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26.1; CTL rendering for some indic characters fails

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From: Joshua Immanuel <josh <at> hipro.co.in>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1; CTL rendering for some indic characters fails
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:40:17 +0530

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After upgrading to Debian Buster, CTL rendering seems to be broken for
some characters in Tamil. I have installed fonts-lohit-taml package for
font support.

To see this problem, we can do a "C-x 8 RET" and try auto completing
"TAMIL VOWEL SIGN" in mini buffer. In this, we can notice empty
characters instead of actuals for "TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU", "TAMIL VOWEL
SIGN O" and "TAMIL VOWEL SIGN OO". So, while typing these characters it
makes the previous character disappear.

I thought, this could be a m17n-db issue and tried building
emacs-27.0.50 from [1]. But, that too had the same issue inspite of the
fact that it uses HaffBuzz. 

However, this problem is not present in the latest HEAD. So, doing a
"git bisect" on the repository, I found that the following commit is
the one which actually fixed the problem.

"64767008f70af88d193d36eb6d2c27e4bc95ea8e Support
font driver supersession"

Is this fix relevant to emacs-26. Can this be backported to fix this
issue?


1: https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/


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-- 
Joshua Immanuel
HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited
http://hipro.co.in

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Message #8 received at 37355 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Joshua Immanuel <josh <at> hipro.co.in>
Cc: 37355 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37355: 26.1; CTL rendering for some indic characters fails
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 19:06:22 +0300

> From: Joshua Immanuel <josh <at> hipro.co.in>
> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:40:17 +0530
> 
> However, this problem is not present in the latest HEAD. So, doing a
> "git bisect" on the repository, I found that the following commit is
> the one which actually fixed the problem.
> 
> "64767008f70af88d193d36eb6d2c27e4bc95ea8e Support
> font driver supersession"
> 
> Is this fix relevant to emacs-26. Can this be backported to fix this
> issue?

You can try backporting it, although I don't expect it to be easy,
because that commit was done after adding HarfBuzz support, which
required quite a few changes in font backend machinery all over.

We don't expect to make any further releases from the emacs-26 branch,
so backporting those changes would be pointless.

May I suggest that you continue using Emacs 27?  We added HarfBuzz
support because we believe it is developed much more actively that
m17n-db, and thus will generally produce better results in scripts
that require complex shaping.

Message #11 received at 37355 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Joshua Immanuel <josh <at> hipro.co.in>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37355 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37355: 26.1; CTL rendering for some indic characters fails
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:56:26 +0530

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On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 19:06 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> We don't expect to make any further releases from the emacs-26
> branch, so backporting those changes would be pointless.
> 
> May I suggest that you continue using Emacs 27?  We added HarfBuzz
> support because we believe it is developed much more actively that
> m17n-db, and thus will generally produce better results in scripts
> that require complex shaping.

Okay. Will switch to emacs-27.

Thanks.
-- 
Joshua Immanuel
HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited
http://hipro.co.in

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