From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:51:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37146: 26.2; (elisp) Interactive Codes, for `K' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 37146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.156648886223630 (code B ref -1); Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:48:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 15:47:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pJO-000694-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:47:42 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42024) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pJM-00068w-6w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:47:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54873) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pJK-0006ZO-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:47:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pJJ-0007fJ-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:47:38 -0400 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:38024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pJI-0007cU-NI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:47:37 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7MFhnpp148056 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:47:32 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=8lcZ6MkmrBtnBPaHfRbKccLsaCMJIDfyefwLQdgIocs=; b=SfEAaxzVJ03XZg1CCmS/6EEffaC1P9jbJONT0MA/HY6G4nK16lZbCKulAS8jqAiIfw63 RtLPfV4Mdv5Qo7aEDZgNQxMo6DvRyIJoL+ZwKP79gbdJYW/IDFau4508wBflD8rCzJCq 8GDU6cmpvXQhmGCkXKsHcLBQ0Edd693P/jXWy6jDCp7x4LucGbheUPlCTrXxUo8/MPpm KCY4JIPokEJuUtm5L7aO8ztnciCIs2hw4xAuYZ705jY4G+utXyUPbIR78ZkR485fos6/ 7XZ+YEMSoLgnoOxYBAqxgirrBqYFQB5D+OFReOm1x4jihxzp0i/VLGD5PpoLeidHtMBg GQ== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2uea7r6p82-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:47:31 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7MFh4DN104366 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:45:31 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2uhusen5mk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:45:31 +0000 Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x7MFjUCJ002258 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:45:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9356 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908220152 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9356 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908220152 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.85 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) This is what it says: 'K' A key sequence, whose definition you intend to change. This works like 'k', except that it suppresses, for the last input event in the key sequence, the conversions that are normally used (when necessary) to convert an undefined key into a defined one. That's inadequate. In this node you have no idea what "the conversions that are normally used (when necessary) to convert an undefined key into a defined one" are, or even what that phrase means. Either such conversions need to be described here or, if they are described in some other node then please add a cross-reference to that node. Otherwise, there is no way for us to understand what `K' is/does. I couldn't even find a description of such conversion by starting with the parent node and searching for "conve". But I don't claim to have studied the full context of each search hit. In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:51:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37146: 26.2; (elisp) Interactive Codes, for `K' Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 23:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 37146-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37146.156651705925953 (code B ref 37146); Thu, 22 Aug 2019 23:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 37146) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 23:37:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0weB-0006kX-4w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:37:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0we9-0006kJ-5Q for 37146@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:37:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0we3-0005ZR-M4; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:37:31 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i0we0-00051X-1k; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:37:28 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT)) References: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:37:28 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > A key sequence, whose definition you intend to change. This works > like 'k', except that it suppresses, for the last input event in > the key sequence, the conversions that are normally used (when > necessary) to convert an undefined key into a defined one. > That's inadequate. In this node you have no idea what "the conversions > that are normally used (when necessary) to convert an undefined key into > a defined one" are, or even what that phrase means. To explain that here would be too much duolication. A reference to the Lisp manual would perhaps be worth it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:51:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37146: 26.2; (elisp) Interactive Codes, for `K' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37146-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37146.156652385114991 (code B ref 37146); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 37146) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2019 01:30:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0yPj-0003ti-0E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:30:51 -0400 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:54866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0yPg-0003tT-IK for 37146@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:30:49 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7N1T7Bk057636; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:30:42 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=Sc1lLjZvLr+XaALS7XQ3tcH2gdeAec9NKK7JpXsrR+A=; b=Iqd34erP99cs/IB163fUZATtX++vVNakNOlmZ28w0tWj7OfRO0BZEDxNEySkiA/QbrsR E9jckDPtiyDC1FDjvlAvUXe8jSF63HGVweWGwti+GXH/LwtL/NGoB6LEHRcmcAYsDLvY DxH5i5Ze0mmUmjhzOQ+fjlk3LfCoNGVp4Ikg2p56lshYzMboEGgBjFyvlSXmbHmlcebR ZeCqACodr3+owCHNf4KRQFKuG2AAzh22ikoQdvBR2qAU7v6ZnObzib3BkniddE54Pl59 lfi078NW+LLVjY88HIStd1v++koZ01+uJy/uHc39x8gbCWx9gxGuviEMNiTFIPWCJIzF ig== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2uea7r9exh-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:30:42 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x7N1T6nP153294; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:30:42 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2uh83qrh8q-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:30:42 +0000 Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x7N1UdEW029373; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:30:41 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:30:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9357 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908230013 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9357 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908230013 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > That's inadequate. In this node you have no idea what "the > > conversions that are normally used (when necessary) to > > convert an undefined key into a defined one" are, or even > > what that phrase means. >=20 > To explain that here would be too much duolication. > A reference to the Lisp manual would perhaps be worth it. Yes, that's would be great. But this _is_ the Lisp manual. And I'm not sure the doc to link to exists. I hope it does, or it will be added. I guess perhaps the conversions mentioned are those=20 described in (elisp) `Key Sequence Input' for function `read-key-sequence'. But I'm not sure that's what's meant. It's also not clear to me what is meant by "whose definition you intend to change". How so? That seems to be a description of the ` use case (or main use case?) of `K' (as opposed to `k'), but it's not clear to me what that's about. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:51:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37146: 26.2; (elisp) Interactive Codes, for `K' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 37146-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37146.162377491726861 (code B ref 37146); Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 37146) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2021 16:35:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC20-0006z8-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:35:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC1y-0006yn-Io for 37146@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:35:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RC0kzMGYAPGmVW30E88XcVn1pKeKfDvQ431NkrPw9gg=; b=evq0TvtRDwqRHRInjQnM/mGNXI KnU0hq+cqAkxO3xGWimyoU1CaAhLR8KMunau3mrSpjT7p5hGPP5oh4KAqT6WiDMM+1j6yXJhHKhgC /Ld85/P9Dxo9OVnTxMl2YN9vHCoyRqBysHmLFHjdHxzJ3QMc6H7F1PGlgdxKMWZcwdu4=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC1p-0002P7-PY; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:35:08 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: X-Now-Playing: Nobukazu Takemura's _The Quest is a Reward_: "Hoping For The Sun (Dew Drop Mix)" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:35:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87fsxjrsqw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > This is what it says: > > 'K' > A key sequence, whose definition you intend to change. This works > like 'k', except that it suppresses, for the last input event in > the key sequence, the conversio [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Drew Adams writes: > This is what it says: > > 'K' > A key sequence, whose definition you intend to change. This works > like 'k', except that it suppresses, for the last input event in > the key sequence, the conversions that are normally used (when > necessary) to convert an undefined key into a defined one. > > That's inadequate. In this node you have no idea what "the conversions > that are normally used (when necessary) to convert an undefined key into > a defined one" are, or even what that phrase means. Yes, it's pretty obscure. I've now changed this to the following in Emacs 28: @item K A key sequence on a form that can be used as input to functions like @code{define-key}. This works like @samp{k}, except that it suppresses, for the last input event in the key sequence, the conversions that are normally used (when necessary) to convert an undefined key into a defined one (@pxref{Key Sequence Input}), so this form is usually used when prompting for a new key sequence that is to be bound to a command. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 15 12:36:48 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2021 16:36:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50606 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC3U-00071N-5x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:36:48 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53094) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC3T-00071A-3i for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:36:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=f3efRDOIrJ9yQYSaqRHKN1eyWYkgLw8URDWwL2gkHsw=; b=oIswct/e87X6n2l7nwT0/XlU7j 7tXpVCbmb31PVN/17DZ/rKH3v152alLwuIBUXZyvCo0T4qR+jLk6ZxCTls/YcPBvojycJYYbyzDqq GL3Q81t37q1i/6GoPoLU2JxC4USxXLZZyoBN5mUFkEgf9j+RLpePq3KzvfTs1b9w4S9Q=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltC3L-0002Pa-PE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:36:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:36:39 +0200 Message-Id: <87eed3rso8.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #37146 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 37146 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) close 37146 28.1 quit From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:51:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#37146: 26.2; (elisp) Interactive Codes, for `K' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 37146-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37146.16237761734873 (code B ref 37146); Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 37146) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2021 16:56:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltCMH-0001GW-9D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:56:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35768) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltCMF-0001GJ-NT for 37146@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:56:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35276) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltCMA-0008Jj-Bf; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:56:06 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1123 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltCM6-00089D-BU; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:56:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 19:56:03 +0300 Message-Id: <835yyf3w4c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87fsxjrsqw.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:35:03 +0200) References: <87fsxjrsqw.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:35:03 +0200 > Cc: 37146@debbugs.gnu.org > > A key sequence on a form that can be used as input to functions like ^^^^^^^^^ That sounds wrong to me. What does it mean "on a form"? Did you mean "of a form"? 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Syd)" Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 10:15:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835yyf3w4c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 2021 19:56:03 +0300") Message-ID: <87czsmql6v.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> A key sequence on a form that can be used as input to functions like > ^^^^^^^^^ > That sounds wrong to me. What does it mean "on a form"? Did you mean > "of a form"? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> A key sequence on a form that can be used as input to functions like > ^^^^^^^^^ > That sounds wrong to me. What does it mean "on a form"? Did you mean > "of a form"? Uhm... possibly? Perhaps it should be reformulated completely. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no