From unknown Thu Jun 19 13:59:08 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#37688 <37688@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#37688 <37688@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: "guix system reconfigure" doesn't work with LC_ALL=C - and locale problems Reply-To: bug#37688 <37688@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 20:59:08 +0000 retitle 37688 "guix system reconfigure" doesn't work with LC_ALL=3DC - and = locale problems reassign 37688 guix submitter 37688 Danny Milosavljevic severity 37688 normal tag 37688 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 09 18:19:07 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2019 22:19:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKIV-00066N-GY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:19:07 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34433) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKIT-00066F-Tk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:19:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKIS-0007uM-Gm for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:19:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKIR-0001ts-2o for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:51610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKIQ-0001sv-SY for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:19:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (77.116.67.42.wireless.dyn.drei.com [77.116.67.42]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E6873362648 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:18:56 +0200 From: Danny Milosavljevic To: Subject: "guix system reconfigure" doesn't work with LC_ALL=C - and locale problems Message-ID: <20191010001856.5b8e7be1@scratchpost.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/F/9YYetRIu.tlSf=ZZ06Mv="; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 85.13.145.193 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --Sig_/F/9YYetRIu.tlSf=ZZ06Mv= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because of the locale problems every time there is a merge, I've tried to u= pgrade as follows: sudo -i LC_ALL=3DC guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/532l4zja85y9c69i0l0bwnsxx= 98gpzdw-nss-certs-3.45... nss-certs-3.45 135KiB = 104.5MiB/s 00:00 [######## ] 47.4%Backtrace: 3 (apply-smob/1 #) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 705:2 2 (call-with-prompt _ _ #) In ice-9/eval.scm: 619:8 1 (_ #(#(#))) In guix/ui.scm: 1692:12 0 (run-guix-command _ . _) guix/ui.scm:1692:12: In procedure run-guix-command: Throw to key `encoding-error' with args `("scm_to_stringn" "cannot convert = wide string to output locale" 84 #f #f)'. Can we please do something about these encoding problems once and for all? Most have standardized on UTF-8 in like 2000, so why does this keep happeni= ng? Also, what is it that changes the locale database format so fundamentally e= ach and every time that it can't be used any more? Human culture doesn't chang= e that quickly :P The reason I set LC_ALL=3DC is because with my usual language setting I can= not see where the log file is when a build failure occurs: >Das Erstellungsprotokoll kann unter =C3=A2 eingesehen werden. ^ You got this E-Mail right. That's w= hat it said. That is very bad usability. If there's an official way to make these upgrades not break (automatically = update in a cron job, say), is it documented in the manual how to do that? On the other hand: $ LC_ALL=3Dde_AT.utf8 guix package -u . # With broken locales. [...] >Das Erstellungsprotokoll kann unter =C3=A2 eingesehen werden. ^ You got this E-Mail right. That's w= hat it said. $ LC_ALL=3DC guix package -u . # With broken locales. [...] View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/3y/jqbvjchd344qwg62x0gbj95dx0vfk9-sim= ple-scan-3.24.1.drv.bz2'. There it works. Furthermore, I cannot log in on the Linux console. It doesn't ask for the password and doesn't let me log in either. (I wanted to see whether the text console does the same--well, I guess we won't know) --Sig_/F/9YYetRIu.tlSf=ZZ06Mv= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAl2eXNAACgkQ5xo1VCww uqWCXwf8CaOPdIH+JP21z5zsYimXTzQ7ONvj0+VbCChGHz/ZqZD2i15DPh5U2nGY swgCtgQjIWxw0GUrh4aEXuKE6hirfatFsF/MDi3chLTMF1ah4/3dDvO3x9z85fhl IB/0bw6FGoCSCbiEOZegLk382be3prxjwIrcxc8ZyDcDeOjWjGj0q5tXKI7ncba/ Z9jWLj/LPKr48yLZRbn3BRZ5+MGvTR5zfRehuK+d+f0gj25Xnm17BIbQBVRGmj+V TVVApwkBO6hLXWQwVaR3MFgCGwBqJ2bw+2b0Mxw+WNRNRmoqLpIJkEAvO89Iu6XN 7vOkw2ASizoUXsfU4gh5tHMAhtJlVA== =zlQ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/F/9YYetRIu.tlSf=ZZ06Mv=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 09 18:25:04 2019 Received: (at 37688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2019 22:25:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKOF-0006Gf-OX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:25:04 -0400 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:43332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKOD-0006GC-6p for 37688@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:25:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (77.116.67.42.wireless.dyn.drei.com [77.116.67.42]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2EFC336A1D7 for <37688@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:24:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:24:52 +0200 From: Danny Milosavljevic To: 37688@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#37688: "guix system reconfigure" doesn't work with LC_ALL=C - and locale problems Message-ID: <20191010002452.55c09ac5@scratchpost.org> In-Reply-To: <20191010001856.5b8e7be1@scratchpost.org> References: <20191010001856.5b8e7be1@scratchpost.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/eqs4UWtHhLPbpN8NIQn=WwS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37688 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --Sig_/eqs4UWtHhLPbpN8NIQn=WwS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After retrying "reconfigure" a few more times, it did work. Now I rebooted= and now I can also log into the Linux console again. Locale problems seem to be gone away--for now. Note that I report this stuff because it's a general problem all our users = see (and probably never report--they just delete Guix instead). --Sig_/eqs4UWtHhLPbpN8NIQn=WwS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAl2eXjQACgkQ5xo1VCww uqVGkgf/aR+/J02xkMakCtnbvnmTSVjTefMW7ZzCj9/6i2Nz5F7PUxGQ7jrURnDp 6RVr2HbGM38x+iV+xGP1AVIsyLyjMh1Cl4+zT7TP5qpq0MCMsJnG9uLgeD0ogBoP cjKq0Pq37t9KPUglX2H4s4tHWMTp3G5IHvzttUSPUOM+03Jrx9TBrGNo0B6l/IX/ FELy+SP+H42rXOKIA5TeqCfDg+MCrlh5dRUO4AvGQpadOVPvIL4M5Td0S4yEgBK+ HW5MGwbeivEX/2xs4mPq16/41/vsetINO8wr55ZHI9ht7D+s0TMyDfmZ01eFZFZs r6H55phJED6qG9AvnnUWayUJLQtI2g== =3nDW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/eqs4UWtHhLPbpN8NIQn=WwS-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 10 10:03:47 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2019 14:03:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIZ2h-0007Ol-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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