From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 22 12:52:21 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2019 16:52:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC55w-0005jl-2i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:52:21 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41031) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC55t-0005jc-Rw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iC55s-0002Mo-4z for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:52:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM, SPOOFED_FREEMAIL,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iC55q-0006rz-Sp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:52:15 -0400 Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl ([217.74.65.155]:39612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iC55q-0006ov-B8 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:52:14 -0400 X-Interia-R: Interia X-Interia-R-IP: 89.64.26.126 X-Interia-R-Helo: Received: from localhost (89-64-26-126.dynamic.chello.pl [89.64.26.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:52:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:52:06 +0200 From: Jan Wielkiewicz To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: Guix fails to build libreoffice Message-ID: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Interia-Antivirus: OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1569171129; bh=xlWy8b9xM4+mc3LflGli7+p7dZELIDME0pJX3Xc/f3s=; h=X-Interia-R:X-Interia-R-IP:X-Interia-R-Helo:Date:From:To:Subject: Message-ID:X-Mailer:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Interia-Antivirus; b=ou5fBrt0JKUGxVQAAQLbnjSB0+8DzhsozPoh+UyEpsGvg5n12QZKaKfbRkNcSRAC+ D1PDP8ZM7JOQwJ5cKnSGKrmtfkm7pKsfW3drfTi313TyYhwYsA6n+0Ux46d5AE2X53 fxFjVV2mZ/QVr95OJzW7bL3GsVpk2eRyrwvptcww= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 217.74.65.155 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Hi everyone! I've recently tried to reconfigure my system, but after about 3 hours of building libreoffice, the system froze for 2 hours and then guix threw: - 'build' phasebuilder for `/gnu/store/ndibmh084iqmhv1ldv3fr3380mfk6qzg-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv' failed with exit code 1 build of /gnu/store/ndibmh084iqmhv1ldv3fr3380mfk6qzg-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv failed View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/nd/ibmh084iqmhv1ldv3fr3380mfk6qzg-libreoffice-6.1.5.2= .drv.bz2'. guix system: error: build of `/gnu/store/ndibmh084iqmhv1ldv3fr3380mfk6qzg-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv' failed My system is an old ThinkPad with 2GB of RAM and Intel Centrino Duo processor, but I'm unsure if this was the cause of the build failing. I saw some other packages have similar problems like, if my memory is correct, the support for ARM have been removed from webkit-qt. I'm not sure if removing support for an achitecture is the right solution here - wouldn't it be better if Guix checked if the system is powerful enough to handle building certain packages? Here's the part of the log where it fails: [build CXX] sc/source/core/data/colcontainer.cxx [build CXX] sc/source/core/data/column.cxx [build CXX] sc/source/core/data/column2.cxx [build CXX] sc/source/core/data/column3.cxx g++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. make[1]: *** [/tmp/guix-build-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv-0/libreoffice-6.1.5.2/solenv/gbuil= d/LinkTarget.mk:293: /tmp/guix-build-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv-0/libreoffice-= 6.1.5.2/workdir/CxxObject/sc/source/core/data/column2.o] Error 4 make[1]: *** Deleting file '/tmp/guix-build-libreoffice-6.1.5.2.drv-0/libreoffice-6.1.5.2/workdir/CxxO= bject/sc/source/core/data/column2.o' make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... make: *** [Makefile:286: build] Error 2 Backtrace: 4 (primitive-load "/gnu/store/8d49s04zpk9frpz9isawr8k4fma=E2=80= =A6") In ice-9/eval.scm: 191:35 3 (_ _) In srfi/srfi-1.scm: 863:16 2 (every1 # =E2=80=A6) In /gnu/store/0npakqh7q9kfik8y0cc0vjqqpvnyv2h1-module-import/guix/build/gnu= -build-system.scm: 799:28 1 (_ _) In /gnu/store/0npakqh7q9kfik8y0cc0vjqqpvnyv2h1-module-import/guix/build/uti= ls.scm: 616:6 0 (invoke _ . _) /gnu/store/0npakqh7q9kfik8y0cc0vjqqpvnyv2h1-module-import/guix/build/utils.= scm:616:6: In procedure invoke: Throw to key `srfi-34' with args `(#)'. --- Jan Wielkiewicz From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 22 13:46:00 2019 Received: (at 37482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2019 17:46:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34485 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC5vr-0008B0-UL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:46:00 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:55192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC5vo-00086G-G5 for 37482@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:45:58 -0400 Received: by tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d7d76b21; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 17:45:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=tobias.gr; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=2018; i=me@tobias.gr; bh=cE/04Xb0dpWqQNxRAr/Qjs SoQlRLzI+1qhwmoJ2oSjs=; b=TkOvrX+gk15XJSSk1qnJcAA//kKEdxk08KkE51 Bv3PzJh7Wlhbi7e2dvZQ/6DdYI9UtM4P/c35QVbovD2wmokWg2HFEZpDpxw+z/fq WNTNmRASOZ6gGdgqEUKIHFncbh4v16sR7XEX4K6BnL0hB/SOQIMmB1CVbWJMylGG AIjXF3iHtA6MSyASLV/SapFIKqZU8PH6COjb9y+WGQOuxvP9eOBUHVkZfL4EzgAI +IVz5GPCLig/LUJOlO9JZJqZLdH3QXIMR6qE2TicADMnBC7F9X1cbiQbi2l1E+vH AsZsZg+mg/5XM4fs+sugqKWdlfY/Q6RDXhaoY+rwe/nKPDnw== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 81e67fc9 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sun, 22 Sep 2019 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: 37482@debbugs.gnu.org, Jan Wielkiewicz Subject: Re: bug#37482: Guix fails to build libreoffice References: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> In-reply-to: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 19:45:52 +0200 Message-ID: <8736gorzqn.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37482 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jan, Thanks for the report, and sorry you had to learn this the hard=20 way. Jan Wielkiewicz =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > I've recently tried to reconfigure my system, but after about 3=20 > hours > of building libreoffice, the system froze for 2 hours and then=20 > guix > threw: [=E2=80=A6] > g++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus) > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. This message and the freezing above is a tell-tale sign of OOM=20 (out-of-memory). If you check your dmesg or /var/log/messages at=20 that time, I'm almost certain you'll see the OOM killer plot its=20 dastardly deeds. > My system is an old ThinkPad with 2GB of RAM and Intel Centrino=20 > Duo > processor, but I'm unsure if this was the cause of the build=20 > failing. You may be sure. 2 GiB of RAM is simply not enough to build many packages these=20 days. That's the world we live in. There's nothing Guix can do=20 to change that. You can restrict the number of parallel builds and jobs by=20 respectively passing --max-jobs=3D1 and --cores=3D1 to the daemon.=20 You can make this permanent by setting (extra-options =E2=80=A6) in your=20 system configuration. Even then, some complex executables will simply fail to link with=20 so little RAM. > I saw some other packages have similar problems like, if my=20 > memory is > correct, the support for ARM have been removed from webkit-qt. I don't see how this is related to running out of RAM. If=20 webkit-qt is broken on ARM that's unfortunate, but it's better to=20 mark it as such than failing to build it on 100% of ARM systems. Your issue is different: the exact same libreoffice might have=20 built fine if you had 4 GiB of RAM, or 3, or 5, or 2 with swap,=20 but only if your weren't also running any (Guix or other) builds=20 at the time, or watching a movie, or had the room thermostat=20 turned up, or use Gnome 3, all beneath a gibbous moon. All these=20 things, and many more, will cause builds to fail or succeed=20 =E2=80=98randomly=E2=80=99. The only way to know is to try. > I'm not sure if removing support for an achitecture is the right > solution here - wouldn't it be better if Guix checked if the=20 > system is > powerful enough to handle building certain packages? I personally think the annoyances of =E2=80=98helpful=E2=80=99 warnings=20 (=3Dextremely inaccurate guesses) would far outweigh any purported=20 benefit. 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If you check your dmesg or /var/log/messages at > that time, I'm almost certain you'll see the OOM killer plot its > dastardly deeds. > > > My system is an old ThinkPad with 2GB of RAM and Intel Centrino > > Duo > > processor, but I'm unsure if this was the cause of the build > > failing. > > You may be sure. > > 2 GiB of RAM is simply not enough to build many packages these > days. That's the world we live in. There's nothing Guix can do > to change that. > > You can restrict the number of parallel builds and jobs by > respectively passing --max-jobs=1 and --cores=1 to the daemon. > You can make this permanent by setting (extra-options …) in your > system configuration. > > Even then, some complex executables will simply fail to link with > so little RAM. You can get around too little RAM by using swap, correct? Partition ~8GB as swap and add (swap-devices) in the configuration. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 22 14:41:30 2019 Received: (at 37482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2019 18:41:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC6na-0002Sj-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 14:41:30 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:56830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iC6nX-0002SX-Nj for 37482@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 14:41:28 -0400 Received: by tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 101cfd5e; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:41:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=tobias.gr; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=2018; i=me@tobias.gr; bh=JDm+nW0yzLMmujynKJqwAJ 34el30J4qhIPyk/OQZS3M=; b=AgR9Yy/J3alP5+nr0ABPjuBTy3iN9VxZCZUqLT MLMR5Fd0puFpTOllgyHxENsyYhhksQIaDMJvIOSmpTjtkjjzyZmFszs7x8TCPLa1 vsmRcSACeAGLp7rYer/KV8Ohhjh7HKCdGKvUamrM4U4biAd9LJeR5W+KWKxSTnPf 7/YyTuq43aE+eKADKuo0ISEl6wlG41S0UCHCNj/Kf1vqmdbNjUnPZE1eL8wGypB5 9ZM1tabi6WWJAtE/G79rhqzJPz/PN+yh1J2FzpaXKAuvmshW4ev7xa/tByIYsI0L 6rbyT5VG5X5gyiTFLC0rwHIN+S+pPiIRGqL26+YM7lokCI2A== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ea9ca17d (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:41:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: Jesse Gibbons Subject: Re: bug#37482: Guix fails to build libreoffice References: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> <8736gorzqn.fsf@nckx> In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 20:41:22 +0200 Message-ID: <871rw8rx65.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37482 Cc: 37482@debbugs.gnu.org, Jan Wielkiewicz X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jesse Gibbons =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> Even then, some complex executables will simply fail to link=20 >> with=20 >> so little RAM. > > You can get around too little RAM by using swap, correct?=20 > Partition ~8GB as > swap and add (swap-devices) in the configuration. Sure, I think I suggested that (I was serious about Gnome, too!).=20 People tend to underestimate just how slow swap is by several=20 orders of magnitude, though. Not sure about LibreOffice, but I doubt you'll have much luck=20 building, say, Chromium with 2 GiB of physical RAM, with or=20 without swap =E2=80=94 but I admit I haven't been crazy enough to try :-) Another hack you can try is enabling 50% zstd zswap, but with 2=20 GiB of RAM and such an old CPU that too is far out in diminishing=20 returns territory. It could just crash your kernel. 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Or just how quickly it can destroy an SSD. 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That's the world we live in. There's nothing Guix can do=20 > to change that. Sad, guess I have to buy more RAM. > You can restrict the number of parallel builds and jobs by=20 > respectively passing --max-jobs=3D1 and --cores=3D1 to the daemon.=20 > You can make this permanent by setting (extra-options =E2=80=A6) in your= =20 > system configuration. Cool, didn't know about this option. > Even then, some complex executables will simply fail to link with=20 > so little RAM. >=20 > Your issue is different: the exact same libreoffice might have=20 > built fine if you had 4 GiB of RAM, or 3, or 5, or 2 with swap,=20 > but only if your weren't also running any (Guix or other) builds=20 > at the time, or watching a movie, or had the room thermostat=20 > turned up, or use Gnome 3, all beneath a gibbous moon. All these=20 > things, and many more, will cause builds to fail or succeed=20 > =E2=80=98randomly=E2=80=99. I actually have a 10GB sized swap file created on an SSD and defined in the config.scm, but it didn't help. I'm also using Mate, but I can try without any DE. The only two things running in the background were Mate, mate terminal, Guix and %desktop-services. > I personally think the annoyances of =E2=80=98helpful=E2=80=99 warnings=20 > (=3Dextremely inaccurate guesses) would far outweigh any purported=20 > benefit. >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > T G-R Is there a way to skip building libreoffice, if the substitute isn't available? >Or just how quickly it can destroy an SSD. Even more fun... Waiting for a powerful libre computer from from the ground, because running on old ThinkPads forever isn't the right solution. Thanks for explanations and help, Jan Wielkiewicz From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 26 16:04:55 2019 Received: (at 37482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2019 20:04:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDa0V-0007Qt-Fl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:04:55 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:48664) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDa0T-0007Qk-Dg for 37482@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:04:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FE28BD22; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uq4OENOMsQe7; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ribbon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 903EC8BB6C; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:51 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Jan Subject: Re: bug#37482: Guix fails to build libreoffice References: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> <8736gorzqn.fsf@nckx> <20190923024535.39385299@kompiuter> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190923024535.39385299@kompiuter> (Jan's message of "Mon, 23 Sep 2019 02:45:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2yalt7h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37482 Cc: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , 37482@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello, Jan skribis: > Is there a way to skip building libreoffice, if the substitute isn't > available? There=E2=80=99s no way to skip it. However, there are a couple of tricks: =E2=80=A2 The =E2=80=98--dry-run=E2=80=99 option always shows what would = be built or downloaded, so you can run, say, =E2=80=98guix upgrade --dry-run=E2=80= =99 and see if libreoffice is among the things that would be built. =E2=80=A2 You can do =E2=80=98guix package -u . --do-not-upgrade=3Dlibreo= ffice=E2=80=99 to upgrade everything but packages whose name contains =E2=80=9Clibreoffic= e=E2=80=9D. HTH! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 26 16:05:17 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2019 20:05:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45314 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDa0q-0007S9-QO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:05:17 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:48690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDa0o-0007Rz-JQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:05:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117D08BCEB for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:05:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O3MBbBCduC9F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ribbon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E4888BD22 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:05:12 +0200 Message-Id: <87wodult6v.fsf@gnu.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: control message for bug #37482 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) tags 37482 notabug close 37482 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 27 14:03:16 2019 Received: (at 37482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2019 18:03:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDuaK-0004zS-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:03:16 -0400 Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl ([217.74.65.155]:33827) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iDuaH-0004z3-Cq for 37482@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:03:14 -0400 X-Interia-R: Interia X-Interia-R-IP: 89.64.26.126 X-Interia-R-Helo: Received: from kompiuter (89-64-26-126.dynamic.chello.pl [89.64.26.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:03:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:02:54 +0200 From: Jan To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?= Subject: Re: bug#37482: Guix fails to build libreoffice Message-ID: <20190927200254.50801048@kompiuter> In-Reply-To: <87y2yalt7h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> <8736gorzqn.fsf@nckx> <20190923024535.39385299@kompiuter> <87y2yalt7h.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Interia-Antivirus: OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1569607385; bh=dJTCP2WzXHi7B4OdDfniYkI/nWxhqJ9pKxgHe4hbwWc=; h=X-Interia-R:X-Interia-R-IP:X-Interia-R-Helo:Date:From:To:Cc: Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Interia-Antivirus; b=aqOCxvvV26W0m+yigVogHxNiwB8yeREPBMq7bIP8DkgzyeYLGipPtAIEw6uP2jVRh UC1g2gYwNcucYOX13aU1xYjfN0SxbTf1a5WgW/RFhDgbNjj8lCXPjN7Cmf2FOoxqvx deHThSMyG6cccFdQ9xHsl1iy9Wt3zKiKDokF2LOc= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37482 Cc: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , 37482@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:50 +0200 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > There=E2=80=99s no way to skip it. However, there are a couple of tricks: What about adding an option to only download substitutes for older devices? I saw someone talking about such feature on the mailing list, don't know where exactly though. > =E2=80=A2 The =E2=80=98--dry-run=E2=80=99 option always shows what woul= d be built or > downloaded, so you can run, say, =E2=80=98guix upgrade --dry-run=E2= =80=99 and see > if libreoffice is among the things that would be built. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 You can do =E2=80=98guix package -u . --do-not-upgrade=3Dlibr= eoffice=E2=80=99 to > upgrade everything but packages whose name contains =E2=80=9Clibreoff= ice=E2=80=9D. Will use these options next time, thanks for the info. Jan Wielkiewicz From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 28 05:31:07 2019 Received: (at 37482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2019 09:31:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iE94F-0007NH-C8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 05:31:07 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:56030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iE94E-0007N9-44 for 37482@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 05:31:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DC48E4FF; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:31:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73s8bfld3Gp4; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:31:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ribbon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 360AE8E4AF; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:31:03 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Jan Subject: Re: bug#37482: Guix fails to build libreoffice References: <20190922185206.3ed64af4@interia.pl> <8736gorzqn.fsf@nckx> <20190923024535.39385299@kompiuter> <87y2yalt7h.fsf@gnu.org> <20190927200254.50801048@kompiuter> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 7 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:31:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190927200254.50801048@kompiuter> (Jan's message of "Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:02:54 +0200") Message-ID: <875zlc22eh.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37482 Cc: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , 37482@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello, Jan skribis: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:04:50 +0200 > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > >> There=E2=80=99s no way to skip it. However, there are a couple of trick= s: > What about adding an option to only download substitutes for older > devices? That=E2=80=99s not possible in the general case. Also, it would be problem= atic security-wise because you could easily find yourself installing older versions with known vulnerabilities. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:46:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator