From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 24 21:27:27 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2019 01:27:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaF5-0005Et-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:27 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaF4-0005Em-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaF2-0005MS-GQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaEz-0008Rw-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:23 -0400 Received: from anteater.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.3]:1929) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaEy-0007Xb-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:20 -0400 X-Sender-Id: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340402C1B73 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hampton.hostforweb.net (100-96-87-96.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.87.96]) (Authenticated sender: tih5qno0ow) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 12F122C115F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:26:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net Received: from hampton.hostforweb.net ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [172.245.115.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:26:37 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: tih5qno0ow X-Cooperative-Minister: 0b97b6f262e58591_1561425997879_2120891647 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1561425997879:1167496893 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1561425997879 Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hfaE8-002TTu-P3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:26:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:26:26 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; @uref{} @url{} misusage? Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jmLaw60stSX/LlnWt3RBM810Tyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-AuthUser: yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 23.83.212.3 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) The three texi files auth.texi, cc-mode.texi, and tramp.texi in the doc/misc/ directory use this kind of markup: @uref{https://www.example.com/,,description} ...[1] This produces only "description", the url nor the link doesn't appear in the info file. Shouldn't it use a single "," not ",,"? [1] in tramp.texi @url is used instead in the @footnote{}. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 25 11:05:26 2019 Received: (at 36368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2019 15:05:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33196 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfn0b-0005pt-3f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfn0Z-0005pe-8q for 36368@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59475) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hfn0Q-0002Sn-VD; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:13 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1740 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hfn0F-0007l8-7C; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:04:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83y31pln8k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Katsumi Yamaoka In-reply-to: (message from Katsumi Yamaoka on Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:26:26 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#36368: 27.0.50; @uref{} @url{} misusage? References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36368 Cc: 36368@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:26:26 +0900 > From: Katsumi Yamaoka > > The three texi files auth.texi, cc-mode.texi, and tramp.texi in > the doc/misc/ directory use this kind of markup: > > @uref{https://www.example.com/,,description} ...[1] > > This produces only "description", the url nor the link doesn't > appear in the info file. Shouldn't it use a single "," not ",,"? Not necessarily. See the description in the node "@url Examples" of the Texinfo manual. If, after reading that, you agree that this is not a bug, please close it. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 25 19:21:38 2019 Received: (at 36368-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2019 23:21:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfuks-00036T-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:21:38 -0400 Received: from aye.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.6]:39123) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfuko-00036C-Gh for 36368-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:21:36 -0400 X-Sender-Id: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9A32C1B12; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hampton.hostforweb.net (100-96-87-96.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.87.96]) (Authenticated sender: tih5qno0ow) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BFEB82C2742; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:21:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net Received: from hampton.hostforweb.net ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [172.245.115.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:21:32 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: tih5qno0ow|x-authuser|yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: tih5qno0ow X-Trail-Vacuous: 5707b7df47047cd0_1561504892702_4113573315 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1561504892701:2512644802 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1561504892701 Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hfukd-007xDo-O4; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:21:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 08:21:20 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#36368: 27.0.50; @uref{} @url{} misusage? References: <83y31pln8k.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yAr3pucQ/DG9VJJGc5UowkFYTOQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-AuthUser: yamaoka@hampton.hostforweb.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36368-done Cc: 36368-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:04:59 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: [...] >> @uref{https://www.example.com/,,description} ...[1] >> This produces only "description", the url nor the link doesn't >> appear in the info file. Shouldn't it use a single "," not ",,"? > Not necessarily. See the description in the node "@url Examples" of > the Texinfo manual. > If, after reading that, you agree that this is not a bug, please close > it. Ok, it's not a bug and I'm closing this. Why I suspected it not to be what the author wanted to do (since those urls will never appear in at least info files) is that such expressions are just a few cases in the texi files existing in the doc/ directory. Overwhelming numbers of @uref, @url, and @indicateurl forms show urls in info files: 175+94+8 @uref{url} @url{url} @indicateurl{url} 196+20 @uref{url,desc} @url{url,desc} 7+3 @uref{url,,desc} @url{url,,desc} Regards, ;; I found it while translating the recent changes in auth.texi ;; into Japanese in gnus-doc-ja. Though auth-source.el is not ;; a part of Gnus, I've been still keeping to maitain the files ;; that used to be in the Gnus repo that was separated from Emacs. 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