From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 04 17:01:14 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2019 21:01:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huNcw-0007zy-2N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:01:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huNct-0007zp-EY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:01:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38579) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huNcs-0007m4-Fg for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:01:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huNcr-0002Br-KL for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:01:10 -0400 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huNcp-00025l-6W; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:01:07 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1564952446; cv=none; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; b=DPpi3cJq0IFPDiCBaZDczyEvKzuW4d2NVw+dfRFZAn39TZ32zb9gbnr4vLbh7n7exU5l/tSmqKYUMmueFrlt5l2uerCS1dtmfPyLAGsF0KQ/3iXZbAWRhum+HdAW7T5keW2XSUG+9VC5m5+qpToIczzvAXBlI7wgaa+HDDK737Y= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; t=1564952446; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:ARC-Authentication-Results; bh=SfReUyZGHrEL/+pGT+yBcAUuxDysK61qKKtxsYxTic0=; b=Rgdg3oT/ZutWr5dpXwbHJaKWsD1src1B2VvrRRJ3dCzBewmZMtBN4frPpUVhvI8vHjGbWRuURobKiLnHLa8oRInf6Qp9Qt+Fw53GmuQtRD7LxqvbFiE2N6PMWG47lLoB8WyoBpDyLPv6VRHzs2UA3i5ZnMLT1jCf7k5bp9M2Iq8= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1564952446; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=1051; bh=SfReUyZGHrEL/+pGT+yBcAUuxDysK61qKKtxsYxTic0=; b=Dhm1J6k9xkIUvl18XBSFPWLsSiiqxj988D7ieOSrubjDuNRLyEdAvGveG7XAYAFK rGUDTWj4Qf9ORdq9YQvx89uSUuMrmnuq+uVV8LyYuw3GbH/o1/9NSM/blMEV95R3akJ LwrEfoJCAtl9Ae46SMpz91ESuZVvJslzeRFFD2/c= Received: from localhost (p54AD46C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.70.196]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1564952445116617.1032930029761; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 14:00:45 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.2 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 23:00:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 135.84.80.216 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi Guix, Today I again couldn=E2=80=99t log into my workstation after upgrading the system. I=E2=80=99m using GDM + GNOME Shell. At first GDM wouldn=E2=80=99t start. I knew what to do: remove /var/lib/gd= m, because some state must have accumulated there. GDM came up after a reboot, but I still couldn=E2=80=99t log in. Instead I= was thrown back to the login screen without any error message. I looked in ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for information, but it only told me that gnome-shell was killed. Thanks. After removing both .local/share and .cache out of the way I could log in again. This happens whenever I upgrade the system. This makes the system rather frustrating to use. I don=E2=80=99t know if booting into an older s= ystem generation would result in the same problem, but my guess is that it would because both GDM and GNOME Shell appear to be leaving some binary files behind that cause different versions to crash unceremoneously. What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? -- Ricardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 05 03:17:28 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2019 07:17:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huXFI-0002z5-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:17:28 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huXFF-0002yx-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:17:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huXFE-0008Bv-Ex for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:17:25 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huXFD-0005Dd-1m for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:17:24 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:42094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huXFC-0005Ck-Ml; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:17:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [31.210.177.218]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B4C54015E; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 10:17:19 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell Message-ID: <20190805071719.GB15819@E2140> References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 178.62.234.194 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, bug-guix@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:00:41PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > Hi Guix, >=20 > Today I again couldn=E2=80=99t log into my workstation after upgrading the > system. I=E2=80=99m using GDM + GNOME Shell. >=20 > At first GDM wouldn=E2=80=99t start. I knew what to do: remove /var/lib/= gdm, > because some state must have accumulated there. For this one can we create a single-shot service that, on reconfigure or boot, removes this directory and recreates it? In fact, it seems this is basically what Debian does=C2=B9. >=20 > GDM came up after a reboot, but I still couldn=E2=80=99t log in. Instead= I was > thrown back to the login screen without any error message. I looked in > ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for information, but it only told me that > gnome-shell was killed. Thanks. >=20 > After removing both .local/share and .cache out of the way I could log > in again. This part seems a little harder to automate. /etc/skel is only sourced when a user is created, so it's hard to make sweeping changes to help people in this case, if they even want automated help. I'm guessing making .cache/gdm(?) read-only would create other issues. >=20 > This happens whenever I upgrade the system. This makes the system > rather frustrating to use. I don=E2=80=99t know if booting into an older= system > generation would result in the same problem, but my guess is that it > would because both GDM and GNOME Shell appear to be leaving some binary > files behind that cause different versions to crash unceremoneously. >=20 > What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? Modify the logout scripts to remove a users' .cache file seems extreme. Some of the other options, such as removing and recreating directories would address other issues we've had (such as /var/cache/fontconfig). =C2=B9 https://sources.debian.org/src/gdm3/3.30.2-3/debian/gdm3.postinst/#L= 76 --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl1H1/IACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1G5VhAAsibD5ztLCeQoH3V8uNSGHhxreveiSAs1ZRB63xKot5+77Yc6dVWbfQOn FO+0kD4ltjlaD+FplwoR+3qBUzshx+Gs+5NJi6EJJfWlt6mM7mOpUlry3uVJ5iFA Y0lR9mw+xc2Yaj/oaXiimmncpGVs8aCqNM5lSugIuACL3e0JTOVX1Dzatuc1HW7+ DRrAIpnz+2Jwdf8n8lDBRVf6skJHh3cMKEWYxO/xRABeaAESjOxvWq8sB0TEpCSe bZdMjAUV9eoWE+gIPbqLjdAjBTHy69BKj6tRgn1meZCvQv1CsdVDkqJUVJJ1p9fm K5VjXij092gnXDGkdDYUm2B4loTYodwva45x5O5Eb7z12wq6+zCsYcD3Ir0+twFf hM2Q8ptCwVr55bpO48I8KpWkAJi8jn+RiDNro3BZK+IfOcHAusKdEqcdA3wEQzs0 99qkeTKbBa8sTAmI44lqYTrkrWg6mIeWXamgr0Xkb6bZM2YwkgdmsqhGFb1hs1uW dOhfBrULNBMMARMiFIR3Muurqo/pRVqR3V/4aK0a+y4XdmE7eab2dhQs9DwPjYLl WqaSF7X5XfLi7GQZKEzbZOEqH2D7e03zKKximVjkO/7wrGZ4qr17mC8k2/U6voEB Yw9Xwo3hacJHGLbwG/7k79yQ4lM9oR/H0mR3RcwqNoZ7NTwKJaY= =ZKzJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 05 10:36:39 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2019 14:36:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hue6I-0005L4-V8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 10:36:39 -0400 Received: from sender4-of-o53.zoho.com ([136.143.188.53]:21302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hue6H-0005Kt-6J for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 10:36:38 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1565015781; cv=none; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; b=SeqMqOKn9e8Bn8DyEijybElV8EMY6Wn6cmUi3iMJQY4olwD8oGwfhkmFXF4lX5XzAJAfZ3oAQ+QK3s9/i1fy/hv6bucINWKXGWZAlhq7lc6eMoWSpDZ63iPAkYfIM0+C0bmq6KQX1wydQxunzquyWTF4ZbUhS841la/kn92KZrU= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; t=1565015781; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To:ARC-Authentication-Results; bh=jDDIVEUeZKAbMEEmVZMtLnSIG6ZHj6xyZRU/12BfBCg=; b=lnVgJDxhTZKKtObnqLeCeZGCMvKjstSUrwFnWas7dfplKZBCyAbluGrZEGw2MKN1B9+OEoe5SPicJViDATJpsPZOOI9fWzdc3vEHniCcsNLDihFfjP58VTDSFBE6DTiydvcMzaCywMc2pf8zQ+k6HqgOJB0BOAAwA+qffABTyHk= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1565015781; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=2019; bh=jDDIVEUeZKAbMEEmVZMtLnSIG6ZHj6xyZRU/12BfBCg=; b=VocBUOQhRNLupX+C108OYK12ZajCzbE2b1A+7s8d6HgI/c65G6AKd/Wl3cVSgIXk bPtyC7BbKyY8Z8+y2LXTIY/ewAK/B0KDO7PkIJyxA1WgL6SR8oct1TuzejQg+VhD4fx noH/NBjHC3sDivTRqxjFmTxp5xsn9wQ9cT1pvFxI= Received: from localhost (141.80.247.250 [141.80.247.250]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 156501578105531.174411814380278; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <20190805071719.GB15819@E2140> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.2 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell In-reply-to: <20190805071719.GB15819@E2140> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 16:36:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87h86vznkt.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Efraim Flashner writes: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:00:41PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> Hi Guix, >> >> Today I again couldn=E2=80=99t log into my workstation after upgrading t= he >> system. I=E2=80=99m using GDM + GNOME Shell. >> >> At first GDM wouldn=E2=80=99t start. I knew what to do: remove /var/lib= /gdm, >> because some state must have accumulated there. > > For this one can we create a single-shot service that, on reconfigure or > boot, removes this directory and recreates it? In fact, it seems this is > basically what Debian does=C2=B9. I suggested as much earlier, but it seems like a hack. Is this how GNOME expects this state directory to be handled? The fact that Debian does this is reassuring (or not=E2=80=A6), but I would very much like to av= oid adding even more hacks. >> GDM came up after a reboot, but I still couldn=E2=80=99t log in. Instea= d I was >> thrown back to the login screen without any error message. I looked in >> ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for information, but it only told me that >> gnome-shell was killed. Thanks. >> >> After removing both .local/share and .cache out of the way I could log >> in again. > > This part seems a little harder to automate. /etc/skel is only sourced > when a user is created, so it's hard to make sweeping changes to help > people in this case, if they even want automated help. I'm guessing > making .cache/gdm(?) read-only would create other issues. Does anyone know why this happens at all? What are the cached data? Can we do without? >> What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? > > Modify the logout scripts to remove a users' .cache file seems extreme. > Some of the other options, such as removing and recreating directories > would address other issues we've had (such as /var/cache/fontconfig). In my opinion generating a global /var/cache/fontconfig should be prevented; removing it seems again like an avoidable hack. -- Ricardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 06 12:12:32 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2019 16:12:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv24d-0006x7-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:12:32 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:46470) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv24Z-0006wi-HV for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:12:27 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hv24T-0007Wf-Ir; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:12:21 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:12:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Sun, 04 Aug 2019 23:00:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87k1bqgtn1.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Today I again couldn=E2=80=99t log into my workstation after upgrading the > system. I=E2=80=99m using GDM + GNOME Shell. > > At first GDM wouldn=E2=80=99t start. I knew what to do: remove /var/lib/= gdm, > because some state must have accumulated there. > > GDM came up after a reboot, but I still couldn=E2=80=99t log in. Instead= I was > thrown back to the login screen without any error message. I looked in > ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for information, but it only told me that > gnome-shell was killed. Thanks. > > After removing both .local/share and .cache out of the way I could log > in again. > > This happens whenever I upgrade the system. This makes the system > rather frustrating to use. I don=E2=80=99t know if booting into an older= system > generation would result in the same problem, but my guess is that it > would because both GDM and GNOME Shell appear to be leaving some binary > files behind that cause different versions to crash unceremoneously. > > What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? It's interesting that I've never run into this problem, not even once, in all my years of running GNOME on Guix systems. Since recently reverting to mostly using GNOME under X and GDM (whereas for a while I was mostly launching GNOME manually under Wayland), I've run into some other problems, e.g. GDM suspending my system automatically, sometimes immediately after logging out, but I've *never* had to remove my caches. I wonder if this is related to my use of Btrfs instead of Ext4. Whereas system crashes cause file system corruptions under Ext4 (usually in the form of some files being left empty after a crash), I've never seen any evidence of corruption from crashes under Btrfs. Mark From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 06 14:09:10 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2019 18:09:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv3tW-0003ie-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:09:10 -0400 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv3tT-0003iR-Pa for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:09:08 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1565114937; cv=none; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; b=d5OpaQ0g3W2/7s9HmE0DsXnhdPVGlI+8oPYLV+I7dqJSqbmKW9J2XMPQ7fgO8LOogZzn0TkURNBcGCixTZThC0LEQLL5Om7yRtOpSSLrBr7p5Yhh9gcDg+LFsnKvYyRkuM/N632P9HtpUech2BPwpIeGxLV3i4eHFcMljoyODY4= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; t=1565114937; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To:ARC-Authentication-Results; bh=SgYJ4jqZ0WghyHyh4UHiYzhp0xidum3BTiDu3sSxnLE=; b=JXrdYDdrGEzK4Ajjyay+Wllk8lB2SPmn+H4Efz+wxWgrASKn7L/XfjIuM1Qx+BoARZJITlruABbEyogoq3XjTAYgwuC27H4Yl0SYtACd+QEh6Dn8HC8ni4iW5QPBHrP9ZGAZwkfVQPzQ6T1zcWb3SUgZDPsn6HPGNfP262mDRH0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1565114937; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=956; bh=SgYJ4jqZ0WghyHyh4UHiYzhp0xidum3BTiDu3sSxnLE=; b=SKAw6xSAml2C5b6aaBS9bHRYzuR16bHAnuhkut7sgeDcxd2D4g4Hxi15y8Xu51LK e6+HxOCMlr7jh2C2bzpQ4VtAnOX92T0GKHKoCDQrA6NGoTDgtuw4ai/Hktzq/g8CB/v jqOFItX/NMoD0lGL8YGVH8o/02x4Ae0HKiknlx6w= Received: from localhost (p54AD4F59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.79.89]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1565114936888671.3018542480872; Tue, 6 Aug 2019 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <87k1bqgtn1.fsf@netris.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.2 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell In-reply-to: <87k1bqgtn1.fsf@netris.org> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:08:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgqexj2k.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mark H Weaver writes: > It's interesting that I've never run into this problem, not even once, > in all my years of running GNOME on Guix systems. Since recently > reverting to mostly using GNOME under X and GDM (whereas for a while I > was mostly launching GNOME manually under Wayland), I've run into some > other problems, e.g. GDM suspending my system automatically, sometimes > immediately after logging out, but I've *never* had to remove my caches. Interesting. > I wonder if this is related to my use of Btrfs instead of Ext4. Whereas > system crashes cause file system corruptions under Ext4 (usually in the > form of some files being left empty after a crash), I've never seen any > evidence of corruption from crashes under Btrfs. I haven=E2=80=99t had a system crash on this machine. I didn=E2=80=99t use= it for a month, upgraded, rebooted, and then had GDM + GNOME Shell problems. --=20 Ricardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 23:00:08 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2019 03:00:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39737 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvYet-0005xZ-Kx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:00:07 -0400 Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.19]:45571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvYer-0005vq-UN for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:00:06 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41C8BE; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:00:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=+EePs7q6cPRRzrE6cEbgq3jo8IvP9ryf58OXzWhB2 50=; b=zYOsu7lL6/StO1H7PSubE1jwDMUc0o76N6GqKVWuS/gRq0K/98Pgm5EDI d3d63WS4BZZLb7oc/4q8PBaLXOb7yXba9rDO48lL6cE6oLKBZF8ImaLWT+YyK+Os uLcKhpF6Y/i0vbEoWKKGLLnUDFMSjm/eSpyMu7yS/NMiWclyf8uMVVj6y38mHhM2 ufRTiGavsPLoUKPsdsvXZ95bh3uw9ml6QYhyXONHRr1OFSb21lfGWCw99QXbPDAM xYuonNnEmz1miiM7CZdt1a17hdnNhNTrZQ+xYbbwKAyi/1OxJPuJXcQTs2y4yTtV 3MD9o6FcBwWOmoB3/eF0vQEmGMdhA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddruddugedgfeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufhffjgfkfgggtgfgsehtqh ertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefvihhmohhthhihucfurghmphhlvgcuoehsrghmphhlvght sehnghihrhhordgtohhmqeenucfkphepjeegrdduudeirddukeeirdeggeenucfrrghrrg hmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepshgrmhhplhgvthesnhhghihrohdrtghomhenucevlhhushht vghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from mrblack (74-116-186-44.qc.dsl.ebox.net [74.116.186.44]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B39C7380074; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:59:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Sample To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: fixing GDM + GNOME Shell References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <87k1bqgtn1.fsf@netris.org> <87sgqexj2k.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 22:59:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sgqexj2k.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:08:51 +0200") Message-ID: <87d0hgpdjl.fsf@ngyro.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Mark H Weaver , 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Mark H Weaver writes: > >> It's interesting that I've never run into this problem, not even once, >> in all my years of running GNOME on Guix systems. Since recently >> reverting to mostly using GNOME under X and GDM (whereas for a while I >> was mostly launching GNOME manually under Wayland), I've run into some >> other problems, e.g. GDM suspending my system automatically, sometimes >> immediately after logging out, but I've *never* had to remove my caches. > > Interesting. FWIW, I=E2=80=99m having the same good luck as Mark. Other than the upgrade from 3.24 to 3.28, I=E2=80=99ve never had this kind of trouble with GNOME a= nd GDM. And even then, IIRC, the issue wasn=E2=80=99t really with the state f= iles (deleting them just happened to serve as a temporary work-around). -- Tim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 12 04:42:34 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2019 08:42:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8KgU-0005gE-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:42:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55581) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8KgS-0005g1-HL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:42:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i8KgN-00055T-Ct for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:42:27 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=38526 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i8KgM-0003lR-QU for control@debbugs.gnu.org; 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12 Sep 2019 09:54:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8LoF-0003dQ-G9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 05:54:39 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:45886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8LoB-0003dE-Sc for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 05:54:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D91B86D1; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:54:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bifa4th8wpCC; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jurong (unknown [IPv6:2001:660:6102:310:57eb:9f1c:5906:299]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3845386C9; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:54:30 +0200 From: Andreas Enge To: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Mesa/GDM/XFCE Message-ID: <20190912095430.GA1559@jurong> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Hello, now it is my turn to experience a problem in this area. I newly installed a machine with the graphical installer of Guix 1.0.1 (where I could use xfce without problem), then I issued a "guix pull" and a "guix system reconfigure". Now logging into XFCE poses problems, which I can reproduce as follows (after removing /var/lib/gdm, $HOME/{.config,.cache,.local} once): - When I remove $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml I can log into XFCE once. - The second time, various problems may occur: The terminal, which was open before opens, but does not receive focus so I cannot type, and the windows decorations for closing it are absent; or the xfce panel is absent. - Then I remove $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml again, and can log in once more. And so on. The following lines in $HOME/.cache/gdm/session.log appear when there is a problem: xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293: intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung »image->TexObject->Target == mt->target« nicht erfüllt. (nm-applet:8046): nm-applet-WARNING **: 11:23:52.630: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.AgentManager.PermissionDenied: An agent with this ID is already registered for this user. xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293: intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung »image->TexObject->Target == mt->target« nicht erfüllt. (nm-applet:8046): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 11:23:53.035: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293: intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung »image->TexObject->Target == mt->target« nicht erfüllt. (nm-applet:8046): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 11:23:53.357: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293: intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung »image->TexObject->Target == mt->target« nicht erfüllt. (nm-applet:8046): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 11:23:53.441: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed (xfconfd:7966): xfconfd-CRITICAL **: 11:23:58.040: Name org.xfce.Xfconf lost on the message dbus, exiting. (Thunar:8030): thunar-WARNING **: 11:23:58.041: Name »org.xfce.FileManager« auf dem Nachrichten-dbus verloren. (tumblerd:8023): tumblerd-CRITICAL **: 11:23:58.041: Name org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Cache1 lost on the message dbus, exiting. (Thunar:8030): thunar-WARNING **: 11:23:58.041: Name »org.freedesktop.FileManager1« auf dem Nachrichten-dbus verloren. (tumblerd:8023): tumblerd-CRITICAL **: 11:23:58.041: Name org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Manager1 lost on the message dbus, exiting. (tumblerd:8023): tumblerd-CRITICAL **: 11:23:58.041: Name org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1 lost on the message dbus, exiting. Sorry for the German, but you also have the translation: "Zusicherung ... nicht erfüllt" = "assertion ... failed" "auf dem Nachrichten-dbus verloren" = "lost on the message dbus" Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 12 07:40:21 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2019 11:40:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43136 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8NSW-0000LT-UA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:40:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i8NSU-0000L3-M4 for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:40:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i8NSP-0008M4-7A; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:40:13 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=60020 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i8NSO-0003Md-9T; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:40:12 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#36924: Mesa/GDM/XFCE References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <20190912095430.GA1559@jurong> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:40:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190912095430.GA1559@jurong> (Andreas Enge's message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:54:30 +0200") Message-ID: <874l1hpwti.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hallo! Thanks for the report, Andreas! Andreas Enge skribis: > xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293:= intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung =C2=BBimage->TexObject->Target =3D= =3D mt->target=C2=AB nicht erf=C3=BCllt. That=E2=80=99s the likely root cause to me (in which case it may be unrelat= ed to this , after all.) I found these bug reports: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D107117 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1678334 In both cases, Xfce and Mesa=E2=80=99s i965 drivers are involved, as is the= case on your machine. The 2nd bug report includes an xfwm4 patch, even. I wonder if Xfce before the recent updates (so before 8549e0ca6fd68a57253471436de49b88b2d47e64) works better. Andreas, if you feel like it, could you try: guix pull --commit=3D97ce5964fb5d52cf2151fea685e28fa23a98b264 sudo guix system reconfigure =E2=80=A6 ? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 16 05:45:00 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 09:45:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9nZ6-0008PF-FU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:45:00 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:45100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9nZ4-0008P7-Pi for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:44:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172AEDC4A; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:44:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VUuMCXZo_mEA; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:44:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jurong (unknown [IPv6:2001:660:6102:310:57eb:9f1c:5906:299]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA36EDB56; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:44:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:44:54 +0200 From: Andreas Enge To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-15?Q?Court=E8s?= Subject: Re: bug#36924: Mesa/GDM/XFCE Message-ID: <20190916094454.GA1265@jurong> References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <20190912095430.GA1559@jurong> <874l1hpwti.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <874l1hpwti.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org, L p R n d n X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Hello, On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:40:09PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Thanks for the report, Andreas! and thanks for the time spent putting me on the good track! > Andreas Enge skribis: > > xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:1293: intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung »image->TexObject->Target == mt->target« nicht erfüllt. > That’s the likely root cause to me (in which case it may be unrelated to > this , after all.) > I found these bug reports: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107117 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1678334 > > In both cases, Xfce and Mesa’s i965 drivers are involved, as is the case > on your machine. The 2nd bug report includes an xfwm4 patch, even. The first one also contains a patch, but it has been integrated into later mesa releases, in particular the one we are using. > I wonder if Xfce before the recent updates (so before > 8549e0ca6fd68a57253471436de49b88b2d47e64) works better. > Andreas, if you feel like it, could you try: > guix pull --commit=97ce5964fb5d52cf2151fea685e28fa23a98b264 > sudo guix system reconfigure … Indeed, the problem disappears with this commit; I can log in and out and in again with xfce working. So I am cc-ing the author of the commits updating xfce, maybe they have an answer! And I will try to look at the patch in the second report you reference above. Thanks! Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 16 10:57:37 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 14:57:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sRa-000878-IA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:57:34 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.142]:54557) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9sRX-00086s-Mi for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:57:32 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE162400FF for <36924@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:57:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 46X8VD1YV3z9rxK; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:57:23 +0200 (CEST) From: L p R n d n To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#36924: Mesa/GDM/XFCE References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <20190912095430.GA1559@jurong> <874l1hpwti.fsf@gnu.org> <20190916094454.GA1265@jurong> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:57:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190916094454.GA1265@jurong> (Andreas Enge's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:44:54 +0200") Message-ID: <878sqoe1bi.fsf@lprndn.info> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hello, Andreas Enge writes: > Hello, > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:40:09PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Thanks for the report, Andreas! > > and thanks for the time spent putting me on the good track! > >> Andreas Enge skribis: >> > xfwm4: ../mesa-19.1.4/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i965/intel_mipmap_tree.c:12= 93: >> intel_miptree_match_image: Zusicherung =C2=BBimage->TexObject->Target = =3D=3D >> mt->target=C2=AB nicht erf=C3=BCllt. >> That=E2=80=99s the likely root cause to me (in which case it may be unre= lated to >> this , after all.) >> I found these bug reports: >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D107117 >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1678334 >>=20 >> In both cases, Xfce and Mesa=E2=80=99s i965 drivers are involved, as is = the case >> on your machine. The 2nd bug report includes an xfwm4 patch, even. > > The first one also contains a patch, but it has been integrated into later > mesa releases, in particular the one we are using. > >> I wonder if Xfce before the recent updates (so before >> 8549e0ca6fd68a57253471436de49b88b2d47e64) works better. >> Andreas, if you feel like it, could you try: >> guix pull --commit=3D97ce5964fb5d52cf2151fea685e28fa23a98b264 >> sudo guix system reconfigure =E2=80=A6 > > Indeed, the problem disappears with this commit; I can log in and out > and in again with xfce working. So I am cc-ing the author of the commits > updating xfce, maybe they have an answer! It seems some bugs have been introduced in xfwm4 between 4.12 and 4.14. (All issues previously linked are for >=3D4.13 wich was the dev version of 4.14). I found https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=3D13233 which seems interesting. Please let us know if it changes anything. I don't know what would be the correct way to deal with the problem in guix though. > And I will try to look at the patch in the second report you reference > above. > > Thanks! > > Andreas Have a nice day, L p r n d n From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 27 02:25:47 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2019 07:25:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56452 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ikk0I-0003OZ-UY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 02:25:47 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:60120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ikk0H-0003OP-IU for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 02:25:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD801331; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 08:25:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c0sWI9nG8Ngd; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 08:25:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from jurong (p200300DD5703A300424C4B4D297DE326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:dd:5703:a300:424c:4b4d:297d:e326]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4CD2D7A; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 08:25:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 08:25:41 +0100 From: Andreas Enge To: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Xfce not starting Message-ID: <20191227072541.GA842@jurong> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Hello, after trying to reconfigure with commit 02b6382169192367e97a2d1bc72f8eb3ed38b0dc of December 9, I am now running into a problem where I cannot log into my xfce session under gdm any more: According to the first tty, a session is opened and closed immediately again, and the gdm login screen reappears. It is not enough to delete /var/lib/gdm, ~/.cache and ~/.local. Could I try anything else? Luckily, there is "guix system rollback" to my working configuration of September, but I am not very comfortable with running such an old system... Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 30 14:00:23 2019 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2019 19:00:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1im0H9-0008RJ-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:00:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1im0H8-0008R8-4T for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:00:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1im0H2-00012s-Ln; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:00:16 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=44290 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1im0Gv-0006UG-Qs; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:00:15 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#36924: Xfce not starting References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <20191227072541.GA842@jurong> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 10 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:00:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20191227072541.GA842@jurong> (Andreas Enge's message of "Fri, 27 Dec 2019 08:25:41 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8vp63m0.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Andreas, Andreas Enge skribis: > after trying to reconfigure with commit 02b6382169192367e97a2d1bc72f8eb3e= d38b0dc > of December 9, I am now running into a problem where I cannot log into my= xfce > session under gdm any more: According to the first tty, a session is open= ed > and closed immediately again, and the gdm login screen reappears. Did you try your config with the same commit in =E2=80=98guix system vm=E2= =80=99? Does it reproduce the problem? If it does not, that means the problem has to do with state, things like /var/lib/gdm as you mentioned. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. 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[134.157.122.122]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j7-20020a05600c410700b0038c72ef3f15sm3675657wmi.38.2022.03.23.04.34.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 23 Mar 2022 04:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: bug#36924: GDM, GNOME Shell, etc. break when there are stale caches References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 12:28:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Sun, 04 Aug 2019 23:00:41 +0200") Message-ID: <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, This old bug [1] is there since a long time. What is the status? 1: On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 at 23:00, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > Today I again couldn=E2=80=99t log into my workstation after upgrading the > system. I=E2=80=99m using GDM + GNOME Shell. > > At first GDM wouldn=E2=80=99t start. I knew what to do: remove /var/lib/= gdm, > because some state must have accumulated there. > > GDM came up after a reboot, but I still couldn=E2=80=99t log in. Instead= I was > thrown back to the login screen without any error message. I looked in > ~/.cache/gdm/session.log for information, but it only told me that > gnome-shell was killed. Thanks. > > After removing both .local/share and .cache out of the way I could log > in again. > > This happens whenever I upgrade the system. This makes the system > rather frustrating to use. I don=E2=80=99t know if booting into an older= system > generation would result in the same problem, but my guess is that it > would because both GDM and GNOME Shell appear to be leaving some binary > files behind that cause different versions to crash unceremoneously. > > What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? Is it still an issue? Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 23 08:48:46 2022 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2022 12:48:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nX0Pr-0000Yc-3D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.52]:55806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nX0Pp-0000YV-0B for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:48:41 -0400 Received: from [IPv6:2a02:2c40:200:b001::1:66ec] ([IPv6:2a02:2c40:200:b001::1:66ec]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 9ood2700a48ECPd01ooeQN; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 13:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#36924: GDM, GNOME Shell, etc. break when there are stale caches From: Maxime Devos To: zimoun , Ricardo Wurmus Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 13:48:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ajkCyEagJXB86qgSrhzI" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.3-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r22; t=1648039719; bh=7ujsGKU+J0jsCGN8iLAdNP8cEAk0YBnQLDGkmix73qg=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=EB70lWEsdDHQA8pshLyp1IphsSHOVCsMeDyxJxlUQ4xsRNACEtVscC2mtlHa1gkcN 0QL1MEkAQj/lHbeEs2HzHF2xTx6Dx+HzsfOJErGgQgWFoggm+xYC06tNyOb2IIFB0R FecWEBXrVKIPApN+l6379nbVGgkn7TZ6dZrVHacPjyhWro7/A0y4LtM2k1ZH3BVDaG NYt9ZKVdUo2Tp3PP2VfUsZidQJkcrc6tKlsQS88IM9BxT5PLRbQPzG8WVC6fhceFlW yXbhhEm4iuGrApTSRIP66TatswuayMNEJSvOjaE2Zku08IEhPI2EGnGM8VAtu8jnVJ qK55xNWbdnZBw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-ajkCyEagJXB86qgSrhzI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zimoun schreef op wo 23-03-2022 om 12:28 [+0100]: > > This happens whenever I upgrade the system.=C2=A0 This makes the system > > rather frustrating to use.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know if booting into a= n older > > system > > generation would result in the same problem, but my guess is that > > it > > would because both GDM and GNOME Shell appear to be leaving some > > binary > > files behind that cause different versions to crash > > unceremoneously. > >=20 > > What can we do to make GDM and GNOME Shell more reliable? >=20 > Is it still an issue? IIRC, I encountered the same symptom (although perhaps with a different cause, and I did not know if was caused by upgrades) last time I used Guix System, which was in the 2022 or at least 2021, so I think it might still be an issue. Or maybe it has been solved since then. 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If I recall correctly, the offending caches have not been updated since, so the short answer is "we don't know". The files in my /var/lib/gdm have some quite old dates, some of them ranging as far back as 2019, so I suppose there still exists an issue potential. 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[2a01:cb04:61b:8800:e256:8b91:90e0:3e61]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i9-20020a5d5849000000b002058631cfacsm887093wrf.61.2022.03.23.15.24.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun To: Liliana Marie Prikler , Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: bug#36924: GDM, GNOME Shell, etc. break when there are stale caches In-Reply-To: <95cef7888b04a157f3ceb0ef40904f88a02c250b.camel@gmail.com> References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> <95cef7888b04a157f3ceb0ef40904f88a02c250b.camel@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:14:07 +0100 Message-ID: <86wngkwc40.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Maxime and Liliana, On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 13:48, Maxime Devos wrote: > zimoun schreef op wo 23-03-2022 om 12:28 [+0100]: >> Is it still an issue? > IIRC, I encountered the same symptom (although perhaps with a different > cause, and I did not know if was caused by upgrades) last time I used > Guix System, which was in the 2022 or at least 2021, so I think it > might still be an issue. Or maybe it has been solved since then. On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 21:22, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 23.03.2022 um 12:28 +0100 schrieb zimoun: >> Is it still an issue? > If I recall correctly, the offending caches have not been updated > since, so the short answer is "we don't know". The files in my > /var/lib/gdm have some quite old dates, some of them ranging as far > back as 2019, so I suppose there still exists an issue potential. Thanks for your feedback. Hum, do we keep a report open based on =C2=AB maybe =C2=BB or =C2=AB we don= =E2=80=99t know =C2=BB or =C2=AB I suppose =C2=BB? It is an honest question and not a rhetoric one. = :-) Well, how is this bug report actionable? Other said, what is missing as concrete information for closing. >From my understanding of your feedback, the current answer to =C2=AB Is it still an issue? =C2=BB seems =C2=AB no =C2=BB. It does not mean that a bug= is not around =E2=80=93 so many bugs are around ;-) =E2=80=93 but it means that th= is bug is not a blocking issue, again from my understanding. Could you confirm that the bug is appearing for you? Else, let close it and reopen once the bug appears. WDYT? Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 23 05:29:48 2022 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2022 09:29:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o4J9o-0006k5-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:29:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:40650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o4J9k-0006jL-8v for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:29:45 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id j5-20020a05600c1c0500b0039c5dbbfa48so1140965wms.5 for <36924@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 02:29:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Udk+glz/YjasppjlspcBS/lxTw7xfuoLEQoacZyUUU=; b=dBGcwqbAgcEQoPvoDm0tIPAttJnnheYOKWsG9nYf2GxJSNvS+98nRr47gTHQh/50mX PAfCTxnZHEU/dT1H0jDO0TOHD5Tg3LEeqkw4oQWG5CtjqVAeYRBeOATHSYgAZfHEotOV vjF/b1mYg2RQhXeKyz+u1JhvpYgmpfrE+BjV9a4wcYb0AhFUxlm/O+YyEvEifNunXpIx 2AicIzxUyM8XSl06vIne6U2q3M91nsShk5yPTcKI+vZJnumhjbsY29d7Xtlg7qIyG5dd miV9ZacSJrjwVVOIaA0/nrZJy1wVToLbUopAKnPddX3WP+a1ouDLW+SUArG07Bnzu31A BjaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Udk+glz/YjasppjlspcBS/lxTw7xfuoLEQoacZyUUU=; b=G0w+lbF9DEKaHMKe/wmL8njfodqrjACWi+R/yd3nDErMwaNoHY5jz5alzNajXIRYOr UWy290S+qs+kh+FBEnguY4C1IobralSoxUiwI0YHYf7GWZWAgHKGImvspk5UMzUfmaPQ f6IJfFHdLInZSFD12etFrlHZ4Yed4vqYOT3zn5R8j8g+apqaLq9WpZXaqA/o4vacp7v3 tiXFvg+nnY06AwrxzReW/OhijlDiYKszOzZdfpOiBIsAx96MPvXO7nXDgwB6bOD/KxPV goziP3KPuuSjFVFNtHY17gAfpmNOR3F5DJ3LtVfB62RtD955jqDalV2DNfBe9k5zJYAg lYkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8dItn7NAZ5oSa+6rW/6qvf5rvau4mETWB3vPZvtgmh4hA4KfqD SErFHybBMnl4Zl16FKx0MVqByg57WLY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1usFUqIVbYwGeY9/r8bE71tRcQQ5eVGMqreH/F2EBt78LHYKWPW9+4yYstXuz6rrG2FBxWKdA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3588:b0:39c:87f1:b31 with SMTP id p8-20020a05600c358800b0039c87f10b31mr3121514wmq.4.1655976578715; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 02:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lili ([147.99.27.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c17-20020a05600c0ad100b003973ea7e725sm3274653wmr.0.2022.06.23.02.29.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Jun 2022 02:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun To: Liliana Marie Prikler Subject: Re: bug#36924: GDM, GNOME Shell, etc. break when there are stale caches References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> <95cef7888b04a157f3ceb0ef40904f88a02c250b.camel@gmail.com> <86wngkwc40.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:26:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86wngkwc40.fsf@gmail.com> (zimoun's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:14:07 +0100") Message-ID: <86edzf91e1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: Ricardo Wurmus , 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 23:14, zimoun wrote: > Hum, do we keep a report open based on =C2=AB maybe =C2=BB or =C2=AB we d= on=E2=80=99t know =C2=BB or > =C2=AB I suppose =C2=BB? It is an honest question and not a rhetoric one= . :-) > > Well, how is this bug report actionable? Other said, what is missing as > concrete information for closing. > > From my understanding of your feedback, the current answer to =C2=AB Is it > still an issue? =C2=BB seems =C2=AB no =C2=BB. It does not mean that a b= ug is not > around =E2=80=93 so many bugs are around ;-) =E2=80=93 but it means that = this bug is not > a blocking issue, again from my understanding. > > Could you confirm that the bug is appearing for you? Else, let close it > and reopen once the bug appears. WDYT? I am proposing to close if no objection. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) zimoun writes: > Hi, > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 23:14, zimoun wrote: > >> Hum, do we keep a report open based on =C2=AB maybe =C2=BB or =C2=AB we = don=E2=80=99t know =C2=BB or >> =C2=AB I suppose =C2=BB? It is an honest question and not a rhetoric on= e. :-) >> >> Well, how is this bug report actionable? Other said, what is missing as >> concrete information for closing. >> >> From my understanding of your feedback, the current answer to =C2=AB Is = it >> still an issue? =C2=BB seems =C2=AB no =C2=BB. It does not mean that a = bug is not >> around =E2=80=93 so many bugs are around ;-) =E2=80=93 but it means that= this bug is not >> a blocking issue, again from my understanding. >> >> Could you confirm that the bug is appearing for you? Else, let close it >> and reopen once the bug appears. WDYT? > > I am proposing to close if no objection. 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Content preview: Hi there After removing `gdm login` using a transformer and forget to modify/amend it into build-custom-services i break my system : (define-public %dm/system-services (append (build-custom-services identity) (modify-services %desktop-services (delete gdm-service-type)))) Content analysis details: (3.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [136.143.188.54 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. 3.0 AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS Multiple periods in From user name X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi there After removing `gdm login` using a transformer and forget to modify/amend it into build-custom-services i break my system : (define-public %dm/system-services (append (build-custom-services identity) (modify-services %desktop-services (delete gdm-service-type)))) My gnome crash, and when i even when i try to roll-back, it was impossible to login, my screen freeze at login/password, just before gnome start. Error in message : ul 4 17:44:11 localhost elogind[427]: New session c1 of user gdm. Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost gdm-session-worker: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost gdm: Gdm: GdmDisplay: Session never registered, failing Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost elogind[427]: Removed session c1. Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost gdm: Gdm: Child process -552 was already dead. Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost gdm: Gdm: GdmDisplay: Session never registered, failing Jul 4 17:44:11 localhost gdm: Gdm: Child process -552 was already dead. 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Therefore, after some months without an objection, I am closing this old bug#36924 [1]. If I am missing a point, feel free to reopen. 1: Cheers, simon From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 08 12:05:03 2022 Received: (at 36924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2022 16:05:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ohCJy-0007WL-Lp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 12:05:03 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f67.google.com ([209.85.218.67]:34576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ohCJv-0007Vl-Ij for 36924@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 12:05:01 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f67.google.com with SMTP id ot12so17076081ejb.1 for <36924@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9z+OGJvs4/bXqs8aZr5i4qaBQ2EvS/22RVji+l7QaGM=; b=a1adeN/m8CM2Cof21uOjTx78nWq/ljukRIUBbKEj8gIV0I52LpdXH86s+JPxXl6tJD 4k81piYcqB7kjoHSC6m+I7EVoQtyH8GHuufAARTJ07CP4hUnSePV0qpRIbrbrsEGcaqY WRjbWVMGvHIo1EZEgNmv2+3ZjnwFDaC8H1x3z6c7fpDsxvLeqIgYgRvDQQeWW/iloeMm 1Uquw81dWMwhWV50OqFSzfzwAD3AkIYbftLeNKhzrL+OJvAnLbt10x6NxiJg99ou6JHZ Bq/g/hdHL7QFNXPLXZbF/GsFBSUAu+gwZk9mCptnX7VxQp0HHqWEPhWOJS5Cy0/rThzp E9Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9z+OGJvs4/bXqs8aZr5i4qaBQ2EvS/22RVji+l7QaGM=; b=TKn9CkZVqp9kay7QRosJCfgDwZ8j6QgYfhTOnnTpuSVeqpwhinwpMlIdlhaJmRbgSE 2WxZE55OqRRTE9ceXqajCet8h/OZ8jBnjbJocieL0J4iCACACtTEPcf0bp9gbwYvjPOB 9nFXt+8xXNCEt8SY7MwJLSBbKTd6jLep2UPl74kpkNJvMbkV8k/lzNevCGthY2EkZl5U PRavGp6Q+B7Alnh9dWN3CGfXxZZfCvpurbXRdh1HFvKVh41P8M9RCWjYpasdPtrY/W9D RWPyd8Wd9OU9c+dqgWgGJLoJcCBlGFl2arDDooNBn1MnYfWqVhwJ9riGx/iW14Xt8qb4 kSWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0Q/HbTMl5ZLU8hiWxz0gCQEWnIzLPESeQBsX+opir4EmqMIcnA jgIyuQZ4LH7FV/2G0xhvOPE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7cwCTXPtUSOIcypHw8L4WjeqoZ6K5Ch2MyLLWCZNI9dzToJI4C7jXA3hqoDZbVE9rRA0uaCw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:4ac1:b0:780:3448:ff06 with SMTP id u1-20020a1709064ac100b007803448ff06mr8200499ejt.403.1665245093361; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lumine.fritz.box (85-127-52-93.dsl.dynamic.surfer.at. [85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c10-20020a1709060fca00b0073d5948855asm688695ejk.1.2022.10.08.09.04.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 08 Oct 2022 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1fb34b4a5ca2b04d51eaa24922f33e91415ac4a2.camel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bug#36924: GDM, GNOME Shell, etc. break when there are stale caches From: Liliana Marie Prikler To: zimoun , Ricardo Wurmus Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2022 18:04:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86mta6s76w.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87tvawzlvq.fsf@elephly.net> <867d8k29hi.fsf@gmail.com> <95cef7888b04a157f3ceb0ef40904f88a02c250b.camel@gmail.com> <86wngkwc40.fsf@gmail.com> <86edzf91e1.fsf@gmail.com> <87o7yjbskq.fsf@elephly.net> <86mta6s76w.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36924 Cc: 36924@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Am Samstag, dem 08.10.2022 um 16:47 +0200 schrieb zimoun: > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 12:07, Ricardo Wurmus > wrote: >=20 > > > I am proposing to close if no objection. > >=20 > > I agree because it is not actionable as it is now. >=20 > Therefore, after some months without an objection, I am closing this > old bug#36924 [1].=C2=A0 If I am missing a point, feel free to reopen. The GDM one in fact got fixed by moving the cache to a tmpfs. 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If I am missing a point, feel free to reopen. > > 1: Seems your closing didn't work, so I'm retrying here. 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