcpPY0oDcpAJT6sl3ECoPNVy4/yDrLRK9I/CiD/tB8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyzpD/c2iJxbJVz5MT0ohfrgMDbW8YTq4V/uJLENVpKAhFhD8xw6xoQFSNQ6lR9VvZBpgzUoDJpZ25CzXPwJs= X-Received: by 2002:a92:a30d:0:b0:2c2:fde0:47cf with SMTP id a13-20020a92a30d000000b002c2fde047cfmr14007587ili.156.1646296382513; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 00:33:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87eezbny6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87wod2lb1x.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y21rimdg.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87y21rimdg.fsf@gmail.com> From: zimoun Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 09:32:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile To: 37790@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer , Pierre Neidhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: 37790-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Maxim, On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 07:26, Maxim Cournoyer wr= ote: > tags 37790 notabug >From my understanding, it is a "bug" as explained here: 1: Or at least an inconvenient behaviour. :-) > >> I agree it=E2=80=99s inconvenient, but how would you add an exception? > > > > I'm not too sure how Guix works here, but what about when building the > > profile, systematically populating etc/profile with MANPATH=3D...? > > I don't think special casing ~/.guix-profile like this, polluting other > profiles is a good idea. It appears to me the contrary, no? That ~/.guix-profile is special here. Well, using a multi-profiles style management, it appears to me adequate to install "man" (or man-db) once, i.e., in one profile say ~/.cache/guix/profiles/utilities, and then install other packages, say git, in another profile, say ~/, .cache/guix/profiles/tools, etc. With the current design, each profile other than ~/.guix-profile requires 'man-db' which seems unfortunate, non? 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[66.158.141.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ay35-20020a05620a17a300b00648cc8356e2sm1078512qkb.9.2022.03.03.06.04.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 03 Mar 2022 06:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: zimoun Subject: Re: bug#37790: MANPATH missing from non-default profile References: <87mudzr0kd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87v9sno210.fsf@gnu.org> <87eezbmmoc.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87eezbny6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87wod2lb1x.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87y21rimdg.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:04:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: (zimoun's message of "Thu, 3 Mar 2022 09:32:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87lexri12v.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37790 Cc: Pierre Neidhardt , 37790-close@debbugs.gnu.org, 37790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Simon, zimoun writes: > Hi Maxim, > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 07:26, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > >> tags 37790 notabug > > From my understanding, it is a "bug" as explained here: > > 1: > > Or at least an inconvenient behaviour. :-) Sorry, I fail to see where is the bug :-). This is our the search-path specifications have always worked; they work per profile and are attached to the application acting as the "consumer" of the environment variable it sets. If we want to work on improving this we already have the following issues opened awaiting work: 20255 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile. and somewhat related: 22138 Search paths of dependencies are not honored Thanks, Maxim From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:12:37 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator