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([2a00:f41:18eb:f81c:941:bfb9:4be6:464a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y15sm2796110lfg.43.2019.06.19.10.50.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Urban Subject: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description To: Bug GNU Emacs Message-ID: <75a98727-b72d-962c-a4f3-49641cf5c713@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:50:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::12a X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello, on MS Windows (official build) variable `cannot-suspend' has value `nil', while according to this thread on help-gnu-emacs: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-0/msg00259.html probably should have value `t'. Although there is a line in documentation of suspend-emacs ``If `cannot-suspend' is non-nil, or if the system doesn't support job control, run a subshell instead.'', so it suppose to work even with `nil' and it does for me (both 26.2 and emacs-27.0.50-snapshot-2019-06-08-i686), but as Ó. Fuentes wrote in the thread above: > I tried C-z on MSWindows and it does not run a subshell. The console > blinks but nothing else happens. I'm using a development version, > though. So maybe set it to `t' for MS Windows to be sure it'll work? And the second part, as I wrote in mentioned thread: > But also, maybe a line about this in the Emacs manual? I mean if we > have `%emacs' in the manual, so why not a line about times when there > is no job control, which leads to subshell and for example `exit' as > a way out back to Emacs. Maybe just putting "or `exit'" next to > `%emacs' would be sufficient (I'm just guessing here). S. U. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 30 05:07:04 2021 Received: (at 36296) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2021 10:07:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53699 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5n9h-0002jy-5Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:07:03 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5n9e-0002ji-MW for 36296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:07:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FDi0qVPVn/IRPPyrQz4JtpOb+YDJ4w/0W/c0YggWtEo=; b=ekz60Qv7JY/zkrx0Sq7rqPFkNo 5xqU1yqOGt8kPuq/3fENpIvMrXZYMYdgagIaYU4PVHj+t4MGhOpamPJCbpe7CUmi1QbZ/e/lo/uFe J4b21pMVobZ/2MGtkrQXy8v6J+9yEt+3J/IR5RRHHCqRI8cs1QEqcUqUSP2wbsftfzk4=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l5n9O-00073j-BK; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:06:52 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Sebastian Urban Subject: Re: bug#36296: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description References: <75a98727-b72d-962c-a4f3-49641cf5c713@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Live in Eindhoven (1980)_: "Dark Companion" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:06:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <75a98727-b72d-962c-a4f3-49641cf5c713@gmail.com> (Sebastian Urban's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:50:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0ruwxfz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Sebastian Urban writes: > on MS Windows (official build) variable `cannot-suspend' has value > `nil', while according to this thread on help-gnu-emacs: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-0/msg00259.html [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36296 Cc: 36296@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sebastian Urban writes: > on MS Windows (official build) variable `cannot-suspend' has value > `nil', while according to this thread on help-gnu-emacs: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-0/msg00259.html > probably should have value `t'. PROBLEMS says: *** C-z just refreshes the screen instead of suspending Emacs. You are probably using a shell that doesn't support job control, even though the system itself is capable of it. Either use a different shell, or set the variable 'cannot-suspend' to a non-nil value. -------- I'm not very familiar with how this works under Windows, but from the text there, it sounds like it depends on the shell, so Emacs can't really default the variable to t just based on the OS? Or is this always the case on Windows (that `C-z' doesn't work?) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 30 05:52:31 2021 Received: (at 36296) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2021 10:52:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nrj-0005vk-Md for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:52:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50088) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nrg-0005vX-TB for 36296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:52:30 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nrb-0000kw-EO; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:52:23 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4651 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nra-0006HW-Ec; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:52:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 12:52:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83wnvu8znn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87k0ruwxfz.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:06:40 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#36296: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description References: <75a98727-b72d-962c-a4f3-49641cf5c713@gmail.com> <87k0ruwxfz.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36296 Cc: mrsebastianurban@gmail.com, 36296@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:06:40 +0100 > Cc: 36296@debbugs.gnu.org > > Sebastian Urban writes: > > > on MS Windows (official build) variable `cannot-suspend' has value > > `nil', while according to this thread on help-gnu-emacs: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-0/msg00259.html > > probably should have value `t'. > > PROBLEMS says: > > *** C-z just refreshes the screen instead of suspending Emacs. > > You are probably using a shell that doesn't support job control, even > though the system itself is capable of it. Either use a different shell, > or set the variable 'cannot-suspend' to a non-nil value. > > -------- > > I'm not very familiar with how this works under Windows, but from the > text there, it sounds like it depends on the shell, so Emacs can't > really default the variable to t just based on the OS? Or is this > always the case on Windows (that `C-z' doesn't work?) IMNSHO, this is a subtle bug on MS-Windows that needs to be investigated and fixed; the code looked okay to me last time I looked. I don't have time to work on it, and the feature is very unimportant on MS-Windows, so volunteers and patches are welcome, but documenting this as a "feature" is IMO not TRT. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 31 02:25:48 2021 Received: (at 36296) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2021 07:25:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56292 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l677D-0006xv-T4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 02:25:48 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35430) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l677C-0006xi-8k for 36296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 02:25:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4a1gn0UzabRqvPFbXKmarO3lKmoXT6PKpwR7eZ53If0=; b=JuVXd3sqHmYGcY/4InnrgevyyN 5SX7lawdpUzMMGZ05w24BkAop+04ncIDhJi9JQqD5b3yNgDLqvWtvdv9Y9+nnT2PFwSGCL+fEvuin f/83M6HfqKxmflunLKz17gWJXkkxzHdLjsXkSu5wpwRU451+ByzKr8ac95SWb9yH/LtE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6774-0002hs-1t; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 08:25:40 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#36296: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description References: <75a98727-b72d-962c-a4f3-49641cf5c713@gmail.com> <87k0ruwxfz.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnvu8znn.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJFBMVEUCAwQWLiguZUk1 iV1KlnNorJaLs6eQx7es2Mrb8OR9foD///93P9TBAAAAAWJLR0QLH9fEwAAAAAd0SU1FB+UBHwcA Fk7c7TwAAAGXSURBVDjLjZO9doIwGIaDW50Ap3ZSYgfGErgAEU/3SsCxU1svQGF0qYYb4Bi2unmX zRd+I3iOGXl4877fTxCqj2ZaxA2oONF3krLmOzJMfB8ENWCD4Ct5EFg1AItHgFaDKBlQrASIk1Pa MwcA/yvAIBVIbsCsUkB5LGuB3nqowDAdLEEkTboezqRVKHEn1jDApuM2cVsPzcCWMweBLIN3FRgT qWBdhWEIYC096ZG2wOb8jWDLw2UTAejSgF+2vtgFl9SAoSnSZmhUINsnmPgrr4mboy3/1M6z64WI JXn9aCr/GxcvBbpy7sP2LNd1IWj6dEAZGhdX38VuEHp13yvwfLDXoAi9tfAogbxqO7UX4EFDuqpS 6WA+ypG9cOWGemWB0EQRV9ORacwJ9DCg7+o8NCOQoEnVvgJSgmAX3yhwrYiZqqhATHepMijxoORk abjfdAfVKGi82bOM9xVx+ptnXFWUi8hO2R2QJfkQEI06qh4lgPllP8c+iAAk5x6QPee8fxVMSWTq K2gJeNYHKVzF2T0waA5X8X/c7Q0PlpjslwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMS0zMVQw NzowMDoyMiswMDowMJltWHMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDEtMzFUMDc6MDA6MjIr MDA6MDDoMODPAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Rothko's _A Negative For Francis_: "Culzean" Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 08:25:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wnvu8znn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Jan 2021 12:52:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87im7dva8f.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > IMNSHO, this is a subtle bug on MS-Windows that needs to be > investigated and fixed; the code looked okay to me last time I looked. > I don't have time to work on it, and the feature is very unimpo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36296 Cc: mrsebastianurban@gmail.com, 36296@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > IMNSHO, this is a subtle bug on MS-Windows that needs to be > investigated and fixed; the code looked okay to me last time I looked. > I don't have time to work on it, and the feature is very unimportant > on MS-Windows, so volunteers and patches are welcome, but documenting > this as a "feature" is IMO not TRT. OK, I'll just leave this bug report open. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no