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[70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d11sm6011otp.17.2019.08.29.09.56.38 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::330 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi - After the recent NSM update gnus fails to open my mail with this message: Warning: Opening nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no process My setup is that I use mbsync/isync to download the mail and run dovecot read the maildir and host it as an imap server. Since it's local it's not encrypted. Setting network-security-protocol-checks to nil does not change anything. I've only recently started using dovecot/gnus so it's possible I've done something silly but it was working before the NSM update (at commit ef8531d262081d91ecf2a4f349bc63a0fede90d4) and isn't working as of 4b87169d113a151e5d9d6cf7b0d7cb4fb1d3d2d7. Thanks, Alex In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.10) Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000 System Description: NixOS 19.03.173394.147bd882fc6 (Koi) Recent messages: Warning: Opening nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no process Saving file /home/alex/Sync/emacs/gnus/.newsrc-dribble... Wrote /home/alex/Sync/emacs/gnus/.newsrc-dribble (Saved .newsrc-dribble) Mark set Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n) y Saving /home/alex/Sync/emacs/gnus/.newsrc.eld... Saving file /home/alex/Sync/emacs/gnus/.newsrc.eld... 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Since it's local it's Alex> not encrypted. Setting network-security-protocol-checks to nil does not Alex> change anything. I've only recently started using dovecot/gnus so it's Alex> possible I've done something silly but it was working before the NSM Alex> update (at commit ef8531d262081d91ecf2a4f349bc63a0fede90d4) and isn't Alex> working as of 4b87169d113a151e5d9d6cf7b0d7cb4fb1d3d2d7. Can you show us your Gnus configuration? Also, what is your 'network-security-level' set to? 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[70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y23sm2149243oti.10.2019.09.03.11.26.32 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Sep 2019 11:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:26:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 02 Sep 2019 11:33:41 +0200") Message-ID: <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon 02 Sep 2019 at 11:33, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:56:27 -0500, Alex Branham said: > > Alex> Hi - > Alex> After the recent NSM update gnus fails to open my mail with thi= s message: > > Alex> Warning: Opening nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; > Alex> Unable to open server nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer > Alex> *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no process > > Alex> My setup is that I use mbsync/isync to download the mail and ru= n dovecot > Alex> read the maildir and host it as an imap server. Since it's loca= l it's > Alex> not encrypted. Setting network-security-protocol-checks to nil = does not > Alex> change anything. I've only recently started using dovecot/gnus = so it's > Alex> possible I've done something silly but it was working before th= e NSM > Alex> update (at commit ef8531d262081d91ecf2a4f349bc63a0fede90d4) and= isn't > Alex> working as of 4b87169d113a151e5d9d6cf7b0d7cb4fb1d3d2d7. > > Can you show us your Gnus configuration? Also, what is your > 'network-security-level' set to? Sure thing, it's below. network-security-level is medium. If I do (setq nsm-trust-local-network t) then all seems to work as expected. Thanks, Alex (use-package gnus :defer :custom (gnus-home-directory (file-name-directory (expand-file-name "~/Sync/emacs= /gnus/"))) (gnus-save-killed-list nil) (gnus-save-newsrc-file nil) (gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%L%P %y:%B%G\n") (gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-number)) (gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%z%&user-date; %-15,15f: %B%s%)\n") (gnus-user-date-format-alist '((t . 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Also, what is your >> 'network-security-level' set to? Alex> Sure thing, it's below. network-security-level is medium. If I do= (setq Alex> nsm-trust-local-network t) then all seems to work as expected. Oh, that=CA=BCs interesting. You=CA=BCre using (nnimap-stream network), whi= ch will attempt STARTTLS with localhost, unless nsm-trust-local-network is t. (nnimap-stream plain) will turn off the attempted STARTTLS upgrade. Could you try with nsm-trust-local-network nil, and nnimap-record-commands t ? That should produce an "*imap log*" buffer that might tell us more, perhaps with (setq debug-on-error t) for good measure. I=CA=BCll admit I=CA=BCm at a loss as to why the recent nsm changes would c= ause this to start failing. I=CA=BCm assuming there=CA=BCs nothing interesting in "*Messages*", and you=CA=BCre not prompted for anything? 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[70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n32sm7514134otn.61.2019.09.04.06.14.04 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 06:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:13:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Tue, 03 Sep 2019 22:16:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue 03 Sep 2019 at 22:16, Robert Pluim wrote: > Alex> Sure thing, it's below. network-security-level is medium. If I = do (setq > Alex> nsm-trust-local-network t) then all seems to work as expected. > > Oh, that=CA=BCs interesting. You=CA=BCre using (nnimap-stream network), w= hich > will attempt STARTTLS with localhost, unless nsm-trust-local-network > is t. (nnimap-stream plain) will turn off the attempted STARTTLS > upgrade. I tried chancing it to plain and get the same error with the same message. > Could you try with nsm-trust-local-network nil, and > nnimap-record-commands t ? That should produce an "*imap log*" buffer > that might tell us more, perhaps with (setq debug-on-error t) for good > measure. When I tried this there was not an *imap log* buffer. When I set nsm-trust-local-network to t there's an *imap log* buffer, though that's not as useful I suppose. But at least the logging is working? > I=CA=BCll admit I=CA=BCm at a loss as to why the recent nsm changes would= cause > this to start failing. I=CA=BCm assuming there=CA=BCs nothing interesting= in > "*Messages*", and you=CA=BCre not prompted for anything? Correct, other than the message I originally reported (Warning: Opening nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no process) Thanks, Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 09:37:39 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 13:37:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32860 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5VTd-00005z-EX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:37:37 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:42326) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5VTb-00005g-9F for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:37:35 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5VTX-00034y-5g; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:33 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:13:58 -0500") Message-ID: <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alex Branham writes: >> Could you try with nsm-trust-local-network nil, and >> nnimap-record-commands t ? That should produce an "*imap log*" buffer >> that might tell us more, perhaps with (setq debug-on-error t) for goo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Branham writes: >> Could you try with nsm-trust-local-network nil, and >> nnimap-record-commands t ? That should produce an "*imap log*" buffer >> that might tell us more, perhaps with (setq debug-on-error t) for good >> measure. > > When I tried this there was not an *imap log* buffer. When I set > nsm-trust-local-network to t there's an *imap log* buffer, though that's > not as useful I suppose. But at least the logging is working? The setting of nsm-trust-local-network should not affect whether the *imap log* buffer is created or not, so there's something odd going on in your Emacs, I think. >> I=CA=BCll admit I=CA=BCm at a loss as to why the recent nsm changes woul= d cause >> this to start failing. I=CA=BCm assuming there=CA=BCs nothing interestin= g in >> "*Messages*", and you=CA=BCre not prompted for anything? > > Correct, other than the message I originally reported (Warning: Opening > nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; Unable to open server > nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no > process) I can't see any reason why the NSM changes should affect your local connection to your IMAP server, either. Does your setup work if you revert Emacs back to before the NSM changes? And what is the contents of your *imap log* buffer? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:00:52 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:00:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34037 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Vq8-0000vm-GP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:00:52 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f48.google.com ([209.85.210.48]:43617) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Vq6-0000va-V6 for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:00:52 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f48.google.com with SMTP id b2so1320296otq.10 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:00:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=4OX5UbMF6thFtJcruy/U8zJuERKgT3o6VhoayLGrR6o=; b=sqpqBzNoZuB68dQ4aKpqe/mjio0jo4+2SKEb+hPxm5ymIgwKv3Z/llWvz2NP4Rwg1W Ncr80+4l3PtAdjcZHixvRzSCXO1ofSa7GYttDhM12SEFKoJKkzoDmgOVqUP0VWvjeiVA YyZbYFBDL2xEh+9K7byUyzqcQjX1duyfMGjCII5KguoH3N9LdXrfn1GtCrWYpK7lPnli 7N1B4srjXmbx623AVV9ICYtDvIzCdFEtp5RMD1xWgvRM1AZUAyyq4OmZohN3v+T56CP0 DGimupxtrj7lahnDbyef1q2KLYX7id4QIsANW0ZGMv/JKgyAuJ//jnmlEZ8PBDNGFrfr lQQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=4OX5UbMF6thFtJcruy/U8zJuERKgT3o6VhoayLGrR6o=; b=QIZB9VvGcEK/6PG2btLlhgfaRGS5cfbuNBJWMRivniCG46eVxcsZqGe3GZGGL8IfQ5 1XFpWtl2dZmBAvH6uO41UjwrhPFtSxLo96cJTb6dDKv16y4bzn4kE0xYKPKbDThv/zjm WSwcNmeJZmPCKG57seOBa7vXHVZXLgvY8W8KsKOaCvHHhnb9d2kkumTkXyTj6sWQeaZX C+1WJvgMYmE/6nliPBgWWLEJJpKAcr86azNFLKObhh9rI5c4qSRN4v7TbfPP2u+kv4Z3 Z73HwhFRs5UAqL0f13IcpNDUFvaAPXgc3BRTZjWBPAaoMGRkVEEKFupxs8tQzVgAEQ/9 klIA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUbD0OTgXiGoYbPeFTbR9RDmnNqjzbyKKKhtukIIJCokSAI7LKP ybybRPMt0S3/7PGlF+0ldlhzkTDM X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx4IKzrVwZw76PWaPm8xizdCU+vPapgIWEvAhuco9eTU9umND/U8FprPpVR6XbIR4kMqK2GSQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:51:: with SMTP id d17mr7783280otp.358.1567605644953; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars (cpe-70-114-192-208.austin.res.rr.com. [70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d17sm628126otl.25.2019.09.04.07.00.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:00:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:30 +0200") Message-ID: <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Alex Branham writes: > >>> Could you try with nsm-trust-local-network nil, and >>> nnimap-record-commands t ? That should produce an "*imap log*" buffer >>> that might tell us more, perhaps with (setq debug-on-error t) for good >>> measure. >> >> When I tried this there was not an *imap log* buffer. When I set >> nsm-trust-local-network to t there's an *imap log* buffer, though that's >> not as useful I suppose. But at least the logging is working? > > The setting of nsm-trust-local-network should not affect whether the > *imap log* buffer is created or not, so there's something odd going on > in your Emacs, I think. I'm not at all familiar with this part of Emacs, but could it be the case that the NSM is somehow killing the nnimap process before it has a chance to do anything, including logging? > Does your setup work if you revert Emacs back to before the NSM changes? > And what is the contents of your *imap log* buffer? Yes, it does. After reverting to Emacs built August 18th, here's the *imap log* buffer: 08:56:15 [localhost] (inhibited) 08:56:15 [localhost] 26 CAPABILITY. 08:56:15 [localhost] 27 ENABLE QRESYNC. 08:56:15 [localhost] 28 LIST "" "*". 08:56:19 [localhost] 29 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Sent Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742123 3)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 30 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Drafts" (QRESYNC (1565742121 2)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 31 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.All Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742120 16)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 32 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.Sent Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742118 21)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 33 SELECT "gmail/[Gmail]/.Drafts". 08:56:19 [localhost] 34 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS. 08:56:19 [localhost] 35 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.All Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742116 48)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 36 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Trash" (QRESYNC (1565742122 1)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 37 SELECT "INBOX". 08:56:19 [localhost] 38 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS. 08:56:19 [localhost] 39 EXAMINE "gmail/emacs-orgmode" (QRESYNC (1565742113 2)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 40 EXAMINE "gmail/emacs-devel" (QRESYNC (1565742114 2)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 41 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.Trash" (QRESYNC (1565742117 1)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 42 EXAMINE "utexas/INBOX" (QRESYNC (1565742119 36)). 08:56:19 [localhost] 43 EXAMINE "gmail/INBOX" (QRESYNC (1565742115 101)). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:16:43 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:16:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34062 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5W5R-0001Ir-R5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:16:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5W5P-0001Ii-Mu for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:16:40 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5W5H-0003QF-LD; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:16:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:16:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:00:39 -0500") Message-ID: <877e6odu4g.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alex Branham writes: > I'm not at all familiar with this part of Emacs, but could it be the > case that the NSM is somehow killing the nnimap process before it has a > chance to do anything, including logging? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Branham writes: > I'm not at all familiar with this part of Emacs, but could it be the > case that the NSM is somehow killing the nnimap process before it has a > chance to do anything, including logging? No, the NSM just pups up a warning (and will then kill the connection if you tell it to). There were other changes in the patch set that could possibly affect something, though. >> Does your setup work if you revert Emacs back to before the NSM changes? >> And what is the contents of your *imap log* buffer? > > Yes, it does. After reverting to Emacs built August 18th, here's the > *imap log* buffer: But what does the *imap log* buffer look like in the current trunk? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:24:49 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:24:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WDJ-0001VC-3S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:24:49 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:44303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WDH-0001Uz-TO for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:24:48 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id 21so13328760otj.11 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:24:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Vw8AVcN1N181i3PEFLVt4zDiHhjcrZD5Fc5wbhB+eLI=; b=s0llw16Wr/tmPkM8eB+X4VPKXtOYfQ7QjMf+el1+5/xhlXG2hGVeQ6lpy19ll7oo7W BT3HY6Ntx1d0zZ/Gup1CouVD1encn/RqH9Oo80aglwehV7N6Yiv8j8oXZJEVuFGQVM+F SVp7aXZSKe3JRBcNXlNEsBYi5qDqeTa/IaglnIdksD5B5EJtj1OW6QMcKaHgbg3843Jx 7jzcqnNfPRGO5tkhyoD/qlMnHZJXE4LjSmoJz9lnspTfQTR/MoGk2hzEIb3j0juPBRGv /RgipcGQIO+sewipfQfYXy6RenLKY7wuLY5+ViTUO6yNr1deTA7JbXRYP1atGyIwRNQ/ vx1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Vw8AVcN1N181i3PEFLVt4zDiHhjcrZD5Fc5wbhB+eLI=; b=iTpvdTgifF7z9LkLh97Vubzc/zYSIv6K2prqUq69QoJH3kUOR0xqxGJ1iyWXl43e71 WQDorOrKs+wcvxQvJ4xXDEY+vaWloHCUsELm6B66NxR1xaXrlE2DKHbCMSewfB/rcSfj 5wb+K2KhTOJm9WV66VZ47f13o8Vp5UPhOopsT9SsKlNPcAslgmUTg6wwey3QIsTqHVlv eHoLatewwPLwDAKfYJEWtiZihgzeOLlKUjCnDH/QU64/RGqD37Ligrp2Pgv54S/M4qMh iqT9iw6Jhmf5k9G6RgfUi+yNLSZFx93CO+IAW68qwnl2y7r5ERFJBC2SE+qcB2tNPc92 OSpg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAULHhJz+8VhIwc7hHipDX7GYvKZSmaHcLRLKIfY5nwRSiF8tUNl oN71/lvCXoJGEdoAi96DDbjfjCRG X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzXrUAPA99LAXDQcqpU+kFQwdf2DCypoGubQ7/u2mA8QpdwQJIvbsXvoW4VoLzlQ3kbudecBA== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7c99:: with SMTP id q25mr14788616otn.169.1567607082018; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars (cpe-70-114-192-208.austin.res.rr.com. [70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 23sm5218780oiy.47.2019.09.04.07.24.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <877e6odu4g.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:24:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877e6odu4g.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:16:31 +0200") Message-ID: <878sr4dtqv.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 16:16, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Alex Branham writes: > >> I'm not at all familiar with this part of Emacs, but could it be the >> case that the NSM is somehow killing the nnimap process before it has a >> chance to do anything, including logging? > > No, the NSM just pups up a warning (and will then kill the connection if > you tell it to). > > There were other changes in the patch set that could possibly affect > something, though. > >>> Does your setup work if you revert Emacs back to before the NSM changes? >>> And what is the contents of your *imap log* buffer? >> >> Yes, it does. After reverting to Emacs built August 18th, here's the >> *imap log* buffer: > > But what does the *imap log* buffer look like in the current trunk? Not quite "current" trunk (commit 42ba6200af10c00c72ac13912d6fb42a7af88058 from August 26th), but with nsm-trust-local-network set to nil (the default), the *imap log* buffer doesn't get created. If I set it to t, then *imap log* looks like this: 09:21:46 [localhost] (inhibited) 09:21:46 [localhost] 501 CAPABILITY. 09:21:46 [localhost] 502 ENABLE QRESYNC. 09:21:46 [localhost] 503 LIST "" "*". 09:21:49 [localhost] 504 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Sent Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742123 3)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 505 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Drafts" (QRESYNC (1565742121 2)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 506 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.All Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742120 17)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 507 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.Sent Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742118 23)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 508 SELECT "gmail/[Gmail]/.Drafts". 09:21:49 [localhost] 509 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS. 09:21:49 [localhost] 510 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.All Mail" (QRESYNC (1565742116 52)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 511 EXAMINE "utexas/[Gmail]/.Trash" (QRESYNC (1565742122 1)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 512 SELECT "INBOX". 09:21:49 [localhost] 513 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS. 09:21:49 [localhost] 514 EXAMINE "gmail/emacs-orgmode" (QRESYNC (1565742113 2)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 515 EXAMINE "gmail/emacs-devel" (QRESYNC (1565742114 2)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 516 EXAMINE "gmail/[Gmail]/.Trash" (QRESYNC (1565742117 1)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 517 EXAMINE "utexas/INBOX" (QRESYNC (1565742119 39)). 09:21:49 [localhost] 518 EXAMINE "gmail/INBOX" (QRESYNC (1565742115 107)). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:35:47 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:35:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WNv-0001nH-Cz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:35:47 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WNt-0001n9-FG for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:35:45 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WNo-0003WU-Mc; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:35:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <877e6odu4g.fsf@gnus.org> <878sr4dtqv.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:35:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878sr4dtqv.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:24:40 -0500") Message-ID: <87woeoceo3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alex Branham writes: > Not quite "current" trunk (commit > 42ba6200af10c00c72ac13912d6fb42a7af88058 from August 26th), but with > nsm-trust-local-network set to nil (the default), the *imap log* buffer > doesn't get creat [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Branham writes: > Not quite "current" trunk (commit > 42ba6200af10c00c72ac13912d6fb42a7af88058 from August 26th), but with > nsm-trust-local-network set to nil (the default), the *imap log* buffer > doesn't get created. If I set it to t, then *imap log* looks like this: Oh, I see... When nsm-trust-local-network is nil, then we don't even get as far as starting the IMAP session. Are there any messages in *Messages* that could indicate where it's bugging out? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:51:59 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:51:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wda-0002Bl-Ou for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:51:59 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]:37969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WdZ-0002BZ-O1 for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:51:58 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f47.google.com with SMTP id r20so20876983ota.5 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:51:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=6QRdm+fqnbI2XD6D+nnwuduovooswotT9WPB0YL5nDM=; b=XqeUqfe9h1lyEHUoumX+/1ipRrFFs6XxmpEAZGmbkGRzKK9Ii7cvAtg2D0UaNVp9my FZhBTEQoYOaQiJdZqH5m9d9T7dBThcn/trGgKT9U+W1YbDQE8sFzytHcZq5/frBAkX9s f7z9UZlIq3r3Ty5iIOUpwpLrs8asUewsTI+MNxDQVb9Q1Zud/HUXFlgGtkIHmvBeoWTb 73WWsUzLqHG9/w5qdFHcFQWYVBnjULQSXrkyf+H1oT9rwOfW+U2J3a9+ufUWzo6pK3lI JBirYmqdB0GHfg187jAEtJPGCuuk0dSOrk8QaWNSpQWns5+n4xq2U4cOBe2BWGvde1TF iBBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=6QRdm+fqnbI2XD6D+nnwuduovooswotT9WPB0YL5nDM=; b=s7XD0uDeB3WP6DLpSfKNIZAOISw6sqVcc3AudrtvytxHJd/pXkpXFdHnp7/G1dgIko lYbCfsdqt+OINNNkDgPS0gX+CIZEoUk1xGtY01EJ5aFs9WmLvof1sl/SZQincphXAH1a cD5wYDf8CzqX8rHZJPGIUqwiJGJlJjkrlawy4EWgqWoTyvfPEGHsN2nTpwfjgsLgSX5Z bHnRSCSq118irRwno9qtICF4dGe11ePkE4sFq37aSOZn3KYW9lO9dgovZ6OSO3D0w3C0 WDD+HgS/PGIVoJ5DB6fysUqSGqE5cf4k+dkYN8rr7lK04/kKaB74RD/xj07Wd+OoI6mR Xzww== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUi/poGxk/zTEa9uwLH9lszXjeE39xSDxBK0zSKzEqu4cmrYbj0 8yRHgbwFPPUi3MrXljO8ugFMDckk X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw8ZOJET0Ub8uBNg88SgqumavYAIye9yHEmvvJB+TP1udCHk21RP5Gpd9FB6ojc7q48FEJf5Q== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6256:: with SMTP id i22mr5797775otk.139.1567608711732; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars (cpe-70-114-192-208.austin.res.rr.com. [70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n32sm7592454otn.61.2019.09.04.07.51.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:51:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <877e6odu4g.fsf@gnus.org> <878sr4dtqv.fsf@gmail.com> <87woeoceo3.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:51:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87woeoceo3.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:35:40 +0200") Message-ID: <871rwwdshl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 16:35, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Are there any messages in *Messages* that could indicate where it's > bugging out? No, nothing other than the original report: Warning: Opening nnimap server on LocalMail...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+LocalMail due to: Buffer *nnimap localhost nil *nntpd** has no process Thanks, Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:56:18 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:56:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Whm-0002Jo-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:56:18 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:37475) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Whj-0002JZ-O6 for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:56:16 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id r195so4173485wme.2 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=484tXPNSGxZ/moZuN86pHLfCoYAhJEfituOQrDlPlwI=; b=WznCRK6ha42hXqw1tvcOCG0nVgcEKGGwaUMzw/AAEEn50kGg77HIbjGOY0rXV1qXND rLTn898DAmbecJK40SAUjdFVkGKotGZL4xxw9j7YIQkWNfe9ZaAVAqi9MJVRajlKQO6p 9eEvXCbjE8JXGyXiWBenJxLFrjkVd5k9NK6GgB6SrkcQmQ/gyLXlE1KWBfHTwT/Mua6a n/VJMu2KQtopPulLiuVGGXAuMJHJGgs4lfBPVKFvRZbtE1rnN9GunT8PZwMeTfWe+11v 0SWT3+nIK0SRP0G6kgDc1hi7ENdWTWysHKzAbW2IBk5XHLFDlU7MJScJcQEHrnZMOEuM hTDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=484tXPNSGxZ/moZuN86pHLfCoYAhJEfituOQrDlPlwI=; b=hKX6nivZApfMtCsHKulRNqCeUnLFVA1U0FNj1r1rV/9cKbQQY5K55plTjDnYb+w+Je xiNqOzyxmbmNwN2r7cdOgAv+ebh2Wu6nIldN10QT9vM3WPRqz8KgYCTCRGr0dkuiCS/o bpB98Ib8MtGbN+YBqoTfwlyYkIsbMucgRUwg2D12ovtU502fn/a1D/kx3OKNIRlIc+1Q we/esI81SGjSYB9YWhR2IRLcFq9LMUMKvvdy1U4/flBH3NRKlWzjJED+ZJev1jSftunQ 6rA40gM/eqiUASJhodo7jVJknMqMGSIrzf0+IbHDv9E9aujnpDBH/FJVFKLh6cbdVZte iv5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVj/uuHYfRknXI8ZtcOBKJAZrt0BPxpF+BaPpJyvXEn4adFo0Nj utrPQ21OJVcWCX1YGPPknsqSefCF X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxR0Et3/0YrGoFlJAknQ1df8j4z0AnAxLrKJ+rphTNclSTkoMAUuZrHUgy6MRq8YFCbm4AB2w== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7214:: with SMTP id n20mr4503332wmc.160.1567608969382; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w15sm15348050wru.53.2019.09.04.07.56.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:56:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:00:39 -0500") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 09:00:39 -0500, Alex Branham said: >> The setting of nsm-trust-local-network should not affect whether the >> *imap log* buffer is created or not, so there's something odd going = on >> in your Emacs, I think. Alex> I'm not at all familiar with this part of Emacs, but could it be = the Alex> case that the NSM is somehow killing the nnimap process before it= has a Alex> chance to do anything, including logging? Yes, that=CA=BCs what it looks like >> Does your setup work if you revert Emacs back to before the NSM chan= ges? >> And what is the contents of your *imap log* buffer? Alex> Yes, it does. After reverting to Emacs built August 18th, here's = the *imap log* buffer: Alex> 08:56:15 [localhost] (inhibited) I=CA=BCve spotted one possible problem: nsm-query runs even when the connection is unencrypted, which ends up doing (insert nil), which aborts the connection. Does the following help? (Lars, why is nsm prompting for unencrypted connections?) diff --git a/lisp/net/nsm.el b/lisp/net/nsm.el index 5e8381075b..7243ae8822 100644 --- a/lisp/net/nsm.el +++ b/lisp/net/nsm.el @@ -788,7 +788,8 @@ nsm-check-plain-connection (defun nsm-query (host port status what problems message) ;; If there is no user to answer queries, then say `no' to everything. (if (or noninteractive - nsm-noninteractive) + nsm-noninteractive + (not status)) nil (let ((response (condition-case nil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:59:42 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 14:59:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wl3-0002Pa-R3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:59:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43852) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wl1-0002PM-RJ for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:59:41 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wky-0003ls-3f; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:59:38 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:59:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:56:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87sgpccdk8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > Iʼve spotted one possible problem: nsm-query runs even when the > connection is unencrypted, which ends up doing (insert nil), which > aborts the connection. Does the following help? (Lars, why is [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > I=CA=BCve spotted one possible problem: nsm-query runs even when the > connection is unencrypted, which ends up doing (insert nil), which > aborts the connection. Does the following help? (Lars, why is nsm > prompting for unencrypted connections?) It runs for all kinds of connections -- a non-encrypted one could, for instance, be one that's a result of a downgrade attack. So if it now assumes that the connection is always encrypted, that's a new bug. Hm... anybody know of a server that absolutely not doesn't have STARTTLS that I can test with? :-) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 11:04:20 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 15:04:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WpX-0004dH-S2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:04:20 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f53.google.com ([209.85.210.53]:34365) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5WpW-0004d5-QL for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:04:19 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id c7so20967167otp.1 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jFekKU/kCryM2MCMIvD4cG3goNHzJqvEE/QLP5wb3AE=; b=KSsOs1QH4BSMRTOqO2I64h8X0Q+sNVFCLZyAFY0jTDob1HEL2cfeBJG1cUPvV4/qNK H4oFUk/HYatIfzrE+5cETUpwZ24Z673MOa6g7uQql8nQaCnQ/ybx3eImwObhOZpFo6f+ qwVcYIb4eawSOIq8zvZA/dUoj+WKx7hlWdA1WIDXKmg7tU16WE6BKfz/T00Kjwc/kDko rIfUO1m3neQFc7glZVzh3SAVOiJbiWnT/2s7TWEyooz8nroK1BEwyNiBHsQuZfZ7t/H4 huispFXLSK6Mq0pWlyjEu8bEdnqLACwVnYNfvqHbfFxDSEYgdp4hphdskpueKbktMHph QKxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jFekKU/kCryM2MCMIvD4cG3goNHzJqvEE/QLP5wb3AE=; b=eij6j5VXcQ3HtfGt3zumeVuIbreXkmPrQg77EC1Z6MbnHNzBVG+XElFICOVFvq6e21 E1gnA124kCOl6MoF3BhPhefn6sfFtJJQEMFE6D/kTmOjUqO4XZ6dBnjdIOa4FZSyhSOQ aj6g6nWfGh3Dilyg5zFdVmWqELzmo9Pr4QjUyv4TMkFUeDUM2QjDajod2Qh/2KIG6vyI vbOAysdq+8wVcPjf4B/gCFCAAjdBSMk3UybSIf2tECT1MOhPqcd/PYg8V/iU//vZuc1S qaDZHwFFTwDvNRJlzC0MsoQU7H8YfDGOzycLeonl36XsCmIe5KRdH0kR0/SALJpL6OGG wwGA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUs7rKKqfjInVAaru73AZJrG6Zb5ucQ6WNLwDj344e3cIds3eI8 8VsZxqN8QtkUGihTftzlt7SzlieQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyIV4sQS2gH2zNB2GSJZP9EH6abbYvT4intjzzxfICZ6yzCtglLa3LeBsWfK/+G4yzu/OXKdQ== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4c11:: with SMTP id l17mr12098192otf.138.1567609452904; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars (cpe-70-114-192-208.austin.res.rr.com. [70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t18sm3333687otd.60.2019.09.04.08.04.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:04:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:56:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 16:56, Robert Pluim wrote: > I=CA=BCve spotted one possible problem: nsm-query runs even when the > connection is unencrypted, which ends up doing (insert nil), which > aborts the connection. Does the following help? (Lars, why is nsm > prompting for unencrypted connections?) > > diff --git a/lisp/net/nsm.el b/lisp/net/nsm.el > index 5e8381075b..7243ae8822 100644 > --- a/lisp/net/nsm.el > +++ b/lisp/net/nsm.el > @@ -788,7 +788,8 @@ nsm-check-plain-connection > (defun nsm-query (host port status what problems message) > ;; If there is no user to answer queries, then say `no' to everything. > (if (or noninteractive > - nsm-noninteractive) > + nsm-noninteractive > + (not status)) > nil > (let ((response > (condition-case nil nsm-query gets skipped now but the process is still killed (same message, etc). Thanks, Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 11:04:49 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 15:04:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wq0-0004eC-Mg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:04:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f45.google.com ([209.85.128.45]:34792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Wpx-0004dm-2m for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:04:45 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f45.google.com with SMTP id y135so2746484wmc.1 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZhyGetIEk02QYu5AYsoYobVyC9q9t+/Mk/92iB91Zh0=; b=Hzae+qjEqw5qmEq3cWUi1DU6KUCGsEGW4dkn81izfxrg2gdsAACVwco78UAUKzevph sFcQpOnQZmxmkdzkUD0PYKMd+RC/Qx4B+K5CaJGKsnqp8or2I7pW3CvoZRc2H1RgsEq8 yxIOsh90FucNjUbe8TQuIeK3SNGGwTxfDrKVzf3zrKS5AyFdowQwAJO0MC5HeBvmH7Cd BWKlv+X6Orz13P134LWG1a0icYBbKW00515rGDrSnqS3mlMxC+xEG/jyDOqcZbFaMbdO 2UR3/N+olJf9lWyrYc3tpCGZrfq22/4FxgVFoCbQ7UkZGncS9Go3dNDICbdS7ygY8NXZ 7fxQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZhyGetIEk02QYu5AYsoYobVyC9q9t+/Mk/92iB91Zh0=; b=lbwaePx414zYSp0fzIZJABzoIKRRdEytLdNaddbPP6jyiFsnve/wZ1hKDhL+T9Iewr 80v3wK0chjLgzS+hQ5ZiCRxvisD/TV+s28Ap0YJLrH6XpsRIc6PbEFsYceWD81iWTp7e 6IJJDHd8nBEKrxS3Yxl2sf46TxhIbl8+AKMxScSPjWdza221bQ3DjpYZIde6VY88o1Cd BPbdLLYKsgR2lwJW/4kn1qMA+ZoF+jr40Jw0IIfdIL7snYO+OLhlPLEyMlStaZfpwi5f 3D4Fhk+rD67p4yC43iVVpBrAM/VPFabMe0PI4HRD0KNcqnKbTPcQl4beVBthJpUYRJnO GFAg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXbCnhaHxn7arDHcPWD4FdV9+UfCm6XYByZGOPlwdqWfZnG6X/a YFe8j91wLeG/M/+z6vX/+ojc6yus X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxu2siEosdiXYUVN0kj4fOp5/UtyV+jgYn4f7UTx24jVWotUwEUssi30XEqXay2qb5JgwXkCA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f703:: with SMTP id v3mr4695910wmh.107.1567609478952; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m17sm22427056wrs.9.2019.09.04.08.04.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:04:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpccdk8.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:04:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87sgpccdk8.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:59:35 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:59:35 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> I=CA=BCve spotted one possible problem: nsm-query runs even when the >> connection is unencrypted, which ends up doing (insert nil), which >> aborts the connection. Does the following help? (Lars, why is nsm >> prompting for unencrypted connections?) Lars> It runs for all kinds of connections -- a non-encrypted one could= , for Lars> instance, be one that's a result of a downgrade attack. Lars> So if it now assumes that the connection is always encrypted, tha= t's a Lars> new bug. Hm... anybody know of a server that absolutely not doe= sn't Lars> have STARTTLS that I can test with? :-) Not quite. nsm-query-user assumes that status is non-nil, which is not the case in my test, which was imap to localhost. It never gets the chance to emit STARTTLS, since nsm has already killed the connection: (defun nsm-query-user (message status) (let ((buffer (get-buffer-create "*Network Security Manager*")) (cert-buffer (get-buffer-create "*Certificate Details*")) (certs (plist-get status :certificates))) (save-window-excursion ;; First format the certificate and warnings. (with-current-buffer-window buffer nil nil (insert (nsm-format-certificate status)) <=3D status is nil here, which gives us "(wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil)", which causes nsm-query to kill the connection. 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Does the following help? (Lars, why is nsm >> prompting for unencrypted connections?) >>=20 >> diff --git a/lisp/net/nsm.el b/lisp/net/nsm.el >> index 5e8381075b..7243ae8822 100644 >> --- a/lisp/net/nsm.el >> +++ b/lisp/net/nsm.el >> @@ -788,7 +788,8 @@ nsm-check-plain-connection >> (defun nsm-query (host port status what problems message) >> ;; If there is no user to answer queries, then say `no' to everythin= g. >> (if (or noninteractive >> - nsm-noninteractive) >> + nsm-noninteractive >> + (not status)) >> nil >> (let ((response >> (condition-case nil Alex> nsm-query gets skipped now but the process is still killed (same Alex> message, etc). Oh right, because now nsm-save-host doesn=CA=BCt get called. This should work instead of the previous patch (but is not the right solution, I think). You should get prompted by nsm now. diff --git a/lisp/net/nsm.el b/lisp/net/nsm.el index 5e8381075b..8750c19267 100644 --- a/lisp/net/nsm.el +++ b/lisp/net/nsm.el @@ -823,7 +823,7 @@ nsm-query-user ;; First format the certificate and warnings. (with-current-buffer-window buffer nil nil - (insert (nsm-format-certificate status)) + (when status (insert (nsm-format-certificate status))) (insert message) (goto-char (point-min)) ;; Fill the first line of the message, which usually From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 11:55:56 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 15:55:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5XdU-0005tP-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:55:56 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f54.google.com ([209.85.210.54]:40221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5XdT-0005tC-46 for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:55:55 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f54.google.com with SMTP id y39so11072732ota.7 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:55:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+c5ETQX27zOnGQSYLSDYoOaL+ibGIaClWfOrT0kFoz0=; b=mg96I1SY4eDOTXE3k5jLGGNc1lrjN9lrTasrPg3XZDzbZd/qW/Ryw1Jc41QYzjTtvg XZOuUF8Q2eEBz2m1/OMreXQMfyBeZ1a7FB6wGerugzNOp6b0Qp6IPo/nzVAamm2SscQh fqe/SvPylI7Lt1vpqVghNaDSHj/4H13RPXRa8su465Ft0pe/PvNpv/WccBhEDacZoNeY 73LH/2vWjBvREMKg1oRb9Dfh45sf50/ZLP3glfDbSI7bbyRY5DDKcGNKCXuJX8D5QMjk z3OA6SYIR3x1PkPljQP5kurXDmIT5a5XAVSY25Qx7BjZAlsmgFv1ajFluOUZSuan9A7V xAyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+c5ETQX27zOnGQSYLSDYoOaL+ibGIaClWfOrT0kFoz0=; b=laYfUY6qSXqRemc1d0s+DfUThILwcAFuiK7Ri/aO01PhQ1aCdeREbf3W7ev1Mz4KPN UYULeCDqGpxn+rBLknYWWNpblO2K2PF8f2suMIyUSywcMjxNePAkm5/P5+t5FYjaIXhq TjWVO40RfwmSh6DSEZiwYEzs7hi7+USV52GHxDCba14isqFyfTJ4Bge2vbJohH125G3a 4i1T5OXIQP7NbAEPXOpRnC5eMN9IpZQlz4hnevORJrz7YWi3UK1A/elr7i9Ky93i6eP6 kXr+TCmh4+Ddj9zexRVP2UiiQ+KyDDy99Cx8eUCdljCwxWj99HtVlzuozVgPxCDihoHR hq0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV7T+6CflxbSSlWg9D/7zqgS9VnFUUCmWIUpOHOVRbBp6zaZ1Yh 8qtMhmhbU0rGNCyMZjq+MQGYPium X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzMlpba1EngbQWcgvuRVtTwqxDWnph6qi0d8vvJuc0O4DxEtgmmyxubtmqBZvSEjiw09hVjvA== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:774d:: with SMTP id t13mr30620708otl.277.1567612549200; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars (cpe-70-114-192-208.austin.res.rr.com. [70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q21sm2016107otm.31.2019.09.04.08.55.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:55:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:25:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 17:25, Robert Pluim wrote: > Oh right, because now nsm-save-host doesn=CA=BCt get called. This should > work instead of the previous patch (but is not the right > solution, I think). You should get prompted by nsm now. Yes, now I get prompted about the unencrypted connection and it works. Thanks, Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 13:00:32 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 17:00:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Ye0-0007r5-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:00:32 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f42.google.com ([209.85.221.42]:43428) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Ydx-0007ql-Mx for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:00:30 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f42.google.com with SMTP id y8so22047702wrn.10 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xyp5VIUd9ISiFgJztvG9PkwWHbG1vV9XDU/t2+1tV8E=; b=EK38P3aH03wT7SQgcGYV69i5sGcMPKY2qa1YywTbOdHayP2W6vunGq5Hjjsfog+07U Cliq0kIYlcx5OukPWiA1axyrg9TVk5EQllGTKC9D1ZWfN2xXK0tNqzM06gLyudS85bMw 8m3jU66Lg2Oruy/Rkym2Pc1mD+/LuRH4ztKk5ztL6jQOlvey1iaO9On/ILm6WUMDfjlc HTkY4R8ZcpiV4Gyx5+DyYsvAF67txcJ2QujS4txAGFlXy5e1RZgSerJsrIosS6DbCu5y H6INgNrAxaWHW4gnS8QUh4gpaEkYSfwXP1QHsTVX2lW+A+CojmI6D4COyzgjGgPn2W8u GSQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xyp5VIUd9ISiFgJztvG9PkwWHbG1vV9XDU/t2+1tV8E=; b=VSNDpvagw20BimDBEWrTI0QgPskw+NelGRf9Mv1DFuidnIu90khCD4Vlyq6/iVr34c Am3rcwj7/5oTUIrgOvP8RoNijm3m462NF1x0E5J5BNvZGKMJFX+SpZcSHc8wz6kUmh/F oF4Wt2nGeBRlU3uXH+Z0nJ7vWtUpF8rIE789sD9mlR6IHGtjhc+dxhHvWLCi82sWfkP7 GZ22ekHg/gHxFXtxYEu946n1YbhrONc3I4vfn3BoXRVH+Xray5it1Bcxh1fnQfAYAOES /V4YtljgA1BiZxPPsa8ZgSA+lTAmhJC/8OK1Bl6GdH9AB36Ij0FsWmkRsS+6JYCDtX4d qapw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW+R6QXVeMzzlMjmYZefjwmjIAKF5hozx2pXgpT5OpCfr5WsLQ8 GDlEzPiVEdjSTEM67dAtBqkbal17 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzyCAinuMRkIfA183gEgjE8V7wHy0Qnd08tNCe28gIv69IE2NJ/Dc1PQ8Bjz4gx7Erb0ZW76A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f991:: with SMTP id f17mr47288433wrr.233.1567616423074; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:cc92:661d:7c8d:3737]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x17sm3415829wmj.19.2019.09.04.10.00.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:00:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:55:46 -0500") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:55:46 -0500, Alex Branham said: Alex> On Wed 04 Sep 2019 at 17:25, Robert Pluim wrot= e: >> Oh right, because now nsm-save-host doesn=CA=BCt get called. This sh= ould >> work instead of the previous patch (but is not the right >> solution, I think). You should get prompted by nsm now. Alex> Yes, now I get prompted about the unencrypted connection and it w= orks. Thanks for testing. Lars, I don=CA=BCt think nsm should be prompting for a never-seen-before unencrypted connection, only for a previously encrypted downgraded connection? Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 13:06:32 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 17:06:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Yjn-00081z-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:06:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:45654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Yjm-00081p-7N for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:06:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Yjh-00059N-Dj; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:06:27 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:06:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:00:19 +0200") Message-ID: <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > Thanks for testing. Lars, I donʼt think nsm should be prompting for a > never-seen-before unencrypted connection, only for a previously > encrypted downgraded connection? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Thanks for testing. Lars, I don=CA=BCt think nsm should be prompting for a > never-seen-before unencrypted connection, only for a previously > encrypted downgraded connection? That depends on the settings, I think? In `paranoid' it probably should, and if it's an IMAP connection, it definitely should even on `medium'. Or is taking care of not sending passwords over non-encrypted connections done somewhere else now? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 13:21:33 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 17:21:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5YyL-0008Rh-85 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:21:33 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f52.google.com ([209.85.221.52]:43020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5YyI-0008RP-Q4 for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:21:32 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id y8so22116304wrn.10 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7PRW+tH66uJx3GSBTxii1mr5k96+6EiWWPBv2r67tCA=; b=lYk/sz+74AOkHKKnwGv3uKL8N7vLU7ljQABaQC4EAWcv5cbqggp6T6fQlj614/sfQT W0BrTJYuEk/D4RrdN7Oxmo1qus641Vnzu0AaT91CfZ6mNiuCFhp/g9kQEMbNrIcY1OJp Drd5A0Mu/PTuF82IyYJvBrSpEacJhlTZt7fN243NJvP5Jb4uub7Xy1mkoyNHDV3z10gi LZI6Nh38f6BWC9v4uv/EOpg9iU1CKHckYJqZIC99mwc7BgdZWBK7Xgi08SXsMZJ2ou8s aggiGaY3WwtjhhlDHz6mtHa0RCQa1gVpPqJKHCag68gGRV5OdcyngVUCGRq7wvcgydLf vrjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7PRW+tH66uJx3GSBTxii1mr5k96+6EiWWPBv2r67tCA=; b=hneUtll5Ed1HcAjbDtWK8/zmaQCnKEmFJy6WXBf+6CrJcJlZUo3YzEpox8F2nnsEh/ 8oPOyX28OKrYZRcV58cAzPSU/zgtzDxvs4/m76x+Gm4pxnF00iSVLmLcp4FV2CSV/xfK H7pXwhz7cBQkXUyZIkDodu6kCO54yY8JOq6rbZ62Nyz8F8AccWW6ZTjCtiIlj/KPwM/O TwmXKCXeDWIMYMUD8/iHKfBlJ5jqZ8pHrkxOYTw1SiLJ5tec7tiNYYbzNKTxYxYqBcph 2wQtQ807FTFIaADVS27VXRnteIFElpKqKzNjaCv1W6lT32natcnYTlNIQI5KamsqoYLD CR4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUg0FshTaiK3ab8MoWv+MUlzCFXKcgBXsYRcBakz3RGBXwgzn/r zq5XmX2HEsRQMJYU1Xt3kLR0dTAe X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxXVyZ0LmHoKzDEYkrq7AKAd8srj7h125lh6Vux2ZvPoPnVxR9dFv/Fzu/dhPshwqsLUebiCQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ef44:: with SMTP id c4mr28239611wrp.216.1567617684614; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:cc92:661d:7c8d:3737]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p85sm4613855wme.23.2019.09.04.10.21.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:21:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:06:24 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:06:24 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> Thanks for testing. Lars, I don=CA=BCt think nsm should be prompting= for a >> never-seen-before unencrypted connection, only for a previously >> encrypted downgraded connection? Lars> That depends on the settings, I think? In `paranoid' it probably Lars> should, and if it's an IMAP connection, it definitely should even= on Lars> `medium'. Even when the user has said '(nnimap-stream plain)'? That=CA=BCs a very explicit request not to do STARTTLS. Lars> Or is taking care of not sending passwords over non-encrypted Lars> connections done somewhere else now? Not that I know of. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 13:24:35 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 17:24:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Z1G-00005b-Nt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:24:35 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:45888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Z1E-00005Q-IH for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:24:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5Z1B-0005Ib-1O; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:24:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:24:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:21:21 +0200") Message-ID: <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > Even when the user has said '(nnimap-stream plain)'? Thatʼs a very > explicit request not to do STARTTLS. Let's see... Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Even when the user has said '(nnimap-stream plain)'? That=CA=BCs a very > explicit request not to do STARTTLS. Let's see... (open-network-stream "*nnimap*" (current-buffer) nnimap-address (nnimap-map-port (car ports)) :type nnimap-stream :warn-unless-encrypted t So it should always warn, no matter what the type is. Here's the call back to the NSM: (defun network-stream-open-plain (name buffer host service parameters) [...] (when (plist-get parameters :warn-unless-encrypted) (setq stream (nsm-verify-connection stream host service nil t))) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 15:30:13 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 19:30:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5ayr-0003O1-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:30:13 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:51634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5ayp-0003Mr-Sf for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:30:12 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id k1so53176wmi.1 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LHBwKoRwX3IZA6gSxqGKGwXN/hRp1a8tcRUXGUaN9mI=; b=kueHg3ubRRVYo1vAdeKhK2xa7wjQdDdQ/5kIS9by6mkg/kChQdAbTr4pHiTW8+D/xV TJheL2Z5Mdv290+Ser9RsoZWYJpwbW/eIddaoYC1RpOBGwFVlsen4tdo/KKsu5QvUtG0 7A3nYdBZpXXpNrRPrKdQ+OqjzZe15DaRTAAPjGgphUSMKtJkZIrfYKqFHPYrRICPwoav TVm5S8KOwt9GQ5HYBx078KnSsiTmRd2bMOmQ8TUmy9vY2JjGgDDsKgFVc9KLEbOasH/Y xyRcRiMZcfB8hcmE8enzv9YiuUJStvVLHt5f+6zEO9BEENjI8wl3Rwlg7cfBXcrTGBGn MNcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LHBwKoRwX3IZA6gSxqGKGwXN/hRp1a8tcRUXGUaN9mI=; b=s1XEz4Y4WD2spPNcuD/8Djofo5x023SM4xiVuIc8qpbqVaB16wwk6MqKu/4bZ0J96I sIGdxmXaiS9jjx7n2eMEy/IAbuSf5ittTko8Xpiz5WvnlZWz8nYyg+e29AZF6ywIUxQZ YWZEyGJyaYbFeYLRtuxNBdG2uZ5brYCC0omkZr9Ark8G4N09pW5NXFBc7s8Vce65SLfx uENMY80TpZ9u30+ZAQUogT084vwjgcTeadntWrSH+SxtjOryiAU2NRVnNYGbkNX1gnfP zjQLueNERIXi8ADuCSQiVvUML7vQLrFpv5ZPah7dZyJZHcCybZy+wqzEwRDfde5AEupY 9mpw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVtnEOROiphr5SxkerzYoFNlApTV2GqbhLRrHlQGJQZuChn1PCV yQYJ99TSXm0ruvMty1H9ZNTsGnzw X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxvbuj/Pg7WDryd+IVftwRqOMXfWsHmDxYNRy0+eTvRDg+MFD52Pk3sukMJ0swsvylHw+OBqA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e709:: with SMTP id e9mr5894443wmh.65.1567625405172; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:cc92:661d:7c8d:3737]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c6sm37628386wrb.60.2019.09.04.12.30.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:30:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:24:28 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 19:24:28 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> Even when the user has said '(nnimap-stream plain)'? That=CA=BCs a v= ery >> explicit request not to do STARTTLS. Lars> Let's see... Lars> (open-network-stream Lars> "*nnimap*" (current-buffer) nnimap-address Lars> (nnimap-map-port (car ports)) Lars> :type nnimap-stream Lars> :warn-unless-encrypted t Lars> So it should always warn, no matter what the type is. Here's the= call Lars> back to the NSM: Lars> (defun network-stream-open-plain (name buffer host service parame= ters) Lars> [...] Lars> (when (plist-get parameters :warn-unless-encrypted) Lars> (setq stream (nsm-verify-connection stream host service nil= t))) OK. In that case perhaps I should push the following: >From 2972228d4761a1bf5682dfd361c5f916704c9222 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Robert Pluim Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:25:32 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Make sure nntp connections always use TLS To: emacs-devel@gnu.org --- lisp/gnus/nntp.el | 1 + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+) diff --git a/lisp/gnus/nntp.el b/lisp/gnus/nntp.el index 49aa6ab144..09512488fb 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/nntp.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/nntp.el @@ -1263,6 +1263,7 @@ nntp-open-connection :type (cadr (assoc nntp-open-connection-function map)) :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP\r\n" + :warn-unless-encrypted t :success "^3" :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) --=20 2.23.0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 15:37:11 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 19:37:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5b5b-0003YV-A5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:11 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:47252) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5b5Z-0003YK-1W for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:09 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5b5U-0006Be-Oh; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:37:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:37:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:30:00 +0200") Message-ID: <877e6nvonz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > OK. In that case perhaps I should push the following: > >>From 2972228d4761a1bf5682dfd361c5f916704c9222 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:2 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > OK. In that case perhaps I should push the following: > >>>From 2972228d4761a1bf5682dfd361c5f916704c9222 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:25:32 +0100 > Subject: [PATCH] Make sure nntp connections always use TLS [...] > :type (cadr (assoc nntp-open-connection-function map)) > :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" > :capability-command "HELP\r\n" > + :warn-unless-encrypted t No, nntp connections are commonly without passwords, so warning about them being non-encrypted usually isn't helpful. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 16:37:22 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 20:37:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5c1p-0005DX-UI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:37:22 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f45.google.com ([209.85.128.45]:38791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5c1n-0005DI-VY for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:37:20 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f45.google.com with SMTP id o184so229079wme.3 for <37221@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rRPcOFbo3lcUKotkkiTcwT1VEHGdaL/4xe67MUgYLqQ=; b=I8qHALehpFp/48kb8s3HsCzhl3ghSKtYfwrumIAYOihK7NyrKaYBW3tzNx+G4iQ1XB JvZhkuLOT5nnihrRunKa20wLA4dh8LUWYzKbN7DEXgllH8T80zVklO1i86CZcPyk2BmR gjZ1waPS1kpYs8t0BhXoBZOBtu4dkw/lGs2djySBd95aav4iutMEQcU74a7b8eJmQhXG 1XX3jkaaOhwmQnL8VoEpcNk37gjoCwOxIHDo0e78WgFr8/dj5kEvzB+zf0MXlDxR9oRo vbPEiHxlQ0zaCFUAg1CukpPQYKhO7+paSuQl2pOwTCvHIV611B9gM+++P5Ih/sGKN8SJ rFCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rRPcOFbo3lcUKotkkiTcwT1VEHGdaL/4xe67MUgYLqQ=; b=moOu+aIjCB9UvWKw3B4R1cW7Mu3IofTwUFRmCE1UoUFqKbmheDol2V/XA+ATM5tkZe qgUMSlF5z2IbbhE2C+CHvHmHXQE6HNfyLxw64a0ob2fC62XV+Y+Oz37YmAcSogCeJsz8 lpShjWM9vjrOHsyszcV150Zb9rvjaShtP4kAerGSZP+50ZcU6gBwPU1BkSSX8huf84ER zvWt7o6hxCXb9YwRj0ddCPl0+KD1ia+j86g/5EcZ0IgQTvL/Op3ToNoXvsnNCbkFDG4Y 1o/kR2wD2v3Aed2c4vHMk10Pcqglu4rG1UpQ0EjatX3k6MpZLV6+0/DjyVVeEVEvrfZM fZXw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU6zOxVU7F/KgQITzx4dNCQCgRXPK4LIo33bbfpFqSF54YDbEuc jhWYgf4WWd/q/NxH1ivywk+w4t27lzo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzxLMLHkQcxVp2fDCOLbajRQYVA+9MP6gAY1CQLgshS3Sywjl23+NI5jUyzzryBoD2mjoc41Q== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:a90b:: with SMTP id s11mr138472wme.92.1567629433341; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:cc92:661d:7c8d:3737]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f23sm130824wmb.11.2019.09.04.13.37.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> <877e6nvonz.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:37:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877e6nvonz.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:37:04 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 21:37:04 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> OK. In that case perhaps I should push the following: >>=20 >>> From 2972228d4761a1bf5682dfd361c5f916704c9222 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2= 001 >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:25:32 +0100 >> Subject: [PATCH] Make sure nntp connections always use TLS Lars> [...] >> :type (cadr (assoc nntp-open-connection-function map)) >> :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" >> :capability-command "HELP\r\n" >> + :warn-unless-encrypted t Lars> No, nntp connections are commonly without passwords, so warning a= bout Lars> them being non-encrypted usually isn't helpful. Speak for yourself :-) I=CA=BCll keep it locally. I guess we should just add the check for status being nil in nsm-query-user then. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 16:41:56 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 20:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34371 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5c6G-0005KW-Fd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:41:56 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:48070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5c6D-0005KN-Vl for 37221@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:41:54 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i5c6A-0006cQ-6p; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:41:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> <877e6nvonz.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:41:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:37:06 +0200") Message-ID: <8736hbvlo2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > I guess we should just add the check for status being nil in > nsm-query-user then. I think so. 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I think so. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 17:49:53 2019 Received: (at 37221) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2019 21:49:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5dA1-0007Cg-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:49:53 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f47.google.com ([209.85.221.47]:40646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5d9z-0007CO-DM; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 17:49:52 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f47.google.com with SMTP id w13so352386wru.7; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=oDvAjSKINWW+tO6AYTMrD4pFWwlum4iZ/TXeIEf7EKA=; b=lcqYpS/88EDqTbijK2GdQtpDGsOTAGA3oh0ZE1zuCRZ9Y6ymcDSF3P+062SNsULbhz GPeX3Nv3zIASUt8/0bjsn5MZVhvhiCkoUE5kiWrtNqZHwAODGAYAc9M4v5AYoQeHFTZW +X5XZK2e7zv22jFdOzYJZbhBQPD3U2tzoZsP3BOyKmW3JxgL9EjNQKEuLF3iyh0GpsaB 0te3LCN/MmPCv0BE4eLiirOhOX44v0Y1NX3hmtDQcj9tSTwGApr+FKzLkMQxLTtJgtAh 2ZJEHEXJZdCumKVcucai3R6vryltOsrn4dc1JlxdSN2r6J6oVqVRbhogE9+fuqZnwUao bsmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=oDvAjSKINWW+tO6AYTMrD4pFWwlum4iZ/TXeIEf7EKA=; b=ol1UUtC7/Q9jiW2gzRhKLkCg1ZmyFm6KrNwzFzWHAOmUGRBTr1bqL5SosiW1wg4z0y ST3aoj613KOgr+uxa7JYHOXVJ5FwAtfACfNqSZSFhx7a9qYyNNTxLPTgv1eXfLm31Y/L TZ1uwOr9e2ILhLH5Kw2iEAhc0PpqMVbp1lxB32RYKkl9rpbXmMHxGWlJ4nXEivgOEjEk FbjKCOeEnGsAiVHdiQtiyRVnt1B2ber7n0VfJ8l/Jmdlxs1bRskk9s6v1Tm4VQcL7hmF LHrZ+8sr6yvNq6NMSwP3+bgtg+h0TYt0DclWjeZ7U5IQ1D+y1OuX+Duf9FWvosFRdhtX pRfw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXp3kuedhhhRXyrQxNSa3rr2nasOgL/RPwy27urSAjX7AB/CG54 nc+g2k0INCM/msb5qMG3gplzSPZTRwA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwzHOdXvDlRdljH+rt9a5yTr1wpV8llV7RelYa8ie6+XfbhlmdgR0aeBZPNABN2srUQ9vNScg== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6703:: with SMTP id o3mr11150200wru.335.1567633785120; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 14:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:1dfb:5362:e654:3f4c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c6sm179510wrb.60.2019.09.04.14.49.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 14:49:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#37221: 27.0.50; gnus fails to open connection post-NSM update References: <87k1avgbb8.fsf@gmail.com> <871rwxfd7w.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgpcdx0p.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftlcdvxh.fsf@gnus.org> <87h85sduuw.fsf@gmail.com> <87v9u8cdck.fsf@gmail.com> <87r24wcayl.fsf@gmail.com> <87o900c7ov.fsf@gnus.org> <87k1aoc6ur.fsf@gnus.org> <877e6nvonz.fsf@gnus.org> <8736hbvlo2.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 23:49:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8736hbvlo2.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:41:49 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37221 Cc: 37221@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 37221 fixed close 37221 27.1 quit >>>>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:41:49 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> I guess we should just add the check for status being nil in >> nsm-query-user then. Lars> I think so. Done. Closing. Committed as fc9ed61a43 Robert From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:50:22 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator