From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:41:44 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#37130 <37130@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#37130 <37130@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display the timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) Reply-To: bug#37130 <37130@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 01:41:44 +0000 retitle 37130 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display th= e timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) reassign 37130 emacs submitter 37130 Vincent Lefevre severity 37130 wishlist tag 37130 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 21 10:31:54 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2019 14:31:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReU-0002Wh-9C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:31:54 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReS-0002WZ-Ly for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:31:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReR-00028O-7u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:31:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReP-0004Ko-SX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:31:51 -0400 Received: from cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr ([140.77.13.17]:47320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReP-0004Jf-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:31:49 -0400 Received: from vlefevre by cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr with local (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0ReN-0006Td-LN; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:31:47 +0200 From: Vincent Lefevre To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display the timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 16:31:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87ef1ea8to.fsf@vinc17.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 140.77.13.17 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) When tar-mode-show-date is set to t (to get the timestamps), the Tar mode displays them in a non-standard format. It should use the ISO8601 format (this is what GNU tar does). Other formats (e.g. one corresponding to the locales) could be used via an option; in particular, the support of the TIME_STYLE environment variable (see coreutils manual) would be a good idea. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.10) of 2019-08-20 built on cventin Repository revision: 50dc4ca8d02a466a7236765edf83ae7cfb02d74c Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid Recent messages: Loading /home/vlefevre/share/emacs/site-lisp/mutteditor.el (source)...done Loading time...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Vincent Lefevre writes: > When tar-mode-show-date is set to t (to get the timestamps), the > Tar mode displays them in a non-standard format. It should use > the ISO8601 format (this is what GNU tar does). Content analysis details: (-2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 NO_DNS_FOR_FROM DNS: Envelope sender has no MX or A DNS records -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.9 DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN No valid author signature and domain not in DNS -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37130 Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) Vincent Lefevre writes: > When tar-mode-show-date is set to t (to get the timestamps), the > Tar mode displays them in a non-standard format. It should use > the ISO8601 format (this is what GNU tar does). I think it makes sense to follow GNU tar's lead here, so I've now done this on the trunk. > Other formats (e.g. one corresponding to the locales) could be used > via an option; in particular, the support of the TIME_STYLE > environment variable (see coreutils manual) would be a good idea. I think that sounds like overkill for tar-mode, but perhaps there should be a general function somewhere for using TIME_STYLE throughout Emacs whenever time/dates are displayed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 22 23:46:37 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2019 03:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i10X7-0004Nk-6w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 23:46:37 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:39404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i10X4-0004LR-Uj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 23:46:35 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i10X2-0003Pi-7a for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:46:34 +0200 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:46:31 +0200 Message-Id: <87sgpssfvs.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #37130 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 37130 fixed close 37130 27.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 NO_DNS_FOR_FROM DNS: Envelope sender has no MX or A DNS records -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.9 DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN No valid author signature and domain not in DNS -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) tags 37130 fixed close 37130 27.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 23 04:36:23 2019 Received: (at 37130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2019 08:36:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39121 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i153U-0002Gx-NI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 04:36:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36415) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i153R-0002Gh-TO for 37130@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 04:36:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i153M-0006x2-Ih; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 04:36:12 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1441 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i153L-0007pL-Vd; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 04:36:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 11:36:20 +0300 Message-Id: <83ef1cb7nf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87tva8sfvx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:46:26 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#37130: 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display the timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) References: <87ef1ea8to.fsf@vinc17.net> <87tva8sfvx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37130 Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 05:46:26 +0200 > Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org > > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > > When tar-mode-show-date is set to t (to get the timestamps), the > > Tar mode displays them in a non-standard format. It should use > > the ISO8601 format (this is what GNU tar does). > > I think it makes sense to follow GNU tar's lead here, so I've now done > this on the trunk. Yuck! what an ugly format! > > Other formats (e.g. one corresponding to the locales) could be used > > via an option; in particular, the support of the TIME_STYLE > > environment variable (see coreutils manual) would be a good idea. > > I think that sounds like overkill for tar-mode, but perhaps there should > be a general function somewhere for using TIME_STYLE throughout Emacs > whenever time/dates are displayed. I think we should just make the format used for the time stamp a user option, that would be a good-enough solution. It will also provide a "fire escape" to get the old behavior for those, like me, who might dislike the ISO8601 format. We must provide such backward-compatibility options anyway when we change behavior in incompatible ways. Finally, this change should be in NEWS (including the to-be-added backward-compatibility shim). Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 25 02:03:27 2019 Received: (at 37130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2019 06:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lcc-0000T1-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:03:27 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:58036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lcb-0000Su-7H for 37130@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:03:25 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lcX-0001ee-Oz; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:03:24 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#37130: 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display the timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) References: <87ef1ea8to.fsf@vinc17.net> <87tva8sfvx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83ef1cb7nf.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:03:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83ef1cb7nf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 23 Aug 2019 11:36:20 +0300") Message-ID: <87d0gt93yu.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I think it makes sense to follow GNU tar's lead here, so I've now done >> this on the trunk. > > Yuck! what an ugly format! Yes, I didn't check what GNU tar really did, so I just put in ISO8601. I've now checked and replicated the format, which looks nicer. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37130 Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I think it makes sense to follow GNU tar's lead here, so I've now done >> this on the trunk. > > Yuck! what an ugly format! Yes, I didn't check what GNU tar really did, so I just put in ISO8601. I've now checked and replicated the format, which looks nicer. >> > Other formats (e.g. one corresponding to the locales) could be used >> > via an option; in particular, the support of the TIME_STYLE >> > environment variable (see coreutils manual) would be a good idea. >> >> I think that sounds like overkill for tar-mode, but perhaps there should >> be a general function somewhere for using TIME_STYLE throughout Emacs >> whenever time/dates are displayed. > > I think we should just make the format used for the time stamp a user > option, that would be a good-enough solution. It will also provide a > "fire escape" to get the old behavior for those, like me, who might > dislike the ISO8601 format. We must provide such > backward-compatibility options anyway when we change behavior in > incompatible ways. We don't, in general, add such options unless we think it's going to be used a lot. For tar mode, my feeling is that nobody will ever care enough to bother to customise it. > Finally, this change should be in NEWS (including the to-be-added > backward-compatibility shim). Or even notice it, which is why I didn't mention it in NEWS. It seem like a not particularly NEWS-worthy item to me. If you think this really warrants a user customisation and a NEWS item, I'd rather just revert the change and mark this bug as a WONTFIX, because it doesn't seem like that to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 25 03:41:26 2019 Received: (at 37130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2019 07:41:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1n9S-00050c-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 03:41:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54505) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1n9M-00050M-L9 for 37130@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 03:41:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45833) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i1n9H-0007Ni-EL; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 03:41:15 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2849 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i1n9G-0006wY-UF; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 03:41:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 10:41:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83tva5heud.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87d0gt93yu.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:03:21 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#37130: 27.0.50; Tar mode should use the ISO8601 format to display the timestamps (or support TIME_STYLE or locales) References: <87ef1ea8to.fsf@vinc17.net> <87tva8sfvx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83ef1cb7nf.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0gt93yu.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37130 Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 37130@debbugs.gnu.org, vincent@vinc17.net > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:03:21 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> I think it makes sense to follow GNU tar's lead here, so I've now done > >> this on the trunk. > > > > Yuck! what an ugly format! > > Yes, I didn't check what GNU tar really did, so I just put in ISO8601. > I've now checked and replicated the format, which looks nicer. Yes, much nicer, thanks. > > Finally, this change should be in NEWS (including the to-be-added > > backward-compatibility shim). > > Or even notice it, which is why I didn't mention it in NEWS. It seem > like a not particularly NEWS-worthy item to me. Maybe not with the change as it is now. It was a big change originally. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:41:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator