From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 09:13:36 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 13:13:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0muF-0004If-NE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:13:35 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0muC-0004IW-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:13:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33911) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0muB-000441-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:13:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0mu7-0006Fm-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:13:28 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f176.google.com ([209.85.210.176]:45825) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0mu5-0006DY-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:13:27 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f176.google.com with SMTP id w26so3923701pfq.12 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZjB2UKdiV9EYQmYhkyFDPG1/uTTo4gZiaTNh065pSVo=; b=WtnKmrpm7Y1km3ioOU7sJV2g8ujsl+l0hE2BuDPmduh1YOjTY2xaYb/ZXrU70nsC1E qq4LXNG7jO6+YAox7fH5SP39AGeaPpvkb7CZtOKNSIiz6ITxU/F+iUgcYZpBPMUKQvSp 9I6Re8V17aisXbW90s9M5IJhC9I03ATH6CfAEMZSmE1Ye0EtAAtXvtiQp6yg8/zSxFB9 WV0eY65+3WGd9TTikOX8C+JEbT6/eko4KNOroXiDxgkqSuRHCMthpy5nZ8PZ3hbvr3U2 soqaxuU03HwSGDuWWEr0Xo7YaWAkjbzspHvwL8gLxxzSsiNmksom2ngbGPW/WZMqzbAJ Esug== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVnJFHwqoQL4JsgiKyyeN9EAkeNE6zJd6t/UDcgxjDZC3lVfKEy m7kq4UcnivdU/8QLmNAaXt06hZPnizPGpqX9EC+8VcozvRk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxl5zycKZxmmhx/L8KS2coXyOVjvY8/fWBmFuBI2YUMMypOu1MZicNyje18tI9fPseEjdhHgvF7tqotJEMiLC0= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9552:: with SMTP id w18mr40641910pfq.107.1566479603588; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 06:13:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:13:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Confusing message in FAQ: "This version has been heavily edited" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.210.176 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) In the FAQ on Emacs 26.2, it says: > This is the version of the FAQ distributed with Emacs 26.2, > and mainly describes that version. But it also says further down: > [This version has been heavily edited since it was > included in the Emacs distribution.] I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that line make sense in a released version? Thanks, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 09:36:11 2019 Received: (at 37142) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 13:36:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nG6-0004s0-Pj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:36:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32962) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nG5-0004rn-L2 for 37142@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:36:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nG0-0006vf-Di; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:36:04 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3243 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nFz-0002sB-Mh; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:36:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:36:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83h869cofm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:13:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#37142: Confusing message in FAQ: "This version has been heavily edited" References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37142 Cc: 37142@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:13:12 +0200 > > > [This version has been heavily edited since it was > > included in the Emacs distribution.] > > I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that line make sense in a > released version? So as not to imply that the people mentioned in the Copyright lines above that are solely responsible for the contents, I presume. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 10:10:24 2019 Received: (at 37142) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 14:10:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38035 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nnE-0007ym-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:24 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]:38640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nnC-0007ya-Uo for 37142@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:23 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f175.google.com with SMTP id w11so3076781plp.5 for <37142@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:10:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fhGwTPccwjGPamekRAnalD6tKocVwDvkFJT4KJXB7DA=; b=iPXd2zdbCV2ZvaxM8ZQ63LNNQjBtuO+Q5LAU8ccWKNq4vINK1ErZlOpKwK4/aZ2MMP 9Zfi9dHp0+zJXblxLqX6bBVGEcj3g3kqwR3QCoKhCpHq7SQ+wdgzknc4UUIlUMLy952Q mZmS9bYk7SR21VXfXfBiN7lWVTzEYbn0sDcQl2VyNo/Zr7zwmCFXASdUltnh676xmMFW DVXptHn1E/RmcICw/YB6B5il2uNR7tqt/8S45cJiL47pvG3TKcrXhukxxJwHWtgb9kWw ylYu/GXXLMASVqDbAleyugU9DU3yb7pXEbNN2OTE9qV21Mtm2CmLCqTFOYNdG25Ub1Io IBbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlUpp0ufZkyYMpyFzHK2UCC0r//xjxtzT6IyR7+UlejHap3gCt ZSHA/yNZRfLfglOBqzXv3yzyMlSgF364FBi/678= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqysfhWHSFqIek5KbwFsM+dOe+MPBfPWnM/5KSfJFYJ4sRiSP69snOxLf+la++lDW+eXJ+rJ47CaTwr5oGAeUQg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b687:: with SMTP id c7mr4121220pls.128.1566483017197; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:10:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83h869cofm.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83h869cofm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#37142: Confusing message in FAQ: "This version has been heavily edited" To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37142 Cc: 37142@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > [This version has been heavily edited since it was > > > included in the Emacs distribution.] > > > > I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that line make sense in a > > released version? > > So as not to imply that the people mentioned in the Copyright lines > above that are solely responsible for the contents, I presume. Ah, now I understand. Maybe I'm unusually slow, but could we please clarify that by adding "in the year 2000" after "included in the Emacs distribution"? Thanks, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 10:34:18 2019 Received: (at 37142) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 14:34:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38078 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0oAM-0002En-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:34:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0oAK-0002Ea-KV for 37142@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:34:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0oAF-0006Aj-49; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:34:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2932 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i0oAE-0005vH-HX; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:34:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 17:34:19 +0300 Message-Id: <834l29clqs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:10:05 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#37142: Confusing message in FAQ: "This version has been heavily edited" References: <83h869cofm.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37142 Cc: 37142@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:10:05 +0200 > Cc: 37142@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > [This version has been heavily edited since it was > > > > included in the Emacs distribution.] > > > > > > I'm not sure how to interpret that. Does that line make sense in a > > > released version? > > > > So as not to imply that the people mentioned in the Copyright lines > > above that are solely responsible for the contents, I presume. > > Ah, now I understand. Maybe I'm unusually slow, but could we please > clarify that by adding "in the year 2000" after "included in the Emacs > distribution"? Sure, why not? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 11:49:39 2019 Received: (at 37142) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 15:49:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pLH-0006E7-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:49:39 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com ([209.85.210.177]:32992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0pLF-0006Dl-L0 for 37142@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:49:38 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id g2so4246976pfq.0 for <37142@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9Bbi3vP7VKL2089P6OiiDeW6K3a6QbSrSy4EVYbQgR0=; b=hyT1pVvd2V7abphsjDnQF99Ld8ZjsWoYNlA9e140YoqkQyTFExB9H3OX6ucyB+cn72 8pnSHkuJgUv5OnNOJL4CiuWPQMFwMysaCeB3c3dKrYcSsPnepvSSeW3Ag5/ZMAoEatVv czaPlXqebEeLHMBnOY521DTRiBLQYGnTgpDhCW8L4gDsi23HykF68tsi9vBFMWcKULfk hqyzKu7LFlZzqhhDfVx+nBOk+Qd9Ny5ML6nkMRt+2i4E4sWrv2DBI7b5Ijlj8flYI/Yr VyU6Ek9aUecABphX8nkQxYcVBvDrlJ2e/OPvNtXHF7mvnWoKE5KMAL4+8cj0k1hJfh5J qB0A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUdZBS31uaaXcnWQlomMXo1nKAjIHOEaeLuRK3V5TOs5eYRK6UM FuK2/mOXrLyGBbHz71kXGstvnfHKknCYcvwJliY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyBIoSRckqJ+JjlbNXn8u1WXAZK2h+5Aq+8YoabOSanEN3BC3dU4TitA7nfIB1umGMWVAOPD2BAxfQh0sgqIdg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:17ab:: with SMTP id q40mr347453pja.106.1566488971635; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:49:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83h869cofm.fsf@gnu.org> <834l29clqs.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <834l29clqs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 17:49:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#37142: Confusing message in FAQ: "This version has been heavily edited" To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37142 Cc: 37142@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) severity 37142 wishlist tags 37142 fixed close 37142 27.1 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Ah, now I understand. Maybe I'm unusually slow, but could we please > > clarify that by adding "in the year 2000" after "included in the Emacs > > distribution"? > > Sure, why not? Thanks. I've now added a comment to that effect in commit b289ceaf79. I'm therefore closing this bug. Note however that it was actually included in 1999, so that's what I added. Here's the initial commit: commit 71e6882726cc7904f4e1852d6e703590748150d6 Author: Dave Love Date: Wed Sep 1 11:06:25 1999 +0000 Initial revision Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Thu Aug 21 12:11:52 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator