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[70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o14sm841295oie.13.2019.08.13.17.38.03 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 19:38:03 -0500 Message-ID: <87o90sh990.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::335 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi - The commands gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings. gnus-1 should probably specify how it differs from just M-x gnus (or be noninterative). Thanks, Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 14 15:55:45 2019 Received: (at 37022) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2019 19:55:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hxzN3-0006xI-E7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:55:45 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:34366 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hxzN0-0006x0-Ho for 37022@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:55:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [205.175.106.48]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D289FA02A; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:55:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37022: 27.0.50; gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings References: <87o90sh990.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:55:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o90sh990.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Tue, 13 Aug 2019 19:38:03 -0500") Message-ID: <87a7cb8qtl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37022 Cc: 37022@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Alex Branham writes: > Hi - > > The commands gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings. gnus-1 should > probably specify how it differs from just M-x gnus (or be > noninterative). I'm inclined to think that gnus-1 (and gnus-no-server-1) shouldn't be interactive. I can't see any point to it -- the *-1 variants live in gnus-start.el and are not autoloaded. It seems like Gnus' entry points should be interactive and autoloaded, and what happens after that is internals. 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[70.114.192.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s24sm1094749otd.81.2019.08.23.08.55.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Branham To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#37022: 27.0.50; gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings References: <87o90sh990.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7cb8qtl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:55:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a7cb8qtl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:55:34 -0700") Message-ID: <87tva76fm4.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37022 Cc: 37022@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex Branham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain tags 37022 + patch quit On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 12:55, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Alex Branham writes: > >> Hi - >> >> The commands gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings. gnus-1 should >> probably specify how it differs from just M-x gnus (or be >> noninterative). > > I'm inclined to think that gnus-1 (and gnus-no-server-1) shouldn't be > interactive. I can't see any point to it -- the *-1 variants live in > gnus-start.el and are not autoloaded. It seems like Gnus' entry points > should be interactive and autoloaded, and what happens after that is > internals. Here's a patch that makes them noninteractive. Alex --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-lisp-gnus-gnus-start.el-gnus-1-gnus-no-server-1-Make.patch >From 2c2411d94618d8c719c2583fe7ed1c19d02cbae9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Alex Branham Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:51:48 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] * lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el (gnus-1, gnus-no-server-1): Make noninteractive bug#37022 --- lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el | 3 --- 1 file changed, 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el index 930d522c41..e8775c6667 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el @@ -738,7 +738,6 @@ gnus-no-server-1 and not a positive number, Gnus will prompt the user for the name of an NNTP server to use. As opposed to \\[gnus], this command will not connect to the local server." - (interactive "P") (let ((val (or arg (1- gnus-level-default-subscribed)))) (gnus val t slave) (make-local-variable 'gnus-group-use-permanent-levels) @@ -749,8 +748,6 @@ gnus-1 If ARG is non-nil and a positive number, Gnus will use that as the startup level. If ARG is non-nil and not a positive number, Gnus will prompt the user for the name of an NNTP server to use." - (interactive "P") - (if (gnus-alive-p) (progn (gnus-run-hooks 'gnus-before-resume-hook) -- 2.22.0 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 25 02:06:34 2019 Received: (at 37022) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2019 06:06:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lfd-0000XS-Uo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:06:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:58192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lfc-0000XJ-4S for 37022@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:06:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lfX-0001fJ-7V; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:06:29 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alex Branham Subject: Re: bug#37022: 27.0.50; gnus-1 and gnus have identical docstrings References: <87o90sh990.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7cb8qtl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tva76fm4.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:06:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87tva76fm4.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Branham's message of "Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:55:31 -0500") Message-ID: <878srh93tp.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alex Branham writes: > Here's a patch that makes them noninteractive. Thanks; applied to the trunk. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37022 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 37022@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Branham writes: > Here's a patch that makes them noninteractive. Thanks; applied to the trunk. I don't know why those functions were ever interactive. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 25 02:06:40 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2019 06:06:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lfk-0000Xn-6V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:06:40 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:58208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lfi-0000Xg-4v for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 02:06:38 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i1lff-0001fS-An for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:06:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:06:34 +0200 Message-Id: <877e7193th.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #37022 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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