From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.156858565428486 (code B ref -1); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:15:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2019 22:14:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cmb-0007PO-J7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:14:13 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39869) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cma-0007PG-4D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:14:01 +0000 Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x8FMDKYE007064 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:13:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909150242 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909150240 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.78 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) (emacs) `Contributing' says: For more information on how to contribute, see the 'etc/CONTRIBUTE' file in the Emacs distribution. I find no such file. I'm using ordinary Emacs releases on MS Windows. First, there are two `etc' folders: One at the top level of the zip archive, and one as folder `share/emacs/26.3/etc'. So those instructions about looking for `etc/CONTRIBUTE' aren't clear. I find no `CONTRIBUTE' in either of those `etc' folders. Searching with Windows Explorer finds no such file anywhere in the Emacs 26.3 distribution (I have the "full" distribution, i.e., with dependencies). I find file `share/emacs/26.3/etc/README', but that says almost nothing, and certainly nothing about contributing to Emacs development. I also find `share/emacs/26.3/README.W32', but that makes no reference to `CONTRIBUTE'. When I search the distribution of Emacs 24.5, I find CONTRIBUTE in folder `share/emacs/24.5/etc'. Similarly for some other releases (for 23.4 it is in top-level folder `etc'; for 22.3 it's in the top-level folder). But starting with Emacs 25.3.1 I find no such file. (I also find no such file for 21.4 or 20.7.) What am I missing? Where is a user on MS Windows supposed to find file `CONTRIBUTE'? In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.156858589429009 (code B ref 37414); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2019 22:18:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cqU-0007Xo-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:18:14 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:58524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cqS-0007XZ-Ij for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:18:13 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8FMETrg094028 for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:18:05 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=u93+7YOduBzTgkq6AO+NSnqns1Ka1m2yDs1HP82QnOA=; b=igb5TuFCaovXgR224BCdVU3X+cAr9z7/4KmVMgcv/OM1geJgwBNheG8rEDoV6d+p2j3C dte8dLy/K6GkxIVAy4pOlqVbtJgz4Zne+ZzY7J/Nk66ZE1G994iini1InEdlUqsXBMs1 eRAacaVHxFV6fjkfj0SAD+5KX1Y1UkYvICqRyiDpfIdQYlwPsQcaJhns96pil2SfnuCn jzJVbf5Gu6DMvLrb0KaSgSi6u3SIMcFR6DpvCl7Fry8yRGUZ2ytODpWvm8tKh5rlGbYW vLGy/nsJa66uA08fyL0CihONa2vLD/EN6K8TSZ+HamIP3YBLGYN/j7M7G2tjAQZghzFy tw== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0qmt4c30-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:18:05 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8FMI4AK142716 for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:18:04 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0r1fpv1p-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:18:04 +0000 Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x8FMI3Ek021606 for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 22:18:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:18:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default> In-Reply-To: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=13 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=709 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909150243 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=13 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=780 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909150243 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) BTW, I also see this, in (efaq-w32) `Does not run': For example, there should be a file CONTRIBUTE in the top level directory; That differs from the other mention of such a file being in an `etc' folder, FWIW. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.15686464927768 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 15:08:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sbr-00021D-SL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:08:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sbq-00020z-1z for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:08:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sbk-0001XB-9b; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:08:04 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1085 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sbi-0007Mb-NT; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:08:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:07:57 +0300 Message-Id: <8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT)) References: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > (emacs) `Contributing' says: > > For more information on how to contribute, see the 'etc/CONTRIBUTE' > file in the Emacs distribution. You have an old manual, from an older Emacs version. > Where is a user on MS Windows supposed to find file `CONTRIBUTE'? In the source tree, as the contents of that file has changed and makes no sense without access to the sources. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.156865095823582 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 16:22:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9tlu-00068I-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:22:38 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:35008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9tls-000685-Ol for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:22:37 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GGE5Q6169566; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:22:29 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=uhSpGYERAqaiPtlvYl2jRb4/bXOsnlkGRAdpBI7Ly1g=; b=Qbm/IvA926oqRaHR+P3W3boEJ3z+3BdX96JQb1VyStXPbaT2fBvKjdZOpzSPuVOkH+mw pKYf0uQewZJzwt9Bk6Xp6Y+P39LtZPBYleEm4d0Hdkbd+B4U4fEo2VpI4Fyb6oz6RUid mOrxUWm/Ked4yl4llqeUFNKQRDJQLA+G565bf1n4GX89LQI+gY0YxoOKIq09VrWXhZLM FRsb7Cwv7qlMi1/qyIbiYIB8qMLKcqg2bSB3Ex9XgSiWn3wREIFo5aj+6vmJC09VawnK pCubR7jG3wTPtvf1S8NpV1cOawkwcjP6DXjkjyTIAvNpnKu4kp7csm5HYBZVbhYjp0nI GQ== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v2bx2rv0f-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:22:29 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GGCqkY124480; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:22:28 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0r1gqt64-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:22:28 +0000 Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x8GGMRjv010334; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:22:27 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 09:22:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <<93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>> <<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160167 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160167 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > You have an old manual, from an older Emacs version. emacs -Q for Emacs 26.3 says this in `(emacs) Contributing': If you would like to make more extensive contributions, see the 'CONTRIBUTE' file in the Emacs distribution for information on how to be an Emacs developer. > > Where is a user on MS Windows supposed to find file `CONTRIBUTE'? >=20 > In the source tree, as the contents of that file has changed and makes > no sense without access to the sources. No idea what "the source tree" means here. That node tells users to look for file CONTRIBUTE "in the Emacs distribution". Where is it in the Emacs distribution? The same node also says: It is important to write your patch based on the current working version. But there's no spec of what constitutes a "patch" - what to include in it or what form it takes. Nothing about the form of a patch file, change log etc. Is such info in the missing (?) CONTRIBUTE file? If not, where is it? From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.156865216825767 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 16:42:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50955 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9u5P-0006hX-L4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:42:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9u5N-0006hF-5H for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:42:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9u5H-00086o-Eb; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:42:39 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2898 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i9u5G-0006Ej-OP; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:42:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 19:42:36 +0300 Message-Id: <83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 16 Sep 2019 09:22:26 -0700 (PDT)) References: <<93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>> <<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED > autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 09:22:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org > > > You have an old manual, from an older Emacs version. > > emacs -Q for Emacs 26.3 says this in `(emacs) Contributing': > > If you would like to make more extensive contributions, see the > 'CONTRIBUTE' file in the Emacs distribution for information on > how to be an Emacs developer. > > > > Where is a user on MS Windows supposed to find file `CONTRIBUTE'? > > > > In the source tree, as the contents of that file has changed and makes > > no sense without access to the sources. > > No idea what "the source tree" means here. That node tells > users to look for file CONTRIBUTE "in the Emacs distribution". > Where is it in the Emacs distribution? In the source tarball, in the top-level directory. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.156865423429903 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 17:17:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50979 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9ucj-0007mF-IJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:17:14 -0400 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:40452) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9ucf-0007lk-9y for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:17:10 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GHEo5I169564; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:17:03 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=VZLZ/T5AZ/JyikWtYM3ouQxjERJ4MY/qN6QfaMawhJA=; b=Fe7PIGMpVWwJtJmzWxAYtdBgAQstwpN2tBvDOUcYkf5ivRqw3gBSoTDUuuZg/O5XD3rv n9ureCo4CU3Hmj56RJ/+/8BSxaJhybjIKVrRX8FlvuVWh7eFepqHpG2HIIHSm4w6g4Kx rps7zJdci3uoncCTI7izFhEfjFJgMC7dZLS7wJgC+yRZJsycyXY4RIDpV3/f5ECB/zDw xVFq+6B4vBukrst7NeHvWYzE8TCJJvoAt7AuuzpTjcS9uuhZWtppMwxv11LdZ/7J70OC gB6yj95bdWXSt4rMzbeteYESb0DuXGaWOQk4fxMjdxSHy+Rzq/s2ROWMLGJcw0YKyHhA lA== Received: from userp3030.oracle.com (userp3030.oracle.com [156.151.31.80]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0r5p8xy2-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:17:02 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GHDupF118649; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:17:02 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0nb5297f-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:17:01 +0000 Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x8GHH0YE012390; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:17:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <<<93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>>> <<<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160170 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160171 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > emacs -Q for Emacs 26.3 says this in `(emacs) Contributing': > > > > If you would like to make more extensive contributions, see the > > 'CONTRIBUTE' file in the Emacs distribution for information on > > how to be an Emacs developer. > > > > > > Where is a user on MS Windows supposed to find file `CONTRIBUTE'? > > > > > > In the source tree, as the contents of that file has changed and make= s > > > no sense without access to the sources. > > > > No idea what "the source tree" means here. That node tells > > users to look for file CONTRIBUTE "in the Emacs distribution". > > Where is it in the Emacs distribution? >=20 > In the source tarball, in the top-level directory. What's that? I have an "Emacs distribution" for 26.3, from here (the location announced in emacs-devel@gnu.org on 2019-09-01):=20 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__alpha.gnu.org_gnu_em= acs_pretest_windows_emacs-2D26_&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7q= IrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DkI3P6ljGv6CTHIKju0jqInF6AOwMCYRDQUmqX22rJ98&m=3D7le47_V= mxC77S4y7ZAEyhihP7eM9uhQzgEyuCq2jGAE&s=3DlZL3oWwAmq2LTzXevRIMYcwDl_2GbE3phy= ns_9v30RI&e=3D There is no CONTRIBUTE anywhere in that zip archive, AFAICT. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.15686566771660 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 17:57:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vG8-0000Qh-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:57:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55719) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vG6-0000QS-Oj for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:57:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vG0-0007Vz-TE; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:57:48 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3809 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vFz-0001J1-Nh; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:57:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 20:57:44 +0300 Message-Id: <83tv9cw2cn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT)) References: <<<93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>>> <<<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>> <5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > No idea what "the source tree" means here. That node tells > > > users to look for file CONTRIBUTE "in the Emacs distribution". > > > Where is it in the Emacs distribution? > > > > In the source tarball, in the top-level directory. > > What's that? I have an "Emacs distribution" for 26.3, from here > (the location announced in emacs-devel@gnu.org on 2019-09-01): > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__alpha.gnu.org_gnu_emacs_pretest_windows_emacs-2D26_&d=DwICAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=kI3P6ljGv6CTHIKju0jqInF6AOwMCYRDQUmqX22rJ98&m=7le47_VmxC77S4y7ZAEyhihP7eM9uhQzgEyuCq2jGAE&s=lZL3oWwAmq2LTzXevRIMYcwDl_2GbE3phyns_9v30RI&e= > > There is no CONTRIBUTE anywhere in that zip archive, AFAICT. These are binary zip files, not source tarballs. You should look on ftp.gnu.org instead. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Cc: 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.15686582894409 (code B ref 37414); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 18:24:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51021 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vg9-000193-1r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 14:24:49 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:57536) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9vg6-00018p-Aa for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 14:24:47 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GINfc9087671; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:24:40 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=XwOgO7oDKaZCPX5MU/eSm0gGdieUeTvuycCk5yQvEOQ=; b=nddAUwpLHOWMJZugRFXc/vNUDefwid/m1JDRKg9MlMPFzUMi7JzDIgAjdv2Ca6vZl8ve uPMepaSHYi9MqVes/0QamPBZUwElPPfFHvp+VI5g+hrG/l4HM9V6clxAhB8HWeqzbo1a y+3ZWXrVoma0aN78HnRqEvYohi4W4Y1xaebksF1KZzCEdOuE8YaRhcRaE2KcMBEBqyc3 Q2jcFrLVi+doaSHcxo64CcHzPekYDX3q6dadPm8Su4LRIze4TkD89FNCqjHQk8cqqL5e MbH0nTYoyHC6jx/t0nmTeImxIFQV6guGAfd0EK7IsvsbCJjSqDwzrqR8GEWZRMQgnx2e oA== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v2bx2sgnp-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:24:40 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x8GINmw4074360; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:24:39 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0r1gv33p-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:24:39 +0000 Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x8GIOY2E023839; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:24:38 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0718ff78-cc3b-465a-b109-34e15a5387a9@default> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <<<<93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>>>> <<<<8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>>>> <<>> <<<83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default>> <<83tv9cw2cn.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83tv9cw2cn.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160179 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9382 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160179 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > These are binary zip files, not source tarballs. You should look on > ftp.gnu.org instead. How about improving the manual to explain what it means by "the Emacs distribution", if that's not what users download to install Emacs? Or how about including CONTRIBUTE in the zip archive that users download to install Emacs? 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Content preview: severity 37414 wishlist quit Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.215.176 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.215.176 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different 2.0 BLANK_SUBJECT Subject is present but empty severity 37414 wishlist quit From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.16030233776415 (code B ref 37414); Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2020 12:16:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kU7bl-0001fP-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 08:16:17 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f65.google.com ([209.85.218.65]:32973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kU7bj-0001f3-MO for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 08:16:16 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f65.google.com with SMTP id c22so10055206ejx.0 for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fmzy+RoycH7PoAjpGcjz2PyXfCSL9X8ZezMF66HRzao=; b=TNRvG/UWWRinCyo8TPW5cV773qSwqzmr222/ZN38A2/7V/83LSvZsnqTvbIuxR+syg AFbCRQdCNm8Nr2R+NcOzEy4dZ8YCOv90nBuIt4HSrdRkn+ft4MIY3Y5UVlMKSHged5wO 9KJ/+iB52tn9zPwW9e0Wb8Bz9Cd6kKXnqAcECoVL9lE5R6Y8MZibS3kJZYCnAlLaIGBQ mZ853n1KFQJQmdzWm05fesjujgyQor5GEVIxux5sJGmdnI2gCWPaEkwrt5gBrdLF/lqd bimtgGkPOF8N4MC35is/4tHax+GWT1C1opjjeoZM7924DAIaMAFinivNuN/oUBcK8Hfz 7BMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5338tzQr7jC8ej9B7rxfnSG7NRgd0Y0AeNA+a/YVUQhix2nwZ45O GmlbTUUziu6ldnlwXXilExDxx92IS+VDcY+VKk8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy0seD+Bfuguldv6hzS2xh/2lZKDjH2XLcmPWKx5BA0tsmO6ex+bVM8ZIw8NLT+wgPLTh9Lyt2THPxDqYoseOI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1246:: with SMTP id u6mr12381757eja.432.1603023370053; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:16:09 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <0718ff78-cc3b-465a-b109-34e15a5387a9@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:24:33 -0700 (PDT)") References: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>>>> <8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>>>> >> <83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>>> <5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default>> <83tv9cw2cn.fsf@gnu.org>> <0718ff78-cc3b-465a-b109-34e15a5387a9@default> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:16:09 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Drew Adams writes: >> These are binary zip files, not source tarballs. You should look on >> ftp.gnu.org instead. > > How about improving the manual to explain what it > means by "the Emacs distribution", if that's not > what users download to install Emacs? On current master, this text says: If you would like to make more extensive contributions, see the =E2=80=98CONTRIBUTE=E2=80=99 file in the Emacs distribution for informati= on on how to be an Emacs developer. Perhaps we could just change "the Emacs distribution" to "the development version of Emacs"? > Or how about including CONTRIBUTE in the zip archive that users > download to install Emacs? The problem is that our conventions may change over time. New developers are better off looking for the latest version of the file. From unknown Mon Jun 23 20:20:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37414: 26.3; (emacs) `Contributing': no `etc/CONTRIBUTE' Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 37414@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37414.163253392924556 (code B ref 37414); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 37414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 01:38:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59735 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTweP-0006Nz-8D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:38:49 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49]:35704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTweJ-0006NS-Jk for 37414@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:38:46 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f49.google.com with SMTP id d13-20020a17090ad3cd00b0019e746f7bd4so5699433pjw.0 for <37414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:38:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q++4z3sImhHHwnbN/VbIGD7r9aSORcx/S8ktXK8jaH0=; b=i9yzJKBVXXNEV3JRG+BYXoR09PAMOb4xWtLQFa8XFH6pukBmqEs5+4JN4VpXZIkeDI RrnzOhum6dC2PG1f9KR3TgecDMYdYvz6GBST7Yr2s2gv2U3uY2poy+CDDUm02AgTYYRz y8ql7W6nGOHy2OzQjLRZlh/+7AcDMbJFFbLa6Cn+gqKHm3uLGw7fZP/Qv6MQiNEdPyjZ qzpwr5ZKvode1lOgfwbWVGugXgo+aNNNYij6SbB+Xs9rrjbzFv23Ns3qhvy67lyfO7Qu JQ3CjBRq4z0+YblqeIiFZQqHTrArElm5Rxaz7HtoaUXuCoFjpapBBrVqhXkzWmgX5mYK gsCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320KoRr8bcZwPNmbdt4I0y8wAlpC8Axh3g+JAGpf50AabKXN/Xc ZyOFdlN5EBhYafMiqtAe4XAhQMqOmJ02KOTidg8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwn9K/YFAafhGaKolAFg1mxU75qWzSUNvx99FhYD2R19gTv143juJ6Y6ZPma/yq3sPsfdZLLEwyIaVdG8nCj/0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3805:: with SMTP id mq5mr5746724pjb.143.1632533917763; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:38:37 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:16:09 -0700") References: <93efd688-4a2f-46d1-bb8b-805cbe6b7ccd@default>>>> <8336gwxos2.fsf@gnu.org>>>> >> <83v9tsw5tv.fsf@gnu.org>>> <5d48e5eb-59d7-44c6-972e-deba07847ba2@default>> <83tv9cw2cn.fsf@gnu.org>> <0718ff78-cc3b-465a-b109-34e15a5387a9@default> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:38:37 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 37414 fixed close 37414 28.1 thanks Stefan Kangas writes: > Drew Adams writes: > >>> These are binary zip files, not source tarballs. You should look on >>> ftp.gnu.org instead. >> >> How about improving the manual to explain what it >> means by "the Emacs distribution", if that's not >> what users download to install Emacs? > > On current master, this text says: > > If you would like to make more extensive contributions, see the > =E2=80=98CONTRIBUTE=E2=80=99 file in the Emacs distribution for informa= tion on how to be > an Emacs developer. > > Perhaps we could just change "the Emacs distribution" to "the > development version of Emacs"? No further comments within a year, so I've now made this change on master. I'm therefore closing this bug report.