From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:47:21 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3639: 23.0.95; defcustom docstring ':link' ':tag' NAME and/or LABEL? Reply-To: MON KEY , 3639@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: MON KEY Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 3639 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124561690213210 (code B ref -1); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:50:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 21 Jun 2009 20:41:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5LKfYuN013191 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:41:36 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:35150) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MITr4-0005Zy-Bk for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:41:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MITr1-0001W1-SC for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:41:34 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.217.211]:62885) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MITr1-0001VZ-K1 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:41:31 -0400 Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so4285321gxk.18 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.27.12 with SMTP id e12mr9883670ybj.282.1245616888165; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slaptop.derbycityprints.com (mobile-166-214-128-160.mycingular.net [166.214.128.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm670705ywi.23.2009.06.21.13.41.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:23 -0400 Message-Id: <878wjln1b4.fsf@sandpframing.com> From: MON KEY To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. The docstring for defcustom's keyword `:link' states: "You can specify the text to use in the customization buffer by adding `:tag NAME' after the first element of the LINK-DATA; for example, (info-link :tag "foo" "(emacs)Top") makes a link to the Emacs manual which appears in the buffer as `foo'." Shortly thereafter a description of defcustom's keyword `:tag' states: ":tag LABEL Use LABEL, a string, instead of the item's name, to label the item in customization menus and buffers." If these two uses of 'tag' have identical context, then the `:tag NAME' descriptor of the `:link' section should clarify this and/or change 'NAME' -> 'LABEL'. If the context of 'tag' is mutually exclusive then _that_ should be clarified. As presented, it is not clear if `:tag' has different meanings within defcustom forms according to where it occurs. s_P ;;; ============================== In GNU Emacs 23.0.95.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2009-06-19 on slaptop Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: Recent messages: From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 26 17:59:30 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2010 22:59:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZuNe-0006Wg-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:59:30 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZuNc-0006Wa-Ri for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:59:29 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZuNZ-0005iV-10; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:59:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19295.29644.873399.225898@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:59:24 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: green X-Ran: &(VbNfmJXZ;[J{*G3aTbd+b!ecJ2-$GFxDMQQe0OAuT_7w/9GVc(bITh-`eB%[Y;QuxJkO X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) merge 3598 3599 severity 3625 wishlist tags 3634 moreinfo severity 3639 minor unmerge 3728 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 11:22:15 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 15:22:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgems-0002oO-LZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:22:15 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgemq-0002oD-TL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:22:13 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgemg-00046P-1O for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:22:02 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:22:01 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #3639 X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qgemg-00046P-1O X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311088922.21088@ouNQy0f9gBnYVHo0ToeC+g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 3639 notabug close 3639 From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:47:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#3639: 23.0.95; defcustom docstring ':link' ':tag' NAME and/or LABEL? Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: MON KEY Cc: 3639@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 3639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3639.131048452911408 (code B ref 3639); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 3639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 15:28:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgetD-0002xr-KK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:28:48 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgetB-0002xX-VW for 3639@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:28:46 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qget0-0004Hg-Fo; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:28:34 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <878wjln1b4.fsf@sandpframing.com> (MON KEY's message of "Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:23 -0400") Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:21:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878wjln1b4.fsf@sandpframing.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Peter Gabriel's _Peter Gabriel 2_: "On The Air" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:3639@debbugs.gnu.org::o+4r65Ew+rDn/Rzk:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000DjGj X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:monkey@sandpframing.com::qqcQeg0ErQYbFSf4:00000000000000000000000000000000000001uXvd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qget0-0004Hg-Fo X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311089314.58561@qZyhMXrh2WvXs6+4k497cA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) MON KEY writes: > The docstring for defcustom's keyword `:link' states: > > "You can specify the text to use in the customization buffer by adding `:tag > NAME' after the first element of the LINK-DATA; for example, (info-link :tag > "foo" "(emacs)Top") makes a link to the Emacs manual which appears in the > buffer as `foo'." > > Shortly thereafter a description of defcustom's keyword `:tag' states: > > ":tag LABEL Use LABEL, a string, instead of the item's name, to label the item > in customization menus and buffers." > > If these two uses of 'tag' have identical context, then the `:tag NAME' > descriptor of the `:link' section should clarify this and/or change 'NAME' -> > 'LABEL'. > > If the context of 'tag' is mutually exclusive then _that_ should > be clarified. As presented, it is not clear if `:tag' has different meanings within defcustom forms according to where it occurs. The first talks about using :tag inside `info-link'. The second about using :tag in the `defcustom' top-level. It seems pretty clear to me, and I know next to nothing about `defcustom', so I think this doesn't need clarification. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:47:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#3639: 23.0.95; defcustom docstring ':link' ':tag' NAME and/or LABEL? Resent-From: MON KEY Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 3639@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 3639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3639.131075738121193 (code B ref 3639); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 3639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 19:16:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhns4-0005Vm-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:16:20 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhns1-0005VX-Np for 3639@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:16:18 -0400 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1329443iwn.3 for <3639@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.153.4 with SMTP id k4mr1253215icw.255.1310757372029; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.18.19 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <878wjln1b4.fsf@sandpframing.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:16:11 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9hQ2u-7usnL-9It-BgNYxSpOv3U Message-ID: From: MON KEY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: fied. As presented, it is not clear if `:tag' has different meanings within defcustom forms according to where it occurs. > >=C2=A0It seems pretty clear to me, > and I know next to nothing about `defcustom', so I think this doesn't > need clarification. > Thats a pathetic justification for closing this bug. If you know next to nothing about defcustom then maybe you are not the right person to make this decision! Maybe you've misunderstood the issue? Maybe your killing bugs for fun and profit? -- /s_P\